All my mods part1

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badkolo

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me too, it works so well that i have no need to build anythiing, but i want this genesis, i know hes right about the stainless mesh, after its oxidized, burnt with a lighter , it will give you true taste through and through but the only thing is it does need to burnt and prepped like he said or the taste will be off until it breaks in, i have used ss mesh years ago and hes right, also there are a few vaporizers out there that use stainless messh for liquid vaping , while a fine mesh is needed for the genesis, like zoid said for other mods it doesnt need to be fine mesh.

im gonna need to read his directions to make a genesis many times becuase that cork thing confuses me. im gonna need br to guide me step by step but alas he is napping again, basically telling me to f off.
 
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OK, am I being thick here? How come the two silver power wires running through the plastic tube don't short out when the tube is full of liquid?

The liquid isn't terribly conductive. The current prefers to flow through the atty than through the liquid, path of least resistance. I'll dip some probes in some juice tomorrow, but PG itself isn't conductive.
 

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OK, am I being thick here? How come the two silver power wires running through the plastic tube don't short out when the tube is full of liquid?

I wonder if you could go around for this type of design:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/129955-my-new-brass-copper-mod.html
I would love to see more steampunk styling. Nice etched glass and polished brass.

And, of course, I cannot post in this thread without expressing my awe to these amazing creations!
 

stouchon

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Hello, I am enjoying reading this thread. It is nice to see the creations and enthusiasm. I can't wait to see what others do with your ideas.

I am still wondering what on earth all the stuff is on the pipe in your avatar picture. I have been wanting to make a pipe mod for a while now, just don't have all the tools I would like to get it done.

Eagerly awaiting more.


Thanks,
ST
 

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OK, am I being thick here? How come the two silver power wires running through the plastic tube don't short out when the tube is full of liquid?

I wouldnt expse the positive or the negative wires to any fluid. I would isolate thm within thier own tubes. The tubes dont need to be large, just big enough to have the wires. Thats what i would do, and it looks like he did this also. I doubt he would let the insulation around the wire be exposed to fluid, and it doesnt look like he does either.

see here?

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the two threaded rods are the positive and negative 'wires'. But, if you look closer youll notice that each is shielded from the fluid with plastic/acrylic/glass/or w/e cover. there is a comressive load placed on the unit through thewashers/bolts at one en of the unit. That compressive load is what keeps it in place.

plus nothing is saying that the positive and negative need to travel up through the fluid area. you can have the wires run up the side of the tank. Or you can find other unique ways to hide the wires, while keeping them safe.
 
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raidy

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Liquid an wire contact, no prolem

A atty has typical ~ 3 Ohms
A qcm liquid has typica 1-2 Million times more resistance ~4-12Million-Ohms !!!
So it is absolutly no problem if the liquid comes in contact with a wire.
But a additional isolation is never a failure, because ist stops any chemical reaction between liquid an metal. But the "cork atty" is for test, not for smoking years.

I forgett to write, that you have to make a small (1-2mm) hole in the mouthpiece (close to the atty) so that air comes in, if you inhale.
 

Willriker

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Liquid an wire contact, no prolem

A atty has typical ~ 3 Ohms
A qcm liquid has typica 1-2 Million times more resistance ~4-12Million-Ohms !!!
So it is absolutly no problem if the liquid comes in contact with a wire.
But a additional isolation is never a failure, because ist stops any chemical reaction between liquid an metal. But the "cork atty" is for test, not for smoking years.

I forgett to write, that you have to make a small (1-2mm) hole in the mouthpiece (close to the atty) so that air comes in, if you inhale.

You are not worried about an electrolysis reaction? Like this:
How to Make Oxygen and Hydrogen from Water Using Electrolysis - wikiHow

Electrolysis uses DC current to generate a 'non-spontaneous' reaction.

A positive and a negative wire in a fluid can cause a reaction. In water, this will produce hydrogen and oxygen. This is harmless. But, I dont know how the fluids we are working with would behave in this situation. It could produce a compound that we do not want to inhale.

Also, as you mentioned, there is also the worry of how the metal would react due to prolonged exposure to the fluids. It could rust, or cause an entirely differant reaction. I dont know.

We all want to produce a safe product. And, at this time, I do not think it would be wise to say that there is no issue with charged wires coming in contact with e-fluid. I really would recommend that people should isolate the wires from the fluid as much as possible.

That being said, i was also concerned about shorting out. But, i see that would not be an issue. Thank you for clearing up that concern.
 
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