Alternative to atomizers?

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Huuy

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Hello, I'm new in the e-cig world and I first started out with a Green Smoke, luckily I was still under the 30-day money back guarantee :). I wanted to get an eGo-T but noticed that it uses atomizers. Is there a starter kit somewhere that uses caromizers/tank? I was thinking about buying the Lavatube and a tank Tube right away. I understand you have to replace cartos but from what I heard they last a lot longer than atomizers.

Basically what I'm looking for is a long-lasting battery, and good clearomizer/tank/cart etc. I don't honestly care about looks or anything like that.
 

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If you have the cash for the lavatube, then I'd go for it now. There are several vendors that sell carto tanks, but I wouldn't stuff a bunch of juice into a tank system till I had a juice that I know I love.

Get several packs of 3ohm boge cartos. Use the atty that comes with the lavatube to test out new juices. Don't buy a big bottle of any juice till you've tried it.

There are lots of Carto tank systems out there, and a video here if you want to make your own.
 

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Hi. A well-cared-for atomizer will generally last many times longer than a cartomizer will. Many people simply find the atomizer/cartridge combination to be more hassle than just using cartomizers. Cartos will cost more, as they are meant to be disposable, but they are easier and often perform better or more reliably.

I like using the atomizers, especially for trying new mixtures of e-liquid. I usually only use cartos when I'm on-the-go, as they are more convenient for that.

I hear a lot of complaints about tanks, and have not looked into them much. I'd say research any of those that you are thinking of buying beforehand.

Anyway, many sites sell starter kits designed for carto use, like the RIVA 510 Carto Deluxe here:

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

You can always buy a couple of atomizers for that, if you want. Or, get a kit with atomizers, and buy some cartos with it, like I did.
 

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Greetings, Huuy!

I would like to start by discouraging you from ordering the eGo. If looks are not your first priority then
there much better alternatives on the market for far less out of your wallet. In fact, just from an electronics perspective,
the battery it contains can easily be outperformed by most of those found in mods being mass-produced alongside it.

also you are right about cartos lasting longer than attys. Ive used both and i usually only use the attys now to try new juice flavors. (dipping and dripping)I use Cartomizers for all my regular vaping and am quite satisfied with them.

Whatever battery you decide on. its a good idea IMO to go with a 510 connector. from what ive seen this will offer the widest array of accessories that you can simply screw on an go.

I have only been vaping for about a year now but I've run the gamut on different equipment and even built a few mods to save money.

One thing is for certain. We are in the right place.
 

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I use a LT with a 3 ohm smoktech carto in the smoktech tank and it freakin' rocks. The exact same thing you can get from volcano. The tanks and cartos are much cheaper at madvapes or one of the other fine vendors here. We have a volcano vendor local and I try to support them when I can but the cartos, etc there are way overpriced.
 

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Remember, THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION!!!! I reccomend buying an ego-t starter kit that is the type B cylinder shaped atomizers with a 1000mah battery. I bought mine from mikeusa.com , I also would go to madvapes.com and buy a few ego mega dual coil cartomizers. That way you can use the tanks and see if they work for you and also enjoy the conveinience of using cartomizers. They both look great and are small enough to fit in your pocket!!! The batteries last a whole day of heavy use, and the ego battery is so interchangeable with other products you wont have a hard time enjoying the wide variety of products made for it. I also found that of all the liquids i have tried i enjoy High caliber liquid the best!!! Its available at myvaporstore.com or altsmoke.com. I have had nothing but positive transactions with these vendors and couldnt be happier with my current set-up!!!
 

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Hi. A well-cared-for atomizer will generally last many times longer than a cartomizer will. Many people simply find the atomizer/cartridge combination to be more hassle than just using cartomizers. Cartos will cost more, as they are meant to be disposable, but they are easier and often perform better or more reliably.

On the contrary, I've had cartomizers last longer than atomizers. Nope cartomizers don't cost more. I buy a pack of 5 for $4 in bulk from China. One pack will last, majority of the time, longer than an atomizers at almost half the price.
 

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On the contrary, I've had cartomizers last longer than atomizers. Nope cartomizers don't cost more. I buy a pack of 5 for $4 in bulk from China. One pack will last, majority of the time, longer than an atomizers at almost half the price.

Agree with Hairball 100%

My .02, steer away from ego tanks.
 

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Welcome to the ECF. I'm glad you made a decision to get away from smoking tobacco. Using a Personal Vaporizer as an alternative is healthier and a lot more enjoyable.

There is a lot of information here, and it can be a bit overwhelming choosing the right PV and juice. However, it can also be easy if you choose good equipment and take your time in learning to use it.

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Recommendation for those who don't want to read the whole thing:

This is your shopping list:
  • 1 standard 3.7v mod such as the Indulgence V3 or E-Power
  • 2 batteries for your mod
  • 1 battery charger
  • 2 packs of Boge 2.0 Ohm cartomizers for trying juices
  • 1 carto tank from Madvapes
  • Several sample packs of juice to try out

I know, I know; OMG! he's recommending a mod to newbies! My take is:
  • Small batteries are going to be frustrating and may lead to failure
  • eGo, Kgo and the like cost more money to replace batteries and don't have replaceable parts
  • A good mod will give a better vape, last longer and will be more likely to help you kick the smoking habit
  • Dripping is confusing and difficult for many people. Cartos are cheap, and you can use them to try a sample. If you don't like it, throw the carto and sample out
  • Filling cartomizers is a pain, a tank is easy to fill, lasts all day and needs to be replaced less often. Once you find your all-day vape, this is the way to go


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Many kits you will find online are made up of the following parts:
  • Battery
  • Charger
  • Cartridge (cart)
  • Atomizer (atty)

While an atomizer can be handy for testing new juices by direct dripping, this configuration is difficult to use and tends to perform poorly. The first thing you will want to get with your kit is a pack or two of cartomizers (cartos). Cartomizers have their own atomizer and cartridge in one piece, have a more consistent vape and hold more juice.

Atomizers and cartomizers have a resistance rating in Ohms. You cannot use low resistence attys and cartos on a small battery as they pull too much power and will kill your small battery. You need a battery 450 Mah or higher for low-resistance attys and cartos.

The basic types of cartomizers are:
  • Standard resistance (usually 3.0 ohms)
  • Low resistance (as low as 1.5 ohms)
  • Cartomizer tank

The standard resistance cartos are the only cartos you can use on a small battery PV.

Low resistance cartos give more vapor and a hotter vape. The lower the resistance, the bigger the battery you need.

A cartomizer tank has a cartomizer inside a small tank. The cartomizer has a small hole punched in it so soak juice into the carto so that you can just fill the tank when it gets empty.

The basic types of personal vaporizers in use are:
  • Small battery, cigarette-sized
  • Big battery, cigar-sized
  • Standard modification (mod)
  • Variable-voltage mod (VV mod)
  • Bottom-feeder mod
  • Box mod


The small battery PV's are meant to simulate a regular cigarette as much as possible. These can be convenient as they are small and easy to carry. However, they have a very short battery life and require you to constantly have a battery charging.

The big battery types have a much longer battery life so that you can vape one PV all day without charging.

A standard mod has removable batteries of varying sizes. This enables you to have a PV that can stay charged for very long periods, and the batteries are removable and cheap which saves money. Many mods have replaceable parts so that if, for instance, a switch fails you just buy a new switch and replace it.

Variable voltage mods allow you to adjust the voltage depending on the carto and juice you are using at the time. This allows great flexibility, but you also need to have a workable understanding of voltage and resistance. Not recommended for new users.

A bottom-feeder mod is usually a box mod with a small juice bottle attached. You squeeze (squonk) the bottle to fill the attached cartomizer. Once you get used to sqonking the right amount of juice into the carto, you can get a very consistent vape all day long.

A box mod is just that: a box that contains a battery or batteries, an activation switch and a connection to screw your cartomizer or atty into. These can be small or big and blocky. They can also be variable-voltage.

The next thing you will need is juice. This is probably the most difficult part. Every one's tastes are different, and your tastes will change over time. You may even have periods where you can't taste anything, or everything tastes terrible. You may have a hard time finding juices you can vape all day. The best thing to do is try small samples until you find something you like, and then stock up on those. You will just have to experiment.

One important thing to know about juice: no juice is going to taste like burning tobacco. You aren't burning anything, you are creating vapor. The "tobacco flavored" juices taste more like chewing or pipe tobacco not cigarettes.

This is just my personal opinion, take it with a grain of salt. You are the only one who can decide what's best for you.

Finally: quitting smoking is difficult no matter what method you use. Take it easy on yourself. Take your time and if you still need to smoke as you're learning; go ahead and smoke. You will set yourself up for failure if you stress yourself out. Be patient, and you will get there.
 
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