Alien Clapton

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have2p

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Hey guys, this is my first post to this site. I've followed a lot of threads and you guys are always so helpful to the community with your advice and sharing ideas. I figured I should try to give back the little bit of knowledge I've obtained in my recent endeavors of coil buildings to try to help out like you have for me.
This will be my own tips and tricks for what helped ME build alien Claptons. A slight disclaimer: I am fairly new to the whole vaping scene, once I started building my own coils I was hooked. I am an engineer by trade, I had absolutely no problems with any coil I tried to build until I came across the alien clapton. I've watched every youtube tutorial on it and read every guide, the following is my interpretation on what helped me build them and I hope it can help someone else. This will not be a step-by-step guide, it is assuming you understand the basic concept and just need some tips.

The gear:

  • The first thing that made a major difference was getting a micro chuck for my drill. All my drills have fairly large chucks, requiring me to bend the ends of my wire to keep it in place. I picked up a micro chuck from amazon and haven't looked back since. It has 4 jaws instead of 3, so you can keep your wires flat. It also holds from 0" - 1/32", eliminating the need for bending your ends. I picked mine up from amazon. This is what it looks like:
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  • The second thing that helped was using GOOD swivels. I already had a collection as I fish in my free time, the ones that worked the best for me were the P-Line High Speed Rollers. It's a chain of swivels, and they perform the best of any I tried. I attach them together with some duo-lock snaps. I picked mine up from a local Sportsman Warehouse but you can also find them in most tackle shops or online. This is what they look like:
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  • Nichrome. Once I started using Nichrome as the de-cored clapton my life became easier. Not only does it look MUCH better (it has smaller gaps and is shiny) it seems quite a bit easier to work with.
  • Paperclips. I see a lot of people suggesting using tape to keep your 3 core wires straight, personally I have had the most success with a paperclip or two. I pull the middle tab out slightly and attach it to the core wires on the opposite side for more tension. If you get the right amount of tension on your paperclip you won't need to move it down the wire, it will slide down on its own as you wrap.
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  • By far the biggest factor in making a decent alien that I have noticed is the spacing of the de-cored wire. If you stretch it too far it will bunch up your 3 core wires and you will have to scrap your project. If you don't stretch it enough it won't bunch up the core wires but it will not lay flat on them, it will have an extra angle and make it into a triangle. I have found it is better to under stretch your clapton than over stretch it. You can deal with an under-stretched clapton by either stretching it more or just apply more pressure to the wire as you wrap it around the core (my personal choice).
  • Speed of your drill is affected by the quality of your materials and the steadiness of your hand. If all your wires are straight and your de-cored clapton is stretched and spaced evenly, you can go fairly quickly with your drill once you do your initial wraps. This assumes you are holding your de-cored wire with a steady hand without changing the pressure applied and moving it at an even pace down your core wires while you wrap. Personally I have to go a bit quicker than I see in video tutorials because the slower I go the more chance I have at messing up due to impatience.
I think that wraps up my tips for making an Alien Clapton. I am by no means an expert and I'm sure there are much better advice others can give on the subject, I just wanted to share what worked for me personally with the hopes that it can benefit any others into saving some wire.
Here is a coil I just made with 26g kanthal wrapped in 36g nichrome, it's not going to win any awards but with my setup I managed to knock it out in around 13 minutes start to finish and I didn't pull any hair out from frustration:
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If you have any of your own tips/tricks to share with me I am always eager to learn new and better ways.
 
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SLIPPY_EEL

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how many core wires are you attaching to your swivels? I hate aliens but the best experiences I have had with them are when I tape all 3 cores together and only using one wire as attachment point onto the swivel. (cutting the 2 other wires shorter.)

tis the way i do it. Although when i first started doing them i didnt use any swivels :p
 
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have2p

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how many core wires are you attaching to your swivels? I hate aliens but the best experiences I have had with them are when I tape all 3 cores together and only using one wire as attachment point onto the swivel. (cutting the 2 other wires shorter.)

Interesting, I've been using all 3. I'll give 1 a shot, thanks!
 

have2p

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My question is.. All tutorials I've seen have been for 3x26 gauge as the cores. I want to do one with only 2 cores and at 28 gauge. Would I still do the initial de-cored clapton on a piece of 26 gauge? or should I do it on a piece of 28 gauge? Thanks.

I'm not sure how that would look. I imagine how the alien gets its "look" is due to every other spiral of the de-cored Clapton wrapping around the outside of the 3 core wires, while the inside spiral is stretched around the middle creating the wave look. If you're only using two core wires there is no space between them to create such an effect... But I could very well be wrong. The only way I can imagine it looking different from a fused Clapton is if you unwrap a higher gauge Clapton for tighter spirals... I'll have to play around and see how it turns out
 

have2p

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My question is.. All tutorials I've seen have been for 3x26 gauge as the cores. I want to do one with only 2 cores and at 28 gauge. Would I still do the initial de-cored clapton on a piece of 26 gauge? or should I do it on a piece of 28 gauge? Thanks.
So I just tried a 36 on 30 Clapton, de-cored and put on 2x28. It worked, had a nice tiny wave, but it looked close enough to a fused Clapton that I don't think it is worth the extra effort. I tried both the 26 and 28 gauges with a 36 de-core and neither really worked. Slapped a 30 gauge in between both the two cores and it made an alien. Since I have all my wire out I just put 38 gauge Nichrome on two 28 gauge kanthal and fused them, I like it.
 

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    So I just tried a 36 on 30 Clapton, de-cored and put on 2x28. It worked, had a nice tiny wave, but it looked close enough to a fused Clapton that I don't think it is worth the extra effort. I tried both the 26 and 28 gauges with a 36 de-core and neither really worked. Slapped a 30 gauge in between both the two cores and it made an alien. Since I have all my wire out I just put 38 gauge Nichrome on two 28 gauge kanthal and fused them, I like it.

    It works just fine with claptoning the 28 gauge for only two cores. Got a sexy wave and errathing.
     

    Lucas Rong

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    When I first started doing aliens keeping the 3 wires parallel was the hardest part. The paper clip trick worked best for me. Funny enough when I did a framed staple alien it was much easier to keep everything straightView attachment 545092
    Oh wow never thought of that, I knew fraples is way easier than claptoning 3 core wires. Maybe I will try it next time! Keeping 3 wires parallel was always the struggle, had to pinch the wire every quarter of an inch. Thanks for the inspiration.
     

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    Do you have a pic? Did you use a 36 and if so how much did you stretch it?

    I don't have a pic but I stretched it a little less than you would for 3 cores. Try under stretching vs potentially over stretching because you can always start your alien and if it's not stretched enough you can make the adjustment.
     
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