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Allergy to propylene glycerol help!!

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  1. Hoperz98

    Hoperz98 New Member

    Jul 1, 2015
    So I recently started vaping. I've never had any major issues besides the asthma attack on occasion. I got this new ejuice and it was fine at first but today my glands in my throat swelled up on the right side only. I can barely swallow, I have had migraines frequently, since May, when I first began. But I've always had headaches. Just not like this. My stomach is cramping so bad. I have crohns disease so it might be THAT but still.. Should I be concerned. I can breathe. I just can't talk, swallow, drink barely. Should I switch to vegetable glycogen?!
  2. hiram13pm

    hiram13pm Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 4, 2010
    Merced, CA
    It couldn't hurt to try it. It could also be the flavor, is it a new flavor for you? What exactly is the new juice?

    Vegetable glycerin can be found at just about every Wal Mart; you could try cutting your juice with it (it'll cut the flavor and nic too, of course)... or just vaping some plain to see if you react to it.
  3. Thrasher

    Thrasher ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 28, 2012
    Madeira beach, Fla
    Allmost everything you describe is nicotine too high and swallowing it somehow or getting it in your mouth.

    Headaches are from nic od
    Cramps is what happens when you swallow juice
  4. dc99

    dc99 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 17, 2014
    I have throat issues with PG. I DIY now and the only PG I use is in the flavorings. About 20% is all I can tolerate. The headache part is most likely from the nic like thrasher said. With all the drippers and high wattage tanks out now Im even down to 3mg
  5. edyle

    edyle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    what nicotine milligram strength do you vape and at what wattage?

    for a ballpark figure

    a lot of people vape at about 100 milligramwatts per ml
    24 mg/ml x 5 watts
    12 mg/ml x 10 watts
    3 mg/ml x 30 watts

    total nicotine intake per say is often about 100 milligrams also.
  6. Ryedan

    Ryedan ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 31, 2012
    Ontario, Canada
    Hoperz98, I'm not a doctor, this is just my personal opinion.

    If I had your symptoms, specially the ones I bolded above, I would get myself to a hospital emergency room quickly. Whatever is happening, for whatever reason, could quickly become quite serious. I would stop vaping immediately. It could be something in the juice or it could be something else entirely. Either way I would consider this situation very serious and get medical help quickly.

    Good luck with it :thumb:
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  7. AndriaD

    AndriaD Reviewer / Blogger Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 24, 2014
    Yes, that, and I think the OP really needs to figure out just what he's allergic to, if anything -- we vape PROPYLENE GLYCOL and GLYCERINE... not whatever he said.

    I would estimate 9 times out of 10 when a brand new vaper reports an "allergy," it's nothing of the sort. Could be a sensitivity, or just not using it correctly so that the wick burns, or juice gets swallowed... or has just quit smoking and has the symptoms of THAT and thinks they're symptoms from vaping.

  8. Hoperz98

    Hoperz98 New Member

    Jul 1, 2015
    The juice is called vaporfi. It's piña colada. 1.8% nicotine level. It's not a new flavoring but it is a new brand. I am not addicted to cigarettes but I did smoke about 1-5 a week. So I stopped that about a month ago. My entire body hurts, aches actually. Out of gas so hospital is a negative unless I cannot breathe or develop a high fever. It's 99 right now. I thought I was just getting sick, but I thought about it and you were right I do think the nicotine is way too high for me since I'm not a heavy smoker. Thanks for all the tips and advice sorry I misspelled things! Newb alert! Lol
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  9. Hoperz98

    Hoperz98 New Member

    Jul 1, 2015

    Honestly all I know is that my tank holds 1.6 ml and the nic % for the piña colada is 1.8.
  10. edyle

    edyle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    ok, that 1.8% is 18 milligrams per millilitre.

    and what are you vaping with? a cigar sized vape pen / ego sized battery ?
    probably an evod type starter kit.
    that's probably 5 watts
  11. Hoperz98

    Hoperz98 New Member

    Jul 1, 2015
    It's an ego-T 1100 watts
  12. edyle

    edyle ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    that's an ego type battery; 1100 milliamp hours.

    Unless you fill that tank 5 to 10 times a day, I don't think you are getting a lot of nicotine compared to the average.
  13. Racehorse

    Racehorse ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 12, 2012
    USA midwest
    Aw, sorry to hear you are suffering. :(

    Only way to know:
    Vape 100PG plain unflavored
    Vape 100%VG plain unflavored.

    That way you have narrowed it down. If it's not either of those, then it's one of the flavorings in a juice you are using.

    I don't get any of the normal PG symptoms, but I definitely can't use much of it. I tried again this year, year #3....and the same thing happened almost immediately: leg cramps. I mean, those charlie horses that wake you up in the night and it hurt so bad you feel paralyzed and tears are coming into your eyes.

    I just vaped some higher PG stuff for ONE DAY and it happens. I've tried this little experiment about 9 times now, over the course of 3 I know it's the PG. ;)

    I can take about 20% and that's it.
  14. Racehorse

    Racehorse ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 12, 2012
    USA midwest
    Oh lordy! 1-5 cigs a week and you're vaping 1.8% (18mg)? Who ever told you to get that level of nic?

    Even if you were vaping high nic full flavor cigs, I'd start you off at no more than 6mg....or even less!. That is what 5 cigs a week comes out to.


    No wonder you feel so sick.
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  15. Sir2fyablyNutz

    Sir2fyablyNutz ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 22, 2015
    West Virginia, USA
    I agree wholeheartedly with Race. 18 mg for what you smoked is WAY to high. Buy some 6 mg or even 3 mg, you'll feel better. I'd guess 90% of your issues are the nic level in the juice you are using. I was a 2 pack a day of lights when I quit, and 12 mg was my level, 18 made me ill. I'd highly suggest cutting the nic back before trying to change anything else. Clearly the nic is too high.
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