airplanes and leaking

[AloeIshus]

I've been vaping for about a year now, currently using Halo tanks. Nothing I've used is proof against pressure changes on airplanes. If I have a filled (quarter, half, full) tank, it's *gonna* leak.

That said, I like my Halo, and I like tanks too much to switch to anything else. Just wish they had a valve you could close to seal it for flying. Anything like that out there?

 

[OSUkhoas]

This happened to my nautilus and my pro tank 3 on the plane. But not my mini pro tank 2 or kayfun. Thought it was weird, may just be how some are designed or placed in said bag. Interested to hear some veterans on this subject.

 

[Whitewolf2014]

I don't fly but I think I remember reading on another post about this. Someone suggested using an empty air tight pill bottle or some sort of container big enough to put your tanks in, it helped some or worked pretty good. Like I said I have no first hand knowledge so. I'm sure someone will have some info about it.. good luck and welcome to ecf AloeIshus.

 

[Rossum]

In principle, top-coil tanks like a Halo Trition or a Genny shouldn't leak with pressure changes if kept upgright. Conversely, bottom-coil tanks like Protanks and Kayfuns, etc shouldn't leak with pressure changes if kept upside-down.

 

[AloeIshus]

Someone suggested using an empty air tight pill bottle or some sort of container big enough to put your tanks in, it helped some or worked pretty good.

That is a great idea, thanks Whitewolf! I'm flying tomorrow, I'll give it a go and report back.

As an aside, emptying and cleaning before the flight, and refilling after the flight (which is what I've been doing) isn't a trivial operation when you have to do it a lot--I lose some liquid in the process each time, and that can mount up.

 

[AloeIshus]

In principle, top-coil tanks like a Halo Trition or a Genny shouldn't leak with pressure changes if kept upgright. Conversely, bottom-coil tanks like Protanks and Kayfuns, etc shouldn't leak with pressure changes if kept upside-down.

It turns out it's virtually impossible for me to be certain the tanks stay right-side-up. Carry-on baggage gets laid down/schlepped around too much.

 

[Relaxed99]

Putting tanks in a sealed/water proof container like Whitewolf2014 suggested is a great idea. I have to fly in a couple of months so will keep that in mind.

Has anyone ever flown with prefilled carts and had trouble with those leaking?

 

[Completely Average]

I've been vaping for about a year now, currently using Halo tanks. Nothing I've used is proof against pressure changes on airplanes. If I have a filled (quarter, half, full) tank, it's *gonna* leak.

That said, I like my Halo, and I like tanks too much to switch to anything else. Just wish they had a valve you could close to seal it for flying. Anything like that out there?

You don't want a valve that closes, you want one that opens. The leaking is caused by a drop in pressure outside the tank while the pressure inside the tank remains the same. You want to reduce that pressure differential and maintain a slight vacuum within the tank.

The easiest way I've found to prevent leaking is to remove the topper from the battery, carefully explain to the person sitting next to you who now looks very nervous that it's your ecig and you're just trying to prevent it from leaking, and then draw on it about every 15 seconds or so as you gain altitude. As long as you continue to suck the excess pressure buildup out of the tank it will not leak.

Assuming that you put the minds of the people around you at ease that you are not vaping (You removed the battery) and are not doing anything "strange", there should be no problem.


You only have to worry about it while climbing in altitude. At steady flight nothing is changing and when going down it will let in air by itself just like when you finish taking a draw.

 

[Tejcek]

I know cartos and kanger types flood, kayfun leaks a bit. Get an Rba and you should be fine. I usually ninja vape on the reo and just squank when I need to wet the wick

 

[Completely Average]

In principle, top-coil tanks like a Halo Trition or a Genny shouldn't leak with pressure changes if kept upgright.

Yes they will. Just because they are top coil doesn't mean they still don't rely on a pressure differential to stay sealed. If they didn't then every time I took a puff off my Halo while lying on my back I would end up with a mouth full of juice. It's going to draw juice through the wick just like you were sucking on it and all of that excess juice is going to flow out the chimney either out the mouthpiece or through the bottom to the 808 connector.

Someone suggested using an empty air tight pill bottle or some sort of container big enough to put your tanks in, it helped some or worked pretty good.

That may work depending on where you're flying from and to.

For instance, if you're flying from Miami to Los Angeles then you're at sea level at both locations. Air pressure will be equal when you open the lid.

However, if you're flying from Miami into Aspen then you're looking at an almost 8,000 foot change in altitude. The second you open that lid the tank is going to spew.

It will work fine provided the altitude of your point of departure and destination are relatively close to each other. Also, keep in mind that the higher in altitude you go the faster the air pressure drops per 100 feet. Sea level to 1000 feet won't cause any leaking at all. 14,000 to 14,265 feet can cause leaking (Speaking from experience).

 

[AK Maniak]

Considering 99% of airlines won't let you actually vape while inside the plane you can always just empty your tank before flying. I flew with my Nautilus on top of my provari last week for the first time and it wasn't until I landed that I realized there was 5ml of lemonade juice that was no longer in my tank. Back pack still smells quite strongly.

 

[AloeIshus]

Considering 99% of airlines won't let you actually vape while inside the plane you can always just empty your tank before flying. I flew with my Nautilus on top of my provari last week for the first time and it wasn't until I landed that I realized there was 5ml of lemonade juice that was no longer in my tank. Back pack still smells quite strongly.

Like I said, my current fix, arrived at through trial and error (and if fixes the problem completely), is to empty and clean the tank before a flight, then refill it after landing. Works like a champ. It's just not the *best* solution, which would be to not have to worry about the pressure differential at all. It's just time consuming and a little expensive.

This isn't beyond science. It's just not risen to a level where it impacts sales yet.

I would personally spend more money on somebody's contraption that you could haul onboard any which-a-ways and still fee confident that the inside of your baggie wouldn't be gummed up and useless at the end of the flight.

 

[Relaxed99]

Maybe empty all tanks and fly with a cig-alike with a prefilled cart or get yourself a disposable just to get you by?

Anybody ever had a prefilled cart or disposable leak?

 

[AloeIshus]

Maybe empty all tanks and fly with a cig-alike with a prefilled cart or get yourself a disposable just to get you by?

Anybody ever had a prefilled cart or disposable leak?

I use patches to get me by onboard; I don't need to vape while flying. I just want to immediately get to it by the time I get to the hotel room without going through a miniature japanese tea ceremony to make it work.

Again, I'll try the enclosed pill container tomorrow. The rigid space should keep the pressure normal. 9 times out of 10 I'm going to someplace that had at least a fairly comparable altitude to that which I left.

 

[Mike Collier]

i have been vaping 11 weeks, and was on an airplane 3 weeks ago. the pressure made it drain, i was surprised, and saddened by this. i also wish there was something out there to lock in the juice

 

[tj99959]

I put my toppers in small jewelry sized ziplock bags when I fly. Can't vape on the plane anyway ........ unless you don't mind paying a $2,000 fine. ($3.000 if in the head)

 

[Paradicio]

Anyone try cigalikes on a plane? Do those leak? I'm flying soon and unfortunately won't be in a position where I'll be able to empty and refill tanks before takeoff and after landing.

 

[jensy]

Something for me to consider as I am flying next week . I think the whole empty your tank before is probably best.

 

[pokemom]

I fly about every six weeks. Always within the continental US. I have had most every "inexpensive" clearomizer on a plane at some time. Original Vivi Novas to C4s to PT3s and everything in between. They have ALL leaked on me. Now, I try to run my tanks down before I fly, wrap the tank in paper towels and put them in a Ziploc bag separate from the batteries (I'm sick of cleaning batteries). I bought a bunch of White Cloud Flings to carry on me during flights (and in airports) for those moments when possibly breaking federal regulations seems like an okay idea.


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[Bunnykiller]

If you are keeping a tank loaded with liquid and flying with it, place the tank in an airtight container, hard sides and lid ( baby food jar). The pressure in the jar will remain "constant" while the cabin pressure changes during ascent/decent. If you do arrive at your destination and the altitude is higher than what you left from, you may have a bit of leaking when the container is opened. If the tank is bottom coiled, invert the tank to get the fluid away from the wick and open the container. If the tank is top coiled, orientate the tank to get the fluid towards the bottom of the tank ( away from hole where wick enters the airtube) and open container. This will keep leakage and juice loss to a minimum.