Am I crazy?

[///M Dood]

Hi there, first thread here!

Quick background, I'm 3 weeks into vaping as of tomorrow (and 3 weeks into lurking on this forum). My first day of vaping was the very last day of smoking ciggies, which is excellent considering i was a smoking asthmatic for ~7 years . So far I have bought a cheapo gas station ego kit, ego twist kit, an iTaste mvp v2, various tanks and probably far too much juice considering how long i have been vaping. I'm sure many here can relate to the obsession.

Now, my question is regarding steeping. I've done a fair amount of research on the subject and it's apparent that people have their own way of doing things. The general idea i got was either cap on or off, in a closet for 1-4 weeks with occasional shaking. I also read that if you wanted to cheat the process a bit you could put your bottles in a bag and put the bag into some very hot/boiling water. So, me being as lazy and impatient as i am, i had the idea to just 'quick steep' all 25ish of my MBV bottles under a heating pad at the same time. Sounded like a great idea to me!

Well... After i tried my quick steep shenanigans i feel like ALL of my flavors have now been rendered flavorless. Can excess heat or direct heat ruin your juice? Or is this just all in my head and i am just crazy (could very well be the case).

Any how sorry for the lengthy intro thread, any words of wisdom here accepted.

Thanks

 

[Train2]

I think WARM is what you want for a speed steep - not boiling water.
But I wouldn't think a heating pad would reach temps that could wreck juice.
I'd think it MIGHT be you - "vapers tongue" is a real effect, and goes away!

It's still making good vapor? - so it's not a dead coil?

 

[The Ocelot]

Hello

It sounds like you have the dreaded (cue scary music)... Vaper's Tongue!

It's actually not a joke. When you stop smoking your taste buds can go through a lot of changes as they heal from years of abuse. I was fine for the first week or so I vaped, then bam! I couldn't taste anything other than strong mints and menthols for the next two months. Here is some info that might help (and save me from typing it )

Taste Buds and Vaper's Tongue

 

[The Ocelot]

I think WARM is what you want for a speed steep - not boiling water.
But I wouldn't think a heating pad would reach temps that could wreck juice.
I'd think it MIGHT be you - "vapers tongue" is a real effect, and goes away!

It's still making good vapor? - so it's not a dead coil?

u haz beated me but i haz a link.

 

[///M Dood]

No the juice still makes vapor, although my pt2 seemed to get the 'gurgle'. Tried cleaning it, replacing the heads, adding the beauty skirt and nothing seemed to stop the gurgle/leaking but I'll save that issue for another thread.

I tried juice from another vendor and it seemed to be somewhat dull as well based on what i read about them (yellow submarine, furry wall, guavatron and bangberry mist from jvapes).

Unfamiliar with vapers tongue though.

EDIT: between the fast responses and my slow typing i missed a couple posts. @The Ocelot I checked the link and certainly think that could be the case, so glad I won't be throwing out a ton of juice.

And thanks train2 for beating him to the post

This seems to be one of the more active forums I've been on, can't wait until i can contribute.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Wecome to ECF and congratulations on the easy transition. Took me months. If you are here, rest assured, you are crazy. Just kidding.

I haven't heard of a little heat killing the flavor but that isn't saying a lot. You tried all twenty-five or just smelled the bottles? I've had flavors that smelled great but had a significant gag factor when vaped. Others don't smell much of anything but taste great when vaped. Last summer we were on standby to evacuate for a large fire for a week. Put all my DIY flavors in the car and forgot about them. They baked at over 120 degrees for a week. They are still fine and I'm still using them. I don't recall reading anything about flavor diminishing but honestly, don't take my word for it. Heat/light will darken flavors and nicotine. Hopefully someone can give you a definitive answer soon.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Damn, can’t beat anybody with dialup. Didn’t think of vaper’s tongue though. Nice call guys.

 

[AgeAgainst]

No the juice still makes vapor, although my pt2 seemed to get the 'gurgle'. Tried cleaning it, replacing the heads, adding the beauty skirt and nothing seemed to stop the gurgle/leaking but I'll save that issue for another thread.

Unfamiliar with vapers tongue though.

Have you tried using a pipe cleaner down the center of your PT2? I tried blowing through it with the drip tip facing up, facing down. Neither would work for me until I got pipe cleaners. Worked perfectly for me.

I've experienced Vapor's tongue on a couple of flavors. I can only let you know what's helped me - Drinking LOTS of water since vaping dehydrates you and it may cause dry mouth.

What also may help you is brushing your teeth (don't forget to brush your tongue as well) and some mouthwash, followed by a glass of water, then try vaping a strong flavor.

Best of luck!

 

[///M Dood]

I didn't try all of the bottles, no. But i did however try all of my favorites that had previously tasted great. If this is just vapers tongue I'm going to take advantage of it and vape all of my less tasty flavors and let my favorites steep away until i can taste things again lol.

The bottles by no means got 'hot', which is what I was confused about.

 

[///M Dood]

As far as the pt2 is concerned, I tried everything i saw on google and boobtube. Nothing worked, I'll look into the pipe cleaner but i have another pt2, a pt2 mini, an evod and the pyrex vivi nova in the mail that should be here tomorrow.

It sucks because I loved the way the protank hit, but now I'm back on an iClear 30s, which isn't terrible either.

I'm sure the protank is probably user-error though

 

[The Ocelot]

Biotene Rinse is another thing to have in your arsenal. It's for dry mouth and is used like a a mouthwash. Biotene also comes in a liquid and gel. I use the liquid at night before I go to sleep. Vaping is dehydrating, so drinking lots of water is important, but Boitene is helpful for surface dryness.

 

[///M Dood]

Nice thanks I'll look into it for sure!

 

[Topdogie01]

vapers tongue, my favorite time to vape. i can vape my diy mistakes and not cringe at the horrid monster i created and not cry that im pouring it down the drain. lesson learned. make new diy in SMALL <5ml batches, and without nic first to see if you even like the flavor combo. 2nd lesson learned. koolada goes a LONG way. start with drops, not %s

 

[///M Dood]

Topdogie: That's a good way to look at it, eventually I want to get into diy'ing, to new at this point and mind buying the pre made stuff to find out what sort of flavors that I like.

On a totally unrelated note, given your avatar I see your into coding heh. What languages are you familiar with? I'm currently learning java and having a lot of fun with it. Vaping has helped out tremendously as far as writing code goes because instead of pulling my hair out and having a cig outside when i have a 'WHY WON'T THIS WORK', moment I just lounge back and take a couple toots off my mvp and think instead .

 

[Topdogie01]

fluent in a few, know many. lol. i started with pascal if that tells you anything?
i can pick up a new language pretty quickly, may need a few references to how some things work in the new language but for the most part it all just clicks for me. for me its not why does this not work, its more like this comic..(below) and you make like this buzzfeed... 27 Things Only Developers Will Find Funny

 

[///M Dood]

That's hilarious. I'm still brand new to the game of code (and computers as far as that goes) but so far so good i suppose. To put it in perspective I made a number guessing game last night and was pumped when it compiled and ran perfect, I'm a noob.

Do you program for a living? That's the ultimate goal here.