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Anthony Vapes: Joyetech Espion Infinite Mod Tech Review

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  1. Anthony_Vapes

    Anthony_Vapes Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 23, 2017
    Hi All, Anthony Vapes back here with my review of the Joyetech Espion Infinite Mod. Please see bottom for disclaimers and links.

    Introduction:
    The Joyetech Espion Infinite is the latest mod in the “espion” line of mods from long time manufacturer joyetech. This one however as they say is not like the others. The original was a small compact dual 18650 mod and the solo was a small compact single 2x700 mod. Both with a simple design and nothing flashy. The infinite puts on an LED light show like now other mod on the market. I can see it being the popular choice for raves. It has an infinity glass LED (hence the name) to really accent the lights and put on a lightshow. It’s also a bigger mod since it takes dual 2x700 batteries (21700 or 20700) and the centered 510 allows for 30mm atomizers without overhang. It’s available in 6 colors, Red, Blue, Gold, Green, Black, and Dazzling (Rainbow)

    Manufacturer's Specs:
    • Dimensions: 49.5mm x 33mm x 140.5mm
    • Centered 510 Contact Pin
    • Comfortably Fits 30mm and Smaller Tanks
    • Operating Wattage: 1.0 - 230.0W
    • Maximum Output Current: 50A
    • Temperature Control: Nickel 200 (Ni200), Titanium (Ti), Stainless Steel 316 (SS316), TCR Modes
    • Temperature Control: 100 - 315C / 200 - 600F
    • Resistance: 0.05 - 3.5ohm in Variable Wattage
    • Resistance: 0.05 - 1.5ohm in Temperature Control Mode
    • Instant Fire Speed: 0.025s
    • Tunnel Light Effects
    • 0.96" TFT Color Display Screen
    • Requires (2) High Amp 18650 or 21700 Batteries (Sold Separately)
    • Includes (2) 18650 Battery Adapter Sleeves
    • Micro USB Charging Port (Includes QC USB Cable)
    • External charger recommended for Optimal Charging
    • Maximum Charging Current: 2A
    • Firmware Upgradeable
    • Dual Circuit Protection
    • Reverse Polarity Protection
    Included in box:
    • 1x ESPION Infinite Box Mod
    • 2x 18650 battery sleeve
    • 1x QC USB cable
    • 1x Manual
    • 1x Warranty card
    • 1x Warning card
    Picture Album



    Initial Impressions and features
    When I first got this Mod, Obviously the thing that stood out the most was the LEDs and the glass on the front. It really is bright and puts on one hell of a light show if that’s your thing. Personally I like LED mods but i know many don’t so it’s probably not going to be for a lot of vapers who want something more basic. The compatibility with the Dual 2x700 batteries is a plus. There aren’t a ton of mods for that on the market currently and it comes with adapters to use 18650 as well. They centered the 510 pin which is nice and finally starting to become a trend in vaping after years of vapers asking for it, so it can handle a 30mm RTA without overhang, however you can’t go bigger due to the buttons being on the top which I don’t like at all and if your 30mm RTA bulges out a little will get in the way of adjustments. Overall though i kinda liked it for the LEDs but if LEDs aren’t your thing, you probably aren’t looking at this mod.

    Watt Mode Performance (chart and spreadsheet in picture album)
    Let’s get into some data. I ran my normal testing. Testing resistances were done at .12 , .17, .2, and .61 ohms. wattage points were max (230), 200, 150, 100, 75, 50 and 25. At .12 ohms it maxed out at 204 watts and 41 amps. For the rest of the testing it was way low at 100 or more 11-22 watts low but 100 or less 1-8 watts low. At .17 it maxed out at 197 watts. The rest of the tests again it struggled low at 100 or more 16-24 watts low at less than 100 4-12 watts low. For the .2 test it maxed out at 227 watts. For the rest of the testing it was never off by more than 2 watts. For the .61 ohm test due to the built in 9V limit of the chip the most i could set it to was 132.8 watts. At that setting it put out 140 hitting high and 9.257 volts. The rest of the testing it hit high 1-15 watts. The volts shows there is a boost circuit in the mod which is nice.

    Overall I felt the performance of this mod was not very good. Under .2 ohms the mod hit really low as much as 24 watts off. It performed really good with the .2 ohm test but was a little high with the .61 ohm test the worst of which was 15 watts off at the 50 watt setting. So not really accurate at all. As far as max specs ratings go, I found it to be pretty accurate, It’s accurately rated at 230 watts since i got 227 with the .2 test so close enough. The 9.257 volt limit shows there is a boost circuit as well and meets and exceeds the spec of the 9V programmed in the chip . They list the amp limit at 50. The most i got was 41 which is slightly above average these days for a dual battery mod and right on par with most of the dual 2x700 mods i tested but i’m not sure if this was the limit since the mod was hitting so weak anyway. Still no issues with the amp limit

    Simplified TLDR Power Performance summary
    Mod performance is not good. Mostly inaccurate. 10 of 25 test points were 10 watts or more off and as bad as 24 watts low or 15 high. Accurate rating for watts (227), Yes boost circuit. amp limit 41 which is good for a dual battery mod. Volts tested at 9.257 which passes it’s spec.

    Temperature Control Performance
    Using SS316 wire with the SS mode and TCR mode set at 00092, I tested 6 builds, 1 single round spaced, a dual round spaced, 2 fancy single coil builds and 2 fancy dual coil builds. This is one i can keep short and sweet, while at times i could get a good vape out of it, it’s wildly inconsistent. Rare to get even back to back vapes being the same. I had to fiddle around with the temp settings making changes to try and get a similar puff i just had even as much as 50-60F degrees apart. Overall it’s wildly inconsistent and an easy fail on my part.

    Other Usage Notes
    The mod uses a 5 click to turn on and off of the fire button. 3 clicks takes you to the main menu of Mode, Settings, LED, and Exit. In the modes submenu you have Power TC (SS, NI, Ti) TCR mode (M1, M2, M3) and lastly RTC (real time clock, Digital or analog). So basically your typical Joyetech Mod. In the settings menu, you can lock resistance, set your power in TC mode, turn on or off stealth mode, subpara (which lets you display your amps, puff counter, or puff timer on the main screen, set the clock, preheat (time and duration), screen time out, Info (Individual battery voltage, and FW version), and color to change the main color of the screen. Lastly is the LED menu, For the LED options you can change when it turns on (or turn it off), the brightness, the mode and the color with a ton of options. Too many to list them all but you can really customize this.

    The mod itself is mostly built solid just some minor rattle on the adjustment buttons but none on the fire button. It's also a pretty heavy mod but with a pair of 21700 batteries in it. The Battery door is your standard bottom latch that works well and is easy to get batteries in and out. The paint looks nice and doesn't scratch off, and no visible wear on mine. The fire button is nice and large and and clicky and says joyetech on it with the logo. Typical joyetech fire button but i like them. The 510 gave me no issues with any atomizer. The screen is nice and bright and colorful however a little small for the mod. They should have used a bigger one to fill the area it’s in. It’s easy to read in all lights though. My screen is also slightly tilted, not a big deal but i noticed it so i’ll mention it. The mod can handle a 30mm atomizer without overhang but is limited by the adjustment buttons on the top so you can’t put a bigger one on it and i’m not a fan of the top buttons. It also adjusts by full watt at 20 or more and .1 watts under 20. Price point is going to vary based on if you want batteries included or not and if you want the kit, but i see it around the 53 range without batteries or tank but up to 95 with it.

    Pros:
    • Build Quality
    • LED options and brightness
    • Battery compatibility (21700, 20700, 18650)
    • color options
    • Bright color screen
    • nice fire button
    • Accurately rated
    • centered 510 pin (can handle 30mm atomizers)
    • symmetrical design
    • easy to use menu system
    • pre heat option
    • good battery life for internal mod
    Cons:
    • Screen is a little small for the mod
    • top adjustment buttons
    • minor button rattle
    • power mode performance
    • temp mode performance
    Conclusion
    So with all that said, do I recommend this mod or not? I don’t like to do the yes or no, but for this i have to lean towards the no. It’s a cool mod if you like the LEDs but it fails in the most important parts which is the performance of the mod. If you like LEDs on your mod, none do it better than this one, but since it doesn't perform as it should it’s an easy one for me to pass on. No way i could put my name on it. I won’t be adding this to my sheet.

    This is Anthony Vapes just keeping it honest, hopefully you all can say the same and i’ll catch you on my next review.

    Product Disclaimer
    This product was sent to me from Joyetech

    Review Disclaimer
    Due to possible QC difference your experience may vary.

    Reviewer Disclaimer
    I’ve been doing vape reviews since late 2016 and have done around 200 reviews to date. I enjoy helping vapers on forums as well and helping contribute to the great vape community. I’m not an “out of the box” reviewer. I do my best to be thorough at all times and have enough experience with many products to tell what’s good and what’s not. All mods get tested with an oscilloscope and stress tested and results are posted in my reviews.

    Recommendations and Past Review Links
    written reviews list here

    Youtube Channel here

    Spreadhseet of Recommendations here

    Best of 2017 list here
     
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