Am I doing this right?

[Rogue]

Being new to all this I picked up a 510, and a 901, after a few days of occasional use, both seemed to produce little vapor, so I ordered a sample pack of juice from ECiggy dot com.

Now, I am dripping 2-3 drops onto the atomizer wick of the 501 and it was a great improvement, but I'm getting a harsh throat hit with the Kamel flavor, usually I end up coughing after a good drag, is this normal? And how long is this drip usually supposed to last before needing to be redone? Also, I tried washing out the cart (with clear water) on the 901 and filling it with Vanilla juice, and it is better as well, but although it tastes ok, it seems kinda weak. Is there another way to fill either one of these into the atomizer? Or, is all the filling done only on the carts? By the way, can I drip the atty wick on the 901, without damaging the battery?

Finally, What I'm really looking for is a flavor similar to Merit ultralights my regular analog smoke, Or, something like a Winston light which I sometimes alternate with, has almost the same flavor but, is a bit stronger. If anyone has an idea of what juice that has close to these flavors, or might work better for me to try, I'd appreciate it, by the way, I noticed one company had a Winston flavor, has anyone tried that? I'm trying to dial in on these e-cigs, to give up analogs, I thought maybe I'd switch right over, but I'm not having much luck so far, it seems I keep smoking my analogs, & have to force myself to try and get used to smoking the e-cigs, Thanks Mike

 

[Keef]

Thats a lot of questions .

You should get throat hit with the 510 and the 901 this is normal.

Try take long steady drags and hold the vapour in your mouth before you inhail see if that helps.

You do need to top off the carts regular to get lots of consistent vapour especially if chain vaping.

Afraid I know diddly about dripping as I have never bothered with it apart from when I have lost my cart.

Some of the flavours are quite weak more a hint of than the full blown taste .

Afraid you are not going to get anything that is the same as a cigarette it is best to just go on a hunt for new flavours you like.

Your taste buds also will start to kick in the less you smoke, some things will improve with this new found sense and some will start to taste blooming horrible, you will wonder why you ever ate or drank them to begin with.

 

[Silence]

Being new to all this I picked up a 510, and a 901, after a few days of occasional use, both seemed to produce little vapor, so I ordered a sample pack of juice from ECiggy dot com.

Now, I am dripping 2-3 drops onto the atomizer wick of the 501 and it was a great improvement, but I'm getting a harsh throat hit with the Kamel flavor, usually I end up coughing after a good drag, is this normal? Yes, usually the higher the nicotine content, the harsher the throat hit. And how long is this drip usually supposed to last before needing to be redone? About 12- 15 hits. Also, I tried washing out the cart (with clear water) on the 901 and filling it with Vanilla juice, and it is better as well, but although it tastes ok, it seems kinda weak. Vanilla is a hard flavor to get right so far... Is there another way to fill either one of these into the atomizer? Dripping Or, is all the filling done only on the carts? Pretty much By the way, can I drip the atty wick on the 901, without damaging the battery? You can if the batteries are manual, If the batteries are automatic and you over fill the atomizer then you could damage the battery.

Finally, What I'm really looking for is a flavor similar to Merit ultralights my regular analog smoke, Or, something like a Winston light which I sometimes alternate with, has almost the same flavor but, is a bit stronger. If anyone has an idea of what juice that has close to these flavors, or might work better for me to try, I'd appreciate it, by the way, I noticed one company had a Winston flavor, has anyone tried that? I'm trying to dial in on these e-cigs, to give up analogs, I thought maybe I'd switch right over, but I'm not having much luck so far, it seems I keep smoking my analogs, & have to force myself to try and get used to smoking the e-cigs, Thanks Mike

So far I dont think anyone has found anything that tasted like what an analog tastes like when you are smoking it. I believe that the flavor is that of the tobacco pre-smoked, However there are a great deal of tasty and truly wonderful flavors out there to try. I suggest experimenting with many different flavors and finding the ones that work for you. everyone's taste on the flavors are all different. And you may very well not what others feel are the absolute best. This is a pretty personal choice.

Congrats on your decision to vape and lead a healthier lifestyle.

 

[NightShadow]

Being new to all this I picked up a 510, and a 901, after a few days of occasional use, both seemed to produce little vapor, so I ordered a sample pack of juice from ECiggy dot com. I am guessing you were using pre-filled carts here, and would point out there is a rather drastic difference between using a cart and dripping onto the atty imho.

Now, I am dripping 2-3 drops onto the atomizer wick of the 501 and it was a great improvement, but I'm getting a harsh throat hit with the Kamel flavor, usually I end up coughing after a good drag, is this normal?
I don't thave that flavor so can only say it appears it is normal for you
As you don't mention what the nic strength is, or if this is a pg or vg based liquid, this is the best answer I can give, sorry. Perhaps a different flavor, or strength (lower) liquid may be less harsh for you?

And how long is this drip usually supposed to last before needing to be redone?

This varies depending on several factors: The size of the droplets ( not all drops are equal) the length and frequency of the drags you take, the condition of the atty (new, old, broken in, etc) the power of the battery being used as more power typicaly = more vapor = more juice used faster.

Rule of thumb, when it starts to taste off, bad, or dry, drip again.

Also, I tried washing out the cart (with clear water) on the 901 and filling it with Vanilla juice, and it is better as well, but although it tastes ok, it seems kinda weak.

Vanilla is a delicate type of flavor, so imho it seeming weaker on the throat hit should be expected. Suggestions: use this for a mild vape, and something else for times you want a sound throat thrashing like the liquid you mention above. Optionally search for something in between the two if one is too mild and the other too harsh.

Is there another way to fill either one of these into the atomizer? Or, is all the filling done only on the carts?

You may wash the carts and the filling in them, dry, and reuse, or drip directly into the atty, or a combination of the 2.

By the way, can I drip the atty wick on the 901, without damaging the battery?

Generally if you have a manual battery they are safer for dripping than an auto battery as they are sealed and the juice cannot get into the battery through the hole the auto battery must have as part of its switching mechanism. Having said that people do drip with an auto battery with success, but there is still a risk of damaging the battery as it is not sealed.

Finally, What I'm really looking for is a flavor similar to Merit ultralights my regular analog smoke, Or, something like a Winston light which I sometimes alternate with, has almost the same flavor but, is a bit stronger. If anyone has an idea of what juice that has close to these flavors, or might work better for me to try, I'd appreciate it, by the way, I noticed one company had a Winston flavor, has anyone tried that? I'm trying to dial in on these e-cigs, to give up analogs, I thought maybe I'd switch right over, but I'm not having much luck so far, it seems I keep smoking my analogs, & have to force myself to try and get used to smoking the e-cigs, Thanks Mike

I can't help as far as those flavors go, sorry.

Good luck with vaping, it may take some study and experimentation to be able to switch fully from analogs to vaping.

 

[tmbrown327]

After nearly a year of only vaping, I find that trying to replicate the taste of an analog fell by the wayside long ago. Now it's all about the nicotine and as long as the taste is relatively pleasant, duplication of the analog 'taste' isn't important. I think if you picked up an analog you'd find that there never was much taste involved, as smoke isn't something most people intuitively enjoy (cigars and pipes are somewhat different), you have to learn to endure it. Vaping gives you the option to find something that actually tastes good along with your nicotine. Find a juice you like, you won't care much how it resembles cigarettes I bet.

 

[SuZamme]

I was having the challenge of getting great taste with every vape and tried the drip method. Finally, I tried the blue foam mod that is on this forum.
It is fantastic. Lasts a long time. The flavor is great. Excellent vaping experience.
Stay with this. You will hit your stride and find that mental and otherwise state that will allow you to give yourself permission to embrace vaping just because EVERY analog you choose not to smoke is a step towards being tobacco-free.

 

[AshHole]

Rogue,

I am sure some of the experts may correct me, and I welcome it if they do. I am fairly new to this as well and can only offer my experiences.

Yes you are - it sounds like you are doing it right. E-cigs do have a learning curve and adjustment from analogs, but please do not get discouraged. This is the best thing that has happened to me in a long time.

If your 510 seems harsher than previous experience it could be a few things -
not enough juice, too much nicotine, or just a harsh flavor juice.

If you have nothing to compare it to (ie: it has always been harsh) it will take some fiddling to figure out.

Sometimes the attys need to "break in" also before they reach full potential. Also some ship with a "primer fluid" that either takes time to "burn off" - but the experts here say to "blow out the atty" gently from the battery end to try and clear some of the primer fluid out..

I have one atty that is just harsh, no matter what I put in it - I think it is even harsh if I just suck air through it

Dripping time: I am a heavy vaper, and when I drip, I drip every 8-10 or so good draws. Also each atty can have different characteristics... I have one that likes 3-4 drips/8-12 draws, and one that only likes 2 drips/10-15draws.

As for carts: I find on the 510 there are 2 or 3 "mods" you should lookup. The blue foam plug mod, and the straw mod. I also like the spring mod/ADP mod but it is cumbersome for refilling. These mods both increase capacity of the cart and/or improve wicking to the atty. Different people have different results so some experimentation is in order. Your mileage may vary.

Juice: This is the sticky wicket. I went through what seems like 20-30 samples from various vendors until I found a supplier and flavor(s)/strength I enjoyed. I too sought the "analog flavor" that I smoked - and have finally given up looking for this Holy Grail. It seems as though vaporized juice just cant duplicate burnt paper and burnt adulterated vegetation.

Some flavors like vanilla are just light. Your juice vendor and their flavoring plays a big part in this.

Some people have a sensitivity to PG based juices, and can only vape VG based juices - and others are the other way around. Again trial and error.

I think the lack of my analog flavor has helped me stay away from analogs - less memories of a loved bad habit.

I recommend looking at some sampler sizes from Dawn or Drew:Welcome to NHaler! & DIY Flavor Shack by E-Cig Smoke Store
They make some awsome juices, more expensive, but very well worth it.

Also, I have learned that you should not give up on a juice until you have vaped it for quite a bit, and quite a few different times unless it just toitally disgusts you. What tastes strange at first may really grow on you.

Dripping: dripping is usually fine on most units if you have sealed batteries. Manual batteries (with a switch) are usually sealed. Auto batteries (ones that activate just by inhaling) are usually not sealed. Some users ae comfortable dripping on autos, but also know that if they "flood" the atty with too much juce, or dont vape it off it may leak down into the battery and muck up the works.

Coughing: It can be normal, but I dont think it should continue. It could be many things like drawing too muich, too hard, or juice characteristics (nic/vg/pg).
Some say that analogs have a "cough suppressant" and that ejuice doesnt. I really do not know this for sure myself. When I vape some juice - I cough. Others I dont. I will say that vaping does dry your mucous membranes and throat, and it is commonly recommended to increase your water intake.

 

[Rogue]

Thanks All for the replies, Just a few more questions.
Am I supposed to fill the atomizer, or just drip on the atomizer, and, or, just fill the factory stock cart after it's cleaned, once it's dry?

Also, do I need to buy empty atomizers, or carts to fill, or can I keep using the stock factory atomizer & carts?

 

[AshHole]

You do not fill the atomizer. You only drip on it, if you "drip". Most people when they drip use an empty cart without the filler - or "tail-pipe" it - vape without the cart.

If you use a cart - you get the filler soaked (but not puddling on top) and top it off with a few drips when the flavor starts to wane or get harsh/dry. The mods I spoke of lessen the time between these top-offs.

You wil need to buy spare atomizers, as they do fail. and spare batterys are a must with the 510.

I am still using the same carts that came with my 510 kits. I have however replaced the filler with new poly-fil/fluval.

You should read the the following - it is long - but it is a great read:
by DonDaBoomVape The Wonderful World of Vaping: An Illustrated Guide to E-cigs

 

[dreams n chains]

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so I ordered a sample pack of juice from ECiggy dot com.

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Also, I tried washing out the cart (with clear water) on the 901 and filling it with Vanilla juice, and it is better as well, but although it tastes ok, it seems kinda weak.

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Thanks Mike

Hi Mike!

Pardon me editting your post a bit... but the part I left is identicle to my experience. I am also new to vaping and have the same models you do. In my personal opinion, the problem might be the place you bought your juices from. I also ordered from ECiggy and the vanilla has no flavor to me (also the 3ml bottle was 1/3 empty)... I'm not happy with that wasted $15 at all.

The juices I had ordered from myfreedomsmoke are gooood! So good I went and ordered more... including vanilla. So I will know in about a day if other vanilla actually has taste. $30 for their sampler pack of 6 bottles loaded fully with 10ml of juice...... great price!

 

[Rogue]

Thanks Ash, & dreams,
Yes, on the 510 that's what I found myself doing, (an empty cart with juice dripped on the atty). Okay, so I guess I got it right now with both e-cigs. I need to find out more about the poly-fil/fluval?

ECiggy was good for me, at least all the bottles seeemed full, I just tried the "slow cured" on the 510 and found it's not bad, can't describe it, but kinda tasty, and not a bad throat hit. I think the "Kamel" flavor, and all the tobacco flavors from ECiggy, is 24mg nicotene, and the rest are 15mg that's probably why it's better,,, I'll have to recheck that? Thanks for the juice link.