All Replacement Heads Out Of Stock.

[SteveI]

@claywalker,
Have you tried the BVC on maxi, ET or CE5? I realize they will be too long, but am curious if it is workable.
I ordered a bunch of coils, but they are not due to arrive for weeks. I plan on playing around with all my aspire tanks to see if I can get them to work with my vamo. With a little help, my SI Vivi Nova works great.

@charlzrocks
I have a nautilus with vamo I just received this week. The nautilus has BVC, and the inside is the same. The outside has threads on top for the unit so it is not compatible with other BVC units. The damn thing is huge, and leaked 2 ml out over night. It suffered serious gurgling before and after. Now I keep it on its side and it is vaping well. Not a huge improvement, but slightly better than BDC in terms of flavor, about the same in vaper production. I am also using 1.8 so that could be it too. (Just realized, another great thing about the nautius. Due to the airflow control, when it leaked, the juice came out of the air flow holes on the side, and did not flood the battery.)

If SI does stock up on BVC, I am guessing there will be a lot of excitement, just due to having stock, and no one will really notice the difference.

 

[charlzrocks]

@claywalker,
Have you tried the BVC on maxi, ET or CE5? I realize they will be too long, but am curious if it is workable.
I ordered a bunch of coils, but they are not due to arrive for weeks. I plan on playing around with all my aspire tanks to see if I can get them to work with my vamo. With a little help, my SI Vivi Nova works great.

@charlzrocks
I have a nautilus with vamo I just received this week. The nautilus has BVC, and the inside is the same. The outside has threads on top for the unit so it is not compatible with other BVC units. The damn thing is huge, and leaked 2 ml out over night. It suffered serious gurgling before and after. Now I keep it on its side and it is vaping well. Not a huge improvement, but slightly better than BDC in terms of flavor, about the same in vaper production. I am also using 1.8 so that could be it too. (Just realized, another great thing about the nautius. Due to the airflow control, when it leaked, the juice came out of the air flow holes on the side, and did not flood the battery.)

If SI does stock up on BVC, I am guessing there will be a lot of excitement, just due to having stock, and no one will really notice the difference.

Glad you are digging the Nautilus. It is too big of a tank for my taste but I have heard things about gurgling with the bvc's. I will stick to the BDC's for now.

 

[claywalker2000]

@claywalker,
Have you tried the BVC on maxi, ET or CE5? I realize they will be too long, but am curious if it is workable.
I ordered a bunch of coils, but they are not due to arrive for weeks. I plan on playing around with all my aspire tanks to see if I can get them to work with my vamo. With a little help, my SI Vivi Nova works great.

@charlzrocks
I have a nautilus with vamo I just received this week. The nautilus has BVC, and the inside is the same. The outside has threads on top for the unit so it is not compatible with other BVC units. The damn thing is huge, and leaked 2 ml out over night. It suffered serious gurgling before and after. Now I keep it on its side and it is vaping well. Not a huge improvement, but slightly better than BDC in terms of flavor, about the same in vaper production. I am also using 1.8 so that could be it too. (Just realized, another great thing about the nautius. Due to the airflow control, when it leaked, the juice came out of the air flow holes on the side, and did not flood the battery.)

If SI does stock up on BVC, I am guessing there will be a lot of excitement, just due to having stock, and no one will really notice the difference.

If I am remembering right I believe I tried the Nova's BDC coils on my ET back in January, and it barely screwed on my MVP but worked or it was with the CE5. It is similar to what I am doing right now with the Kanger mini pro tank III, even though it is 510 I can barely screw it on my MVP and vape with it just fine.

Charlzrocks, I said it on this topic or on another one. One of my local vape shops said that Aspire discontinued the BDC's and are only making BVC's now. Which could be the issue with SI getting new inventory.

Either way the inventory issues are silly and are going to force me to 510. My MVP doesn't hold a 2 day charge like it used to. In fact it is less than a day now. So I will be having to buy more gear and I will have to buy elsewhere. With all of these inventory issues SI should switch to 510. For me the reason why I bought all my hardware from SI was for the simplicity of getting into vaping and expanding my collection. They can still do that with 510 now that the manufacturers are finally moving to a clearomizer system that uses the same coils. I am making the change SI and I hope you do the same so I can still be a customer.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Yeah, the whole 808 thing is really biting SI in the ..... But after a lot of research and learning this past few weeks, I figure there is also another thing that really makes SI less desirable and that is the choice of eliquids. Nicquid, while good, is very high priced stuff. Liquid can be had for much cheaper than that. I do understand they have the Volt line, however it is not USA made and I don't vape Chinese juice just as i do not eat pre-packaged food from China. Please correct me if I'm wrong about Volt liquid being Chinese.

 

[B I L]

OK, so I can't / won't wait anymore for the Aspire coils to be in stock. I have 4 spinners and 4 aspire ET's which I love. But I've been needing coils for awhile now. I'm trying to follow this thread but I'm not understanding a lot of things you guys are saying about Nautilus, BVC, etc. Not sure if I could use a different coil or not. That's my fault though, I'm just not ecig literate. So my question is, when I go to 510 I won't be able to use ANY of my SI stuff? They'll be pretty useless, right?

Also, it took me a long time to get all my ecig gear since I'm on SSI and I can't buy everything at one time. (I did spend quite a bit of money on the SI cig-a-like when I first started ecigs but didn't like them). Now I'm having to start all over again with a different company that uses 510. I know it's probably rude to ask this here but can I get some advice on somewhere that sells maybe a kit for cheap that uses 510. I would like to stick with spinner type batteries and Aspire ET. I would appreciate it. Thanks.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Hey, B I L,

Here's what you can do.

1. Buy a 808D-1 to 510 adapter...

https://highdesertvapes.com/products/808-to-510-Adapter.html

2. Buy a 510 to Ego adapter...

https://highdesertvapes.com/products/510-%2d-eGo-Adapter.html

3. Buy an Aspire BDC or BVC coil, either one will do but make sure you do nto buy the Nautilus BVC, that won't work. Just the regular Aspire BVC or BDC coil head. They don't have them at the store I liked to above. Many places sell them, though. If you have a local vape shop, get it there. They should cost you no more than $3 or $4 dollars. Buying a new Aspire BDC or BVC Head for you ET from SI will now turn your SI ET into a regular Aspire ET, made for 510/eGo batteries.


Change the coil head, screw on the 808-510 adapter to your Volt Spinner, thread the 510-eGo adapter on the that adapter and then screw your ET onto that. Voila...


Only problem is, you are left with a hell of a mess between your battery and your tank.



An eGo thread cover or beauty ring wont cover it all up.



A cone from SI might work though. One of the longer ones.


Ultimately, instead of those 2 adapters, you would be better off getting an 808D-1 to eGo Adapter, but they are hard to find. I cannot find any. EVC has them for sale, but they are outta stock...

Thread Adapter | 808D-1 to eGo - EVcigarettes.com

If you can get your hands on one of those, a thread eGo cover might actually work.

 

[B I L]

Hey, B I L,

3. Buy an Aspire BDC or BVC coil, either one will do but make sure you do nto buy the Nautilus BVC, that won't work. Just the regular Aspire BVC or BDC coil head. They don't have them at the store I liked to above. Many places sell them, though. If you have a local vape shop, get it there. They should cost you no more than $3 or $4 dollars. Buying a new Aspire BDC or BVC Head for you ET from SI will now turn your SI ET into a regular Aspire ET, made for 510/eGo batteries.

That's my main problem is I can't buy an Aspire coil because SI don't have any in stock. I have quite a few vape shops where I live. So I can just buy one from there? I thought the only place I could get the replacement head was at SI since I bought the ET at SI. I will go to the vape shop tomorrow and check it out. What is a BVC? And coil is the same as replacement head, correct?

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I did not mean to buy one from SI, I mean, buy one from anyone else. Everyone sells Aspire heads that will only work with 510/eGo batts. So by buying one from someone else and putting it your SI Aspire ET tank, it will not make it compatible with 510/eGo batts. However, it will no longer work with your volt batt anymore, unless you use the adapter set up I told you to use above.


You see, the only difference between SI's Aspire ET and the original Aspire ET or ETS tank (clearomizer, whatever) is that the coil on SI's ET has a shorter center post so even though you can thread SI's ET onto and eGo/510 batt, the center post on the coil won't touch the center post on the eGo/510 batt. Other than that, the coil is exactly the same. Well, other than the fact taht what you have now is a BDC coil but you will most likely buy a BVC. Some stores still do have BDC coils though. But the center post is the same and wither will work for you.

 

[claywalker2000]

That's my main problem is I can't buy an Aspire coil because SI don't have any in stock. I have quite a few vape shops where I live. So I can just buy one from there? I thought the only place I could get the replacement head was at SI since I bought the ET at SI. I will go to the vape shop tomorrow and check it out. What is a BVC? And coil is the same as replacement head, correct?

BDC - Bottom Dual Coil
BVC - Bottom Vertical Coil

BDC and BVC are coils that are the same size and they both fit in your Aspire clearomizers. If you buy one of those two coils at your local vape shop or online then it will turn your 808 Aspire ET's into 510 Aspire ET's. So if you buy a new battery you can keep your Aspire ET's if you buy the coils outside of SI.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

So if you buy a new battery you can keep your Aspire ET's if you buy the coils outside of SI.

Right, or you can buy the adapter(s) as I showed you above and that way you can continue to use your Si Volt instead of buying a new battery,

 

[B I L]

Thanks to both of you. I don't want to go the route of adapters. And since I only have 4 Aspire ET's, I might as well just buy an 808 battery and Aspire ET's that will fit. Hopefully I can find a kit that way it will be cheaper. I get paid on the 1st. I think I'm going to go to my local vape shop and see what they have. I should buy 808 stuff though since I can get them pretty easy, right? I know some of you go all out and buy expensive things but I can't do that. I just want my same setup... about 3 batteries and 4 Aspire ET's. Thanks again for all your help. It's appreciated.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

BIL

I think you have things backwards. 808 stuff is very hard to find, which is the whole reason for this thread in a way. Since SI is not supplying their 808 aspire coils, we are in a predicament because the coils made by aspire only come in 510 style. SI must have had these Aspire coils made specifically for them because I cannot find Aspire coils for 808s. They simply are not made for the general market.

So, you don;t want to go and buy more 808 stuff. What you really need right now is new coils. If you continue to buy 808 batteries and keep using the SI Aspire ETs that you have, your coils will eventually burn out and if you go to the store or online and buy these coils elsewhere, they will fit perfectly in your SI Aspire ETs but they will not work with your SI 808 Volt spinners, because essentially what you did by replacing the coils with the "real" Aspire coils was to turn you ETs into 510 tanks. So, as soon as you do that, your SI Volt spinner become useless to you.

In my personal opinion, what you need to do, since you are not willing to buy adapters and since you are willing to buy a new battery, is to go online to a well-known reputable seller and buy a couple of 510/eGo spinner batteries and get yourself a 5-pack of Aspire BVC (or even BDC) coils. To be honest, they are all the same pretty much. Just buy from a reputable seller so you are sure not to get a cheap knock off. So far, I can definitely recommend the Vision Spinners. I have 2 1300 mAh Vision spinners and 2 1600mAh Vision Spinner IIs. I don;t recommend the spinner IIs simply because I think that you get very little for the extra $5 to $10 you have to spend.

Let's face it, the only way to get SI BDC coils right now is to buy new tanks from them, and that is obviously a waste of money. I think, especially in your case when you are on a fixed income, the best way to go is with the industry standard stuff which is 510/eGo that way you can always get stuff from your local shop when you are in a pinch. Buy moving to 510 now, the only thing you lose is the use of your Volt spinner. But as stated, if you want to continue to use it til it dies is to transform your ETs to 510/eGo (as stated above) and buy the adapters I told you to buy. That will enable you to keep using your Volt Spinner even once you've converted your ETs to 510 compatibility. BUt that's up to you. You can just track the Volt altogether once you get your new 510 stuff. You got some use out of it and the loss suffered is minimal since the ET tanks are still good so long as you replace the coils. you can also get verified and here on the forum and try to sell it in the classifies to recoup some of the money you spent on it. Won't be worth much, though.

If you continue to buy 808 stuff some day you will regret it as you will not be able to find stuff and SI will be out of stock and the next thing you know you are back to analogs.

 

[B I L]

Thank you cxm322, yes I meant to say I will be switching TO 510 FROM 808. I can't believe I have to go through all this just because a little coil isn't in stock. Anyway, thanks for all your help.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

BIL, not sure if you're cleaning your coil heads. But if you aren't and you would like to know how, here's a thread about it. Easy to do and with care you could entend the life of your coils to keep using your Volt Spinner til you decide what you're gonna do...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...4-easy-method-clean-aspire-bdc-coil-head.html

BTW, this should be the same procedure when you finally switch over to the newer BVC coils.

 

[SteveI]

@ B I L
Nautilus is a huge tank made by aspire. The coil is different than the regular coil. It has threads at the top as well as the bottom. Inside, the actual coils are the same..

Basically right now, Aspire has 2 types of coils, BDC or Bottom dual coil (which is being phased out), and BVC or Bottom vertical coil (which is the new thing).

Also, ignoring SI for a moment, there are two sizes, the regular which fits most aspire tanks, and the big coils, which works on the nautilus and nautilus mini.

If you have an SI Vivi Nova, it basically has a regular BDC aspire coil, and you can buy the new BVC coils from anywhere and continue using your Vivi Nova on SI batteries.

I am in the process of swapping. I am waiting for vape mail, maybe another week, to basically do what cxm advises above. I am getting a bunch of aspire BVC coils, and will use them on my maxi, mini, and ET so I can use them on my 510/ego battery (vamo actually).

If you weren't clear across the country, I would happily sell you my stock pile of coils from SI.

EDIT: I even bought replacement bases for my T3 single coil. Using that with a kanger single coil makes it a 510/ego tank as well. If all goes well, I plan on giving my sister my SI batteries. Once her supply runs low, I'll get her set up on 510/ego's as well.

EDIT2: Sorry, a lot of what I said just repeated what others said above me.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

@ B I L
If you have an SI Vivi Nova, it basically has a regular BDC aspire coil, and you can buy the new BVC coils from anywhere and continue using your Vivi Nova on SI batteries.

Steve, that won't work. SI's Aspire coils are specially made for SI's 808 threaded batteries, If you put a regular Aspire BVC or BDC coil in any SI Aspire tank, it will effectively turn it into an eGo/510 tank and cannot be used on any SI volts or X2s because the center post on the regular Aspire BVC or BDC coils are slightly longer and therefore since the center post on an 808/Ego threaded battery ticks up closer to the rim of the 808 threading, a regular Aspire the tank will no longer fit an SI Volt.

At lest I know this is the case for the ET and the CE5 so I assume it will be the same for all the other Aspire tanks SI sells. If all SI had to do was supply us with regular old Aspire BVC or BDC coils, they woul dnot be out, they would have them as they are really easy to get. BUt SI, becasue they are Ego/808 threading, they had to get their coils specially manufactured for them. Now, apparently they are SOL. I have a good feeling that SI was getting these coils made from a cloning factory and ran into trouble. Aspire is hell-bent on curtailing cloning of it's products. I believe this because none of the Aspire coils or Aspire tanks I bought from SI are branded with the Aspire logo. But I could be wrong.

 

[B I L]

One more thing. I'm a little confused. I thought what made the 510 and 808 different is the threading. How will the SI Aspire ET thread onto a Vision Spinner even though I exchange the SI coil to an "original" Aspire coil.

EDIT: Can I use my SI Volt Spinner Charger for my Vision Spinner? If not, which one do I choose on their site. The vision ego charger?

 

[SteveI]

@cxm,
SI sells 2 different Aspire BDC coils. The one made just for the Vivi Nova has a slightly longer connector. However, because of this, it can work with an ego battery, using an adapter. I am using it like this now. The connecter sticks far enough out to go into the 510 "well" and connect. The shorter connector based coils are for the ET, maxi and mini vivi. It is my belief that by using the regular BDC coils with the longer connecter will enable these tanks to work on a 510/ego battery. Outside of the SI forum, there have been a few reports of this. I have 1 last SI coil (viv nova) sitting on my desk. As soon as my BDC coils come in, I can compare them side by side, and try it on my max mini and ET.

EDIT: I may have misunderstood you... I think... I agree that all other SI aspires will no longer work with SI batteries, and will effectively become "mainstream" ego tanks. However, if my theory holds, I believe the Vivi Nova is an exception will still work with SI batteries or continue to work with mainstream batteries with an adapter.

BIL,
The ego (outside) threading is the same on the 510 and 808 batteries. However, the issue is the design of the smaller connector. On SI (808) batteries, the connector is near the top. On the 510's, the connection is recessed. A tank with ego threading will have a deep well, with a connector that protrudes to allow for the deep well structure of 510 batteries. I can confirm 100% (for me) when I use a 510 to 510 adapter that has ego threading, I can use my stock SI vivi nova. Nothing special. I can tell you that the tank screws in past where it should in order for the positive connector to make contact. It screws in smoothly, and fits well. It does not feel like I had to jam it in. I am very happy using my vamo (510/ego) with my SI vivi nova. I am waiting on vape mail to complete my experiments on my other SI tanks.

In terms of charging, be careful. It depends on the battery you want to charge. Most 510 batteries charge from the connector. As such, you have to have a charger that uses the 510 threads. On the surface it would look like a volt spinner charger, but the threads would be reversed. Some 510/ego batteries, can use either a micro or mini USB connection. I do not have a vsion spinner, but I would guess you need a 510 charger. Confirm with the etailer before purchasing. The SI spinner uses 808, and will not work.

 

[S_Steve]

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