An observation about carto longevity

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my4jewels

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I have used Capella's, Lorann, and PA, FlavourArt, and FW. After several months of diy'ing, I find that using FlavourArt and PA flavors make my cartos last the longest by far. I admit that I don't have a strong opinion about FW because I haven't used it much. I use a carto tank and Boge sr's exclusively on a VV mod. My juice usually ends up around 70%pg/30%vg.

I am modifying my flavor stash to mostly the 2 flavorings stated above. I have stopped using sucralose/Splendx/EzSweets in my mixes. Instead, I am using ethyl maltol and marshmallow flavoring only to sweeten since they are friendly to my cartos. Making the same juice, I have noticed that my cartos last much longer since I stopped using sucralose products. I have some stevia in pg, but I just didn't like it.

Has anyone been using vinegar or lemon juice long enough to notice any effect on carto longevity. I haven't tried it yet.

I am quite happy with my juices using mostly PA and FA flavorings. They're keeping me off analogs and I save tons on cartos. Just my .02.
 

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I'm still pretty new to DIY, but I'm having trouble making TPA flavors work for me. I'm gravitating towards Capella's because they seem more reliable and forgiving. I haven't noticed any effects on carto life as of yet (but it's only been a little over 2 weeks since I've started vaping home-brew juice exclusively).

Gotta go with what works.
 

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I use XL CE2's usually with all of the caps off and I can see how coils gunk up as I vape. With darker juice the coil can turn black before the first refill. With lighter juice it may take half a dozen refills to reach the same level of gunk on the coil. I have used Lorann, FlavourArt, Flavor Heaven and Flavor Apprentice. The Jury is still out because I don't have duplicates of very may flavors but it does seem like FlavorArt has the lightest juices and they gunk up the carto the least.
 

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Traver, what's Flavor Heaven? Never heard of that one.

Str8, do you use boge attys or cartos? If you use cartos I can tell you a place that sells them reaaally cheap, $4.95 a 5 pack and that's not a sale price.

Boge cartos . I get my boge cartos for 2.50/5pack . lol . I gots plenty right now but thanks

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LOL I should have known!! You're so funny Str8! LOL Yes, when buying that quantity directly from China they would be cheaper. I'm always afraid something better will be invented before I use them all, which has happened to me many times. I'm from the dark ages of e-cigs before all the cool stuff came out and still have a ton of 808 cartos that I'll never use. LOL Oh well, if there's ever a ban I'll have something to use.
 

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LOL I should have known!! You're so funny Str8! LOL Yes, when buying that quantity directly from China they would be cheaper. I'm always afraid something better will be invented before I use them all, which has happened to me many times. I'm from the dark ages of e-cigs before all the cool stuff came out and still have a ton of 808 cartos that I'll never use. LOL Oh well, if there's ever a ban I'll have something to use.

After trying lots and lots of stuff i found boge cartos to be PERFECT for me and even better they have the best QC out of any of the cartos iv tried . So far iv been through 100 or so and not one DOA or issue at all for that matter . Iv also found them to have the best and smoothest flavor . THey are unbeatable IMo .The resurrectors arnt bad either .My boges are 510's

I get mine directly from Bogetech and i received them in less than a week .
 
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After using every carto on the market I find the Gotvapes Vision Mini which holds 2.5ml's on the original fill then about 2ml's there after is the best Carto I have used to date, pure flavor with these cartos and your juice mixes really shine, none of that filler taste what so ever, they last for what seems like forever and you just clean them with hot hot water dry and keep on going. The best thing I find is there is NO reason to have to buy boxes and boxes of cartos any longer with using these Vision Mini Carrto's as well. They also have them now in a 5ml tank version !!!
 

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Completely opposite for me, I use 100% or 80% all VG and the Vision Mini works super on my Darwins ! Much better then any filler carto , no filler taste and the best flavor out of all of them,, I'm not saying the Boge isnt good, it is and so is the Iken Fusion, I just prefer non filler type Cartos anymore, and Attys even more so, especially the HH-357,,,, Just goes to show how subjective things are Str8 :) and my G-Tanks put out more flavor than anything else by the way.
 

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I began using Fluxomizers way back, and liked them so well I bought 60 or so of them. Then the new Vision Extremes came out, and I began using them; the Minis and Regulars. I have probably 20 of them. These things last so long, I probably have enough cartos to last for years. But will I quit buying? Of course not.
 

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After using every carto on the market I find the Gotvapes Vision Mini which holds 2.5ml's on the original fill then about 2ml's there after is the best Carto I have used to date, pure flavor with these cartos and your juice mixes really shine, none of that filler taste what so ever, they last for what seems like forever and you just clean them with hot hot water dry and keep on going. The best thing I find is there is NO reason to have to buy boxes and boxes of cartos any longer with using these Vision Mini Carrto's as well. They also have them now in a 5ml tank version !!!
I have to agree with you, these cartos are best for me also. I have one of them older than 2 months, I cleaned and dryburned it more than 10 times and it is still good. The only thing I had to change for better wicking was replacing silicone cap over wicks with silicon cap from mouthpiece- it gives so much better wicking.
 

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Yes, you have more experience than I, but I am homing in on FA and TPA as well. I'm using a little tobacco absolute and vape wizard (both dark in color) in my mixes, but still they are clearer than any pre-mixed juice I've bought. I haven't been mixing long, but I'm getting way better carto life than when I was just squirting Lord-knows-what into them. I'm more than happy with a week per carto; before mixing my own clear juices I was getting only a very few days.

I only have cartos, no atties, or I would try a drop of vinegar or lemon juice; I've read others mentioning this. For DIYing I really need to pick up a couple of atties for testing, just haven't gotten a round tuit.

I mixed up a variation of a recipe by Jimi last night: 1% Latakia, 1% Dark Fire, 1% Perique, 1% Vape Wizard (he spec'ed Bitter Wizard, but I didn't have that), and 1% Burley (he didn't spec that, I don't think), some TA in a PG & ethyl maltol sol'n, and some cotton candy (more EM), the last of these two thrown in on my own, not per Jimi. I have to say it is AWESOME.
 
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Not to offend anyone here, but, as the op, my intent here is to discuss the effects of various flavorings and diy mixes on carto longevity. I do realize that the type of carto you are using may apply, but there are other places to talk about suppliers and how to mod ce2's. Really, I'm not a jerk, but I am interested in my cartos lasting longer, and simply wondered if anyone else has made any observations, general or specific, on various flavoring companies and sweetners.
 
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