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JimmyDB

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Is this a real study...?

I didn't find it in the journals, of course one of them requires a paid subscription. None of the articles I have read yet actually have the study or links to it or even a link to the journal itself.

Of course, the "story" has been picked up by LOTS AND LOTS of re-publishers who 'edit'.

So, only going on the 'articles' or 'stories' I have read... the study doesn't make sense anyway... doesn't say ANYONE was trying to quit, only involved people who used cigs and e-cigs... only involved e-cigs not APVs... seemed to eliminate anyone who did end up quitting cigs... and is obviously biased and intentionally misleading when they say things along the lines of e-cig use raised over time... well yeah, that's what we want right, more e-cig use and less cig use, but it SEEMED to get treated like a BAD thing... I have the same feeling when they bring up the kneck cancers etc... FEELS like they want me to assume it's related somehow... although the people are ALREADY cancer patients.

I guess, what I can take from this though is that someone who even AFTER they have been diagnosed with cancer, continue to smoke... there may not be much help for them. Depending on their goal, it may not even be something I would call 'help' anyway. I'm just not sure, I would need more details like were their treatments only intended to extend their life short term or what?!

I agree, it's also an old study for such a rapidly changing industry as vaping. I really wish there was a better way to separate e-cigs from vaping... but it seems the two will forever be intertwined like "beer & wine", etc.
 

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The study is being attacked by other researchers. Try this (broken) link http://www .reuters.com/article/2014/09/22/us-health-ecigarettes-cancer-idUSKCN0HH0FI20140922

For instance, second paragraph from the bottom. ""The authors followed up smokers who tried e-cigarettes but did not stop smoking, and excluded smokers who tried e-cigarettes and stopped smoking," he said." :blink:
 

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I can... it may mess up the order in which things fall as far as posts go...... Do you still want it merged?

I'll hand copy paste/quote it if needed... just say the word... and away i will go :)

The only reason I found the other one is because this one didn't have the names in it... so searching all bajillion of ECF turned up a single result... ;)
 

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Yes, please. With cherries on top
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Back to the rubbish of a study and the thousands of ditto-head articles being published (no offense Rush, well, maybe a little :evil: )

I posted a comment at Reuters... doesn't look like they are letting it in... maybe they are being over-ran with comments and it's taking a while.

That's OK... I got time :vapor: and I guess a whole slew of articles to go comment on... :D
 
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