Another unfortunate accident with a faulty batter / charger

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BuGlen

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This is another story involving a fire in a car by an e-cig (or charger) that malfunctioned allowing the battery to overcharge:

fox13now(dot)com/2013/09/21/child-burned-after-e-cigarette-explodes-in-car-charger/

I wasn't going to post about this story, but I felt it was worth while for a few reasons. First, I believe we need to keep educating people, both here on ECF and elsewhere, that battery safety is very important. E-cigs made overseas which are sold to the uninformed masses in gas stations and WalMart don't always go through the proper quality assurance, nor do they provide the appropriate safety information.

Second, we know that at some point when the ANTZ run out of medical reasons, they will be focusing on consumer safety issues such as the one reported in this story. We need to prepare ourselves with the counter argument(s), including (but not limited to) other battery operated devices which have injurious malfunctions. We've all heard the stories about cell phones, lap tops, and other consumer products having these issues with various battery configurations over the years. It might be worth while to compile a list of statistics on the percentage of malfunctions of those devices which have caused injury, and how those industries are coping with the issue.

Finally, for U.S. manufacturers of devices, it may be worth while for them to begin thinking about forming a quality standards organization. For U.S. vendors, it could be worth while making sure that they get quality control assurances in writing from the overseas manufacturers, to help protect their customers and their business. For us, as customers, we should consider insisting on getting these quality control assurances to protect ourselves, and to protect the industry on which we rely for THR.

These are just my immediate thoughts upon reading the article, and I welcome any and all comments and criticism.
 

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Someday someone will hook up their PV to a car battery.
"Boom" ... blame e-cigarettes.

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Well, they don't show the battery or charger. They mention at the end the brand is White Rhino.

White Rhino states the quoted text on their website. It is unknown if these instructions are included with the device when purchased, how long the battery was in the car, how long it was charging, if it was in the power on state, what charger was used, etc.

Batteries are composed of Lithium-ion and may get hot, explode or ignite and cause serious injury if exposed to abuse conditions. Be sure to follow the safety warnings listed below:

Do not pierce battery with any sharp instruments, step on the battery or otherwise subject it to strong impacts or shocks.

Only use provided chargers, chargers intended for other products may have varied voltages

Do not allow the battery to get wet.

Remember to shut off the battery when not in use

Always store battery in an upright position

Do not place the battery in or near fire, on stoves or other high temperature locations. Do not place the battery in direct sunlight, use or store the battery inside cars in hot weather. Doing so may cause the battery to generate heat, explode or ignite. Using the battery in this manner may also result in a loss of performance and a shortened life expectancy.

Never disassemble or modify the battery. The battery contains safety and protection devices, which, if damaged, may cause the battery to generate heat, explode or ignite.

Do not charge unattended and never over charge the battery more then 4 hours

Never use battery when charging

Never disassemble or modify the battery. The battery contains safety and protection devices, which, if damaged, may cause the battery to generate heat, explode or ignite.

Discontinue use of the battery if, while using, charging or storing the battery, the battery emits an unusual smell, feels hot, changes color or shape, or appears abnormal in any other way. If battery leaks fluid and get onto skin or in eyes, never rub affected area, rinse with water and seek medical care immediately.
 

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Well, they don't show the battery or charger. They mention at the end the brand is White Rhino.

White Rhino states the quoted text on their website. It is unknown if these instructions are included with the device when purchased, how long the battery was in the car, how long it was charging, if it was in the power on state, what charger was used, etc.

It was mentioned in the story that the user was using the proper charge equipment, but you are correct in pointing out that there was no details of evidence to back that up. Also, one of the comments on the page of the story pointed out a potential critical flaw with automatic batteries that could be the cause as well. In any case, I believe it still comes down to quality standards and maybe upgraded testing methods by the manufacturer to ensure consumer protections.

And just so I'm not misunderstood in my arguments... I'm not advocating regulation, but rather free-market organizations of manufacturers and vendors to help ensure the future of a young industry in this country.
 

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Or maybe people should stop leaving things charging in cars on hot days

And that would be part of the education campaign, and possibly part of the documentation that we might want to insist that manufacturers include.

I know that these things happen, It is tragic when it does. But there are a thousand other accidents that happen everyday and they are not picked up by the news media. It just seems that whenever something is doing some good in this country the news wants to find the downside to it.

Agreed. This is why I think it's important that we put this in context with other failures of battery operated personal devices, and the harm they have caused. Context, when coupled with truth, helps to create a broader perspective on the real issues and away from isolated incidents.
 

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Disclaimer: I'm not a MOD or Battery geek

The general public assumes chargers are chargers
and there really isn't any basic huge difference
between a car charger and a wall charger ...
They both charge batteries.

A couple years ago I was talking to a battery expert
who told me to avoid using car chargers (which are in fact
different from wall chargers) ... and if I were to use a car charger
to only leave the battery in the charger for 30 minutes at a time.

I'm not afraid to use car chargers ... However, I trust wall chargers more.
If I'm going on a long trip ... I take 5 fully charged batteries.

All batteries are not the same and all chargers are not the same.
The user must know the pros and cons and be informed and god forbid
do a little personal research to be informed ... which for the most part ... won't happen.
 
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I know that these things happen, It is tragic when it does. But there are a thousand other accidents that happen everyday and they are not picked up by the news media. It just seems that whenever something is doing some good in this country the news wants to find the downside to it.
Those stories don't forward the media's agenda

Example..one guy in DC shoots 12...media for how long, 13 in Chicago...already being pushed to the side

There is another side to....but that belongs in the outside
 

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Battery....BATTERY!!! I don heed no stenkin' battery!

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Believe it or not I rock my non regulated 5vdc ecig MORE than I do my chargeable rigs, the one I have is different from the above (in my truck with a cigarette lighter USB, and at my desk at work and home out of my computer)
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Battery....BATTERY!!! I don heed no stenkin' battery!

$5.50 Variable Voltage USB Passthrough Battery for E-Cigarette - silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
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$7.80 Variable Voltage USB Passthrough Rechargeable Electronic Cigarette at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
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Believe it or not I rock my non regulated 5vdc ecig MORE than I do my chargeable rigs, the one I have is different from the above (in my truck with a cigarette lighter USB, and at my desk at work and home out of my computer)
http://www.ahappydeal.com/product-116100.html
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Hehe I've that first mini vv passthru but in black modded to be retractable hooked up in the car. When I feel I need/want a toke I reach for it, Vape then just let go and it retracts back to its mount location. :D
 

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Funny smell, noise, and the end flying off in the pressure release is how they are supposed to come apart in the event of catastrophic failure. I'm sorry the lil guy was in range when the battery failed. Hopefully his mom will pay more attention to "keep away from children" in the future. I do have to say this report doesn't seem to be overly dramatic like some of the others we have seen. No flame thrower reference. Fire Marshall is reporting it to the CSPC just as he would any other faulty item that caused injury.

These things do fail sometimes, we all know this. It doesn't hurt to see what happens when they do. Especially when it's not over blown.
 
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