Altsmoke, start selling Y tips for DBSB already

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Hmmm, that's a pretty tall order for a VERY low volume item...

I would think maybe the best you could hope for is that Chad gets some time somewhere and makes one for himself and then lists the parts and instructions for how to do it. I'm thinking:

1) They don't do plastics/delrin/whatever. The single drip tips they offer now they get from elsewhere.
2) Metal drip tips are just not a good idea... Get an atty or coil in a cartomizer that sticks up further than normal and it's kind of like putting a spoon in a microwave.
2a) The design and machining of something like that would be very complex. Probably end up being a 3 or 4 piece item?
3) Make something out of flexible plastic tubing and you have durability issues and they would probably have to use surgical tubing material for liability concerns and there would be a lot of returns, etc.
4) Did I mention that it would be really low volume? Don't forget that the DBSB was just sort of made as a one (few) of a kind novelty item. Then they got pressured to making a couple runs of them. It's not going to be cost effective to put the design and manufacturing effort into making something that would meet the standards to be sold commercially and only a few pieces. (by the way, how much would you expect to pay for something like that? $30? maybe more?)

I could be completely wrong but I wouldn't be holding my breath.

I can't believe that one of you ingenius (and possibly enterprising) owners haven't come up with a solution yet. I'm almost inspired to make one and I don't even own a DBSB. A "Y" tube would be most elegant but 2 90* elbows and a "T" connector would be a lot easier. I mean, you know the diameter of the atomizer. I think Chad said they're 1/2"? center to center. but if you're using silicon tubing it would be simple to size. So you'd want to get about 1' of thick walled silicon tubing with an inner diameter slightly (1mm? maybe 0.5mm?) smaller than the outer diameter of the atomizer/cartomizer you're using, 2 90* elbows, 1 "T" connector. Cut tubing to length and you're set. You could probably even do without the 90* elbows but you would lose a lot of rigidity and it might end up too floppy.

5) oh yea, different atomizers/cartomizers for different folks... might even have to have different models with even less volume each.

[Edit] On second thought you'll probably have to forget any of the connectors. center-to-center is too close. You could probaby get creative with an exacto blade and with an angle cut you could splice the two tubes together. I speced out some silicon tubing that might work (might be too thick for the space between the outside of the two atomizers) on www.smallparts.com. Smallest quantity you can order would be 100' for about $25.
 
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I understand that its low volume but if you are selling a product, you should also sell the stuff that would render that product useful. I don't think its that much of a hassle. T tip would also do it. Ordering a custom T tip plastic material shouldn't cost much for them really.

Like you said, I would expect them to at least show us a way to do it or tell us a place to order a Y or T tip.
 

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I understand that its low volume but if you are selling a product, you should also sell the stuff that would render that product useful. I don't think its that much of a hassle. T tip would also do it. Ordering a custom T tip plastic material shouldn't cost much for them really.

Like you said, I would expect them to at least show us a way to do it or tell us a place to order a Y or T tip.

ummm, the DBSB is totally unique. You're not going to find a place to order a Y or T tip... When you go to a plastic place for a custom order I think they start with minimums in the thousands and then there is some huge one time fee for them to design and makes the molds or tool up. Otherwise I'd expect something in the ball park of $20 a piece? You'd have to sell them for $30 minimum to try to recoup just some of your losses.

As for selling it... I don't think I can remember AltSmoke EVER even hinting that they want to sell these things. It was made as a novelty. Someone saw it in a video (probably Truelove's fault) and then it was "If you don't make one of those for me I'm going to kill you".

No, just for 510. Just like there is just one type of SB there should be only one type of DBSB tip

haha, I'm guessing at least half the owners (maybe more) are using KR808D cartomizers?

I'd really like to know some ball park figures on what it takes to have someone custom make something like this for you. Hopefully someone with that knowledge or experience will chime in. It's going to be some relatively expensive/hard to work with material too. Can't just be vacuform plastic. Has to hold up to heat, can't be too brittle, can't off gas anything harmful, has to be finished smooth... Remember it's a unique piece. It's not like getting your custom logo on a pen.
 
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I have been waiting and waiting and looking around for months to find a Y tip for my DBSB. Simply, nothing works. I am tired of using my DBSB single barreled. Its nothing different than a SB for me and I believe most of us.

Maybe this thread will encourage you to do something about it.
There are a few that are unable to master the double barrel. Pen grips or whistle tips is what they have had the most success with. There have only been 200 or so sold world wide. To produce it would be easy, as long as you are willing to spend thousands of dollars for injection molding setup, then you have MOQ. I would basically end up with thousands of "y-tips" laying around my shop, and which would remain there for years and years to come. Our machine is tied up 100% of the time right now with the OMEGA run, then it will be tied up on stock runs.
On a side note, the adapters are .450in on center. Standard 510 atties have an ID of .340in. The reasoning behind the .450in on center is because standard 801 atties are .446-.448in in diamater at the thickest point. :2c:
 

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On a side note, the adapters are .450in on center. Standard 510 atties have an ID of .340in. The reasoning behind the .450in on center is because standard 801 atties are .446-.448in in diamater at the thickest point. :2c:

Doh... I think the DIY'er isn't going to be able to manage an inner diameter solution like the drip tips now. Probably more chance of success working a tube over the atty. But with only about .1" between the barrels that's going to make for fairly thin walled tubing... o well, how are those Omegas coming along? :D
 

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Thanks Chad I appreciate it. I got one quick question for you. My DBSB is getting scratched a lot and getting dark spots. Is it enough if I just polish it or do I need to do something else before polishing it ? Like using a sandpaper or something ?
You could use 1500grit before using mothers polish. If you rub hard enough small sctartes will come out with the mothers.
 

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Doh... I think the DIY'er isn't going to be able to manage an inner diameter solution like the drip tips now. Probably more chance of success working a tube over the atty. But with only about .1" between the barrels that's going to make for fairly thin walled tubing... o well, how are those Omegas coming along? :D
The OMEGA is going, machine is turning the parts out. I just don't want to anounce a release date yet.:evil:
 

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I have been waiting and waiting and looking around for months to find a Y tip for my DBSB. Simply, nothing works. I am tired of using my DBSB single barreled. Its nothing different than a SB for me and I believe most of us.

This video might help you out a bit.
Check out the whistle tips he's using at about 1:55, it's no hassle -

YouTube - Double Barrel Silver Bullet
 
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