Am I a Luddite?

[bubbalou32]

When you think about it, smoking is easy - you pull out stick, light it and you're done. When you run out, you buy another pack.
I wanted to get back to that simplicity and stopped upgrading with an E-power (now obsolete) and a tanked carto. I'm sure that there are advantages to newer & better hardware but I also wanted to keep the spending in check. Found my limits - I'm finished with the fiddling & experimentation.

 

[CMD-Ky]

When you think about it, smoking is easy - you pull out stick, light it and you're done. When you run out, you buy another pack.
I wanted to get back to that simplicity and stopped upgrading with an E-power (now obsolete) and a tanked carto. I'm sure that there are advantages to newer & better hardware but I also wanted to keep the spending in check. Found my limits - I'm finished with the fiddling & experimentation.

To find contentment in any aspect of life is commendable; realizing you are there is wisdom. If I was you then I would not read another post on this thread; none of us will have anything of value to say to you. However, having nothing of value to say will not deter us from saying whatever our current mental ramblings may generate and so you will have to ignore us.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

There are a lot of hobbyists here who connect with each other.

I have seen indications here that there are many, many others that stay simple and just focus on their nicotine withdrawal needs. Kind of the two extremes, but, this forum does have its hobbyist personality.

You are no heretic, you are just walking your own path.

Good luck! (IMHO)

 

[Bad Ninja]

No.
You aren't a Luddite unless you push your fear of APVs on us.
You just like what you like and that's perfectly fine.

Luddites were groups of English textile workers who had a fear of machines taking their jobs.
They expressed their feelings by destroying machines in factories.
They were terrifies of progress and the changes it brought.

Are ya scared of APVs and the changes they bring?

 

[Jman8]

Now I'm not knocking all the cloud chasing, coil winding, wick trimming gear heads that seem to dominate these forums, but if there's anybody else out there who enjoys vaping with a nice, simple, inexpensive setup, I'd like to hear from you.

Entering my 4th year of vaping and still, proudly, vaping on my cigalike batts from V2.

In late 2014, I tried bigger (allegedly better) device. Thought it was okay, but not inherently better. Especially not considering the eventual costs this would entail. I'll keep that around, but is not my go to device daily.

If I vape in public (which I do, and love it), I'm not able to blow big clouds. Thus much easier to vape in public with respect to others. If I had device that was built to make nice rich clouds, I'd enjoy using it, I'm sure, but not so much in public.

Also helps that V2 has excellent replacement policy. I'll buy a new batt once in awhile, but if any of my current batts stop working, I get it replaced at either no charge or just the cost of shipping.

And with a clearo on the end, I feel I get the most from vaping. Though admit that compared to the big setups, I'm like a novice in vapeland.

 

[Dave2603]

I bought my wife an iStick 30W and an iStick Mini and she uses them some, but she still prefers her EVOD 650 mAh batteries and Kanger T3S or T3D atomizers. If she's happy with it, and it keeps her off cigarettes, why change? I currently use an iStick 50W with either a Melo, Subtank Mini or Atlantis atomizer and I'm happy with it, but there are times I miss the simplicity of the EVOD. Whatever works for you and successfully replaces the analogs is great!

 

[93gc40]

Probably are, but you sound like I did/do..
I still enjoy my Mini PT3 and Protank on any EGO size battery....... It is the backup to my Mech w Kick. Wife use a mini protank. Heck I build my Kayfun to the same resistances I just run it a couple watts hotter, that a little EGO type can. I didn't "upgrade" because I needed to. I got the rebuildable and the mech to PLAY with.. They just morphed into the daily vape.

 

[crunchie812]

Entering my 4th year of vaping and still, proudly, vaping on my cigalike batts from V2.

In late 2014, I tried bigger (allegedly better) device. Thought it was okay, but not inherently better. Especially not considering the eventual costs this would entail. I'll keep that around, but is not my go to device daily.

If I vape in public (which I do, and love it), I'm not able to blow big clouds. Thus much easier to vape in public with respect to others. If I had device that was built to make nice rich clouds, I'd enjoy using it, I'm sure, but not so much in public.

Also helps that V2 has excellent replacement policy. I'll buy a new batt once in awhile, but if any of my current batts stop working, I get it replaced at either no charge or just the cost of shipping.

And with a clearo on the end, I feel I get the most from vaping. Though admit that compared to the big setups, I'm like a novice in vapeland.

Four years with same gear! Awesome!

I didn't have much luck with cigalikes, but all I ever tried were BLU's and some disposables from the local convenience store. eGO's were the first thing I found that really did the trick for me. Still do, I've given away all my bigger toys.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

No.
You aren't a Luddite unless you push your fear of APVs on us.
You just like what you like and that's perfectly fine.

Luddites were groups of English textile workers who had a fear of machines taking their jobs.
They expressed their feelings by destroying machines in factories.
They were terrifies of progress and the changes it brought.

Are ya scared of APVs and the changes they bring?

but it was not an irrational fear. They did lose their jobs, they were realists.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I bought my wife an iStick 30W and an iStick Mini and she uses them some, but she still prefers her EVOD 650 mAh batteries and Kanger T3S or T3D atomizers. If she's happy with it, and it keeps her off cigarettes, why change? I currently use an iStick 50W with either a Melo, Subtank Mini or Atlantis atomizer and I'm happy with it, but there are times I miss the simplicity of the EVOD. Whatever works for you and successfully replaces the analogs is great!

I moved up to the ego style 650 ma battery and clearomizers from 808 cigalikes. I got the 808 threaded ego style batteries and still use my cartos and clearos on the ego's that I used on the clearos. The esmart clearos are good and really cheap and out of the 4 I use at one time only 1 has failed in 2 months of use.

I gave my 808 batteries to my son to get him into vaping and off cigs.

Strange I was paying $8 each for the little 808 batteries and with shopping around have been getting 650 ma ego style batteries for $4-$7 each....
2 of them are variable voltage clicker types.

 

[Bad Ninja]

but it was not an irrational fear. They did lose their jobs, they were realists.

They were to scared to learn to work WITH the machines, and adapt to a progression in industry.

The strongest don't survive, the ones most able to ADAPT survive.

 

[Alien Traveler]

They were to scared to learn to work WITH the machines, and adapt to a progression in industry.

The strongest don't survive, the ones most able to ADAPT survive.

You are very wrong here. Luddites wanted decent wages and more jobs. Isn't it fair?
By the way, there were many skilled workers among Luddites.

 

[Jman8]

Four years with same gear! Awesome!

Thanks! I agree.

Though pretty sure I don't have much original stuff around as batts do eventually need to be replaced, so probably have all new batts from what I had 4 years ago. But just asked them to replace my chargers (which I kinda sorta thought they might tell me isn't covered under the warranty they offer) and they did replace them, with zero cost to me on shipping. Kinda hard to go away from a company that offers that level of service. And yet, I'm all for those who like bigger (so called) better gear, and having that option available in the free market. I don't see what you are saying as taking away from that at all, but is nice to see your type of post amid the many that are all about coil changing and umpteen million ways to tweak your big ol' mod device.

I didn't have much luck with cigalikes, but all I ever tried were BLU's and some disposables from the local convenience store. eGO's were the first thing I found that really did the trick for me. Still do, I've given away all my bigger toys.

I would certainly consider eGO's and within last few days came close to buying one. But feel I can make that purchase whenever. V2 cigalikes work for me, though I realize they aren't for everyone. I also don't see them as the 'perfect setup' but my list of complaints with what I use would be very short list. 'Whatever works for each of us as individuals' is a great motto for all of us.

 

[jaytex1969]

I think alot of it depends on how one is introduce to the vaping world, who ends up becoming the "peer" group and a number of other factors.

I bought a cheap gas station cigarette looking thing with a glowing red light on the end several years ago. It tasted bad and made my throat hurt and ended up in the trash heap.

Then, a year ago, I found myself at a knowledgeable and helpful vape shop where the owner took his time to explain things to me and earn my business. I walked out with a basic vv APV and clearo set up that worked well. It took me another year to decide to commit to it, but it still works, keeps me satisfied and away from stinky butts.

I do read with interest all of the newer and fancier things available but I am still very happy with my single coil clearo tanks at 8 watts. My vaping peer group is basically me right now. If I hung out with people like Rip Trippers, I'd be more tempted to try some crazier stuff, I guess.

I liken it to using the right tool for the job. I don't drive finishing nails with a sledge hammer. Right now, my hammer is big enough. If my vaping nail gets bigger, I'll seek a heavier APV hammer.

I agree with the previous poster about staying a lap or two behind the cutting edge. Its cheaper and more laid back. I do the same with other stuff, too, like video games.

After everyone else buys the newest computer and greatest video cards for a $grand$ so they can drop another c-note on Call Of Duty version 92, I stroll up two years later. I get the video card on clearance for $35 and the game for $15 and it's still "new" to me. As a bonus, all the bugs are solved and the info readily available on the archived game forum threads.

It might be rather boring around here if we all had the same needs and the same gear. Getting to discover new things and share them is half the fun.

 

[stevegmu]

I like how I can get the perfect vape with gear many on here call outdated, obsolete or low tech...

 

[fxRich]

If it isn't broke don't fix it. If you want more clouds go for it. Personally I'm happy with my t3s and mini protank2 setups whether they are on a 650mah battery or a mod battery. Its all in the coil and air flow anyway, the tank is just something to hold the juice.

 

[Racehorse]

When you think about it, smoking is easy - you pull out stick, light it and you're done. When you run out, you buy another pack.
I wanted to get back to that simplicity and stopped upgrading with an E-power (now obsolete) and a tanked carto. I'm sure that there are advantages to newer & better hardware but I also wanted to keep the spending in check. Found my limits - I'm finished with the fiddling & experimentation.

check out the SNUS forum area. That may be an option for you!

 

[The Cloud Minder]

You are very wrong here. Luddites wanted decent wages and more jobs. Isn't it fair?
By the way, there were many skilled workers among Luddites.

No, not very wrong. While the original "Luddites" are very much as you say, the term "Luddite" is more often associated with the behavior of machine hating and smashing practiced by the man it was named after, Supposedly Ned Ludd.

 

[KattMamma]

Luddite has come to mean "anti-progress" to a lot of folks, altho that's not the original meaning, as stated by others here.

I've been accused of being a Luddite for my views on computer stuff (especially software and OS version "upgrades"). But sometimes newer and prettier (or more powerful) isn't better.

My first gear was a Kanger T3D tank on an Evod VV. I ended up buying a few extra tanks and Evods so I could swap flavors easily plus have enough battery backup to last while away from home. The only reason I bought into higher wattage stuff was to be able to use higher VG juices, which the T3D coils can't handle.

I STILL like my T3D because it's so easy and reliable and portable. And I never see much talk about them here on the forums. So call me a Luddite, I don't care -- it works for me!