Anne Palmer - Liars Hall of Shame Nominee

[Nate760]

The new tobacco war; They may be safer, but could e-cigs renormalize smoking?

For the most part, it's a fairly middle-of-the-road write-up explaining the basics of vapor products and outlining the various controversies surrounding them. But things really go off the rails when Ms. Palmer (who works, unsurprisingly, as a tobacco cessation counselor) takes center stage:

“I empathize with smokers who do think they’re going to quit by using e-cigarettes, but they lose me when they tell me they quit smoking but they’re still smoking e-cigarettes,” said Anne Palmer, a smoking cessation counselor and owner of Customize Your Quit in Bend. “They’re still smoking the nicotine. They have not quit smoking. They’ve simply changed the delivery method.”

Palmer said she hasn’t had one client who’s actually quit smoking traditional cigarettes by using e-cigarettes. She says that’s because vaping continues the nicotine addiction and mimics the hand-to-mouth action of smoking.

“I understand that people are very passionate. ‘Oh yeah, I switched to e-cigs. I feel so much better.’ That’s great but these people are masters of delusion, they smoked all of those years and the only way you can continue to do that is by lying to yourself about the fact that you’re poisoning yourself 20, 30 times a day.”

Nor does she buy the harm reduction model.

“We’ve been down this road before. We’ve gone through it with menthol, we went through it with light cigarettes and then low-tar. It was all nonsense,” she said. “I think it’s wishful thinking for people to say that all of a sudden the tobacco industry has come up with a safe smoke. They’ve shown a wanton disregard for their clients and I don’t see that changing with e-cigarettes.”

Ms. Palmer's email: anne@customizeyourquit.com
Ms. Palmer's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/anne.palmer.904

 

[jwbnyc]

Well that's it then.

I guess she'd be happier if we all went back to smoking Luckys.

 

[DrMA]

Well that's it then.

I guess she'd be happier if we all went back to smoking Luckys.

She definitely would, because there's no need for her services in a world without smoking.

 

[jwbnyc]

I would argue that, with that attitude, there is no need for her services in any case.

 

[Nate760]

I would argue that, with that attitude, there is no need for her services in any case.

For my part, I can confidently state I would rather die of cancer than be aided in quitting by someone like Ms. Palmer.

 

[Tranquility Base]

Poisoning yourself she says? lol

Ask her if she uses a computer, or a cell phone, or any device with an electronic chip in it. Those things are made in Asian countries that spew tons of poison into the environment every day. And because we made these places the toilets of the world, we get cheap techno crap and use it to rant about how everyone else is killing themselves. People complain about smokers then go off and blow a noxious cloud out of the back of their car. So many hypocrites with their heads up.

 

[skoony]

The new tobacco war; They may be safer, but could e-cigs renormalize smoking?

For the most part, it's a fairly middle-of-the-road write-up explaining the basics of vapor products and outlining the various controversies surrounding them. But things really go off the rails when Ms. Palmer (who works, unsurprisingly, as a tobacco cessation counselor) takes center stage:



Ms. Palmer's email: anne@customizeyourquit.com
Ms. Palmer's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/anne.palmer.904

the doctor in charge of the smoking cessation clinic,Mayo Clinic,Rochester Minnesota
spouts the same drivel.did i mention his clinic is very,very expensive.
regards
mike

 

[Kent C]

She doesn't even get the basic understanding that even Glantz and Zeller get - that it's the tobacco smoke that kills not the nicotine.

Which makes HER the 'master of delusion' or more likely just ignorant of the actual facts. Facts that vapers and even sensible ANTZ get almost immediately.

 

[sonicdsl]

She doesn't even get the basic understanding that even Glantz and Zeller get - that it's the tobacco smoke that kills not the nicotine.

Which makes HER the 'master of delusion' or more likely just ignorant of the actual facts. Facts that vapers and even sensible ANTZ get almost immediately.

Oxymoron?

 

[Kent C]

Oxymoron?

I struggled with the adjective 'rational' didn't fit but wanted to show some recognition above what Anne obviously lacks.