Anti-smoking Drug Suits Filed Against Pfizer

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KDK

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Kristin... The combined power of Big Pharma and the FDA
is overwhelming. I wonder if America woke up too late.
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We are a Drug orientated society (period!)

If we have an issue and our first thought is of a drug...
We should ask why? The painful truth is that we have
been "programmed" to think first of drugs.

We are Cash Cows and the product of many years
of Big Pharma's programming (period!)

Ex-Pharma Sales Rep ... "Educate yourself"
Reference: Post #10 and #11
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning-discussions/138726-ecf-force-reckoned.html

Research doesn't mean research other drugs to determine which
might be the best drug. Research means gather the facts and
decided if even drugs should be considered.

Drug companies advertise...
When diet and exercise don't work... Take this Drug
(Big Pharma knows our diet sucks and most don't exercise)

"Ask your doctor if (fill in the blank) is right for you"
(Sue your doctor, not the drug company, if anything goes wrong)

In many cases, we are the ones that bring up drugs (by name)
when we visit the doctor. Many insist on the drugs and doctors
comply (for several reasons). Heck, many doctors simply ask
"Which drug works best for you?"

Big Pharma isn't stupid!

They know Americans would rather take a pill than "break a sweat"

We live in a "sue happy" world. If anything goes wrong... It's not our fault.
And yes I agree, there are times that law suits are appropriate and necessary.

We should question the "drug orientated system" that we live in
and our obvious "sick" Co-Dependency to Big Pharma and the FDA.

My X-wife was an alcoholic and addicted to prescriptions drugs.
I qualify as an expert on co-dependency.

Our country is sick and living in denial.

I can't even begin to count the number of people, while smoking a cigarette,
who asked me if the (Mommie) FDA approved E-cigarettes as safe.

PS: There are those that believe the FDA is doing a wonderful job
with the exception of E-cigarettes. I'm not a member of that club.
Me either. Pharma of course is all too eager to push their drugs for profit, and MD's are all too eager to write RXs for almost anything. I can't tell you how many times I have declined RXs. I think that the main thing in medical school has been, if they have this, then prescribe that. It should be, what has caused this condition, and how can the condition itself be healed. Instead, many times it's just treat the symptoms, and then give more RXs to treat the side effects of the RX given in the first place. As a retired nurse, I saw alot of this go on. Many elderly people take far too many medicines, both prescribed and OTC.
 

redsarrow

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I started taking Chantix about 6 months before it was released to the general public. It was given to me for free in a smoking cessation class sponsored by the Army (ACS). What happened to me while taking the medicine was not on the list of possible side effects and still isn't. My blood pressure went so high the ACS almost called an ambulance. Obviously I quit taking it.

Wellbutrin did nothing for me, neither did the patches. I couldn't take more than one peice of the nasty gum. But I don't think I was ready to quit when I tried all of those.
 

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The side effects of chantix were well established LONG before it went on the market, and I seriously doubt anyone has ever gotten a prescription for it without a stern talking-to from their doctor about the risks and side effect, plus an equally clear talk with their pharmacist.
This leaves me feeling like we're living on different planets. A stern talking-to from their doctor about the risks and side effects? Oh my. The yay-rah-rah speeches I heard from the docs trying to push it on me (I didn't request it) were more like, "it worked great for my relatives", "I've never heard of any problems with it", and "everyone loves it".
 

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I am shocked at the number of posts on this thread apologetic to Big Pharma when they are under threat of lawsuit! Somebody wake me up, this is ECF, right?!?!?

Geez Louise -- trying to figure out who to side with (Big Pharma or the lawyers trying to sue them) is like trying to figure out who is the bigger evil: the villain from Lord of the Rings or the villain from Harry Potter!

:pop: Just eat popcorn and let them have at each other.... after all, it's just a bunch of money floating around at the top 1% of our economy that none of us can do anything about, or grab a percentage off as it flies by, anyway. We're all just clueless or amazed spectators in this fight. The only people who could possibly be passionate about the outcome of any of this are the people who have vested interests. I hope that's not a lot of people on this forum and, statistically speaking, it couldn't possibly be.

Sorry all you people who have been prescribed these drugs as an answer for your problems, but you have been sold a bill of goods. Hate to burst the bubble folks, but all that's happened here is that Big Pharma are the new drug pushers...... who have, over the course of the last few decades, taken the market away from the hippie street vendors of the 60s and 70s, and eventually will take it away from the inner city gang-bangers of the 90s and 00's. This is raw unadulterated capitalism without morals.

Drugs = money. The 60 or 70 year old cigar-chomping Pharma executive understands this. Back in the 70s he was jealous of the street vendors getting away with so much underground money, he simply found a way to change the terminology from "drugs" to "medication" while giving Nancy Reagan the cue to demonize the street vendor with "Just Say No". The end result keeps an already HIGH population HIGH, only now with doctors and the law on their side. In other words, the SUITS are your new Tommy Chong.

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PlanetScribbles

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I am shocked at the number of posts on this thread apologetic to Big Pharma when they are under threat of lawsuit! Somebody wake me up, this is ECF, right?!?!?

I was just playing devil's advocate chip :)
I hate big pharma and the FDA as much as the next ECF member. My point was merely that out of those 1200 plaintiffs, i'd estimate that at least 20% of them just jumped on the bandwagon for the payoff just because they once took chantix and were endangered as a result. Not withstanding the fact that no harm was ever actually done to them. That doesn't deny that the lawsuit should have ever happened though.
 

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Quit-Smoking Meds Active in Brain Reward System

Two common smoking cessation medications both appear to
reduce activation in key areas of the brain associated with
cravings and rewards, researchers say. In two MRI studies,
both bupropion (Zyban, Wellbutrin) and varenicline (Chantix)
reduced activation in the ventral striatum...

Article: Click Here
 
Quit-Smoking Meds Active in Brain Reward System

Two common smoking cessation medications both appear to
reduce activation in key areas of the brain associated with
cravings and rewards, researchers say. In two MRI studies,
both bupropion (Zyban, Wellbutrin) and varenicline (Chantix)
reduced activation in the ventral striatum...

Article: Click Here

"They noted that none of the participants in the study quit smoking"
 
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