Any need for VW if I have VV?

[Lucky1384]

So I have a Provari, which I'm more than happy with, but would like a second quality mod to fall back on if necessary and maybe even see other benefits that I'm not currently getting. I know there are debates around VV and VW, and that VW offers more consistency, but would I be gaining any more than that?

I figure I would either like a hana modz V3, or if there are no mega benefits, maybe going with an MCV Panzer mech mod. I know they are completely different in every way and it's not a fair comparison between them, but I'm simply looking for a quality second mod and these two both seem excellent quality.

The 30W that the Hana can put out seems plenty, so do I gain anything more with the Panzer and a high current battery? Could the Hana give me a potentially better vape than the Provari? The main thing I like about the Panzer is just bombproof simple reliability, and the hana modz being regulated while kicking the power!

If it was your choice and you wanted a Brother to the Provari, what would you choose?

 

[d29308]

I was really hoping to see more replies. I'm in a similar situation. I have an Itazte VTR & SVD.
I wanted to get a DNA 30 device but, I'm getting frustrated with the wait. I'm debating about getting a Pro Vari instead.

So Lucky would I be happy with a Pro Vari ?

 

[bencooper74]

The only advantage of vw over vv is it does the math for you. It detects the resistance and adjust the voltage for you to equal the wattage you select.


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[PaulBHC]

If you want to try a good VW, why not an Innokin VV V3 for around $26 or MVP for around $45.

I like VW because I change toppers of different Ω a lot and by setting watts, the unit will adjust the volts for me.

 

[Steamer861]

Variable voltage is really all you need you can calculate your wattage with the resistance and voltage
see this web site it's easy Watts - volts - amps - ohms conversion calculator
say you want 10 watts enter 10 watts at 1.8 ohms hit calculate = 4.2 volts
I to would like a Hana V3 full size but there is no way I will preorder and wait for months

 

[PaulBHC]

Variable voltage is really all you need you can calculate your wattage with the resistance and voltage
see this web site it's easy Watts - volts - amps - ohms conversion calculator
say you want 10 watts enter 10 watts at 1.8 ohms hit calculate = 4.2 volts
I to would like a Hana V3 full size but there is no way I will preorder and wait for months

Oh, so my ego twist is the same as a Provari...

 

[MorpheusPA]

VW's kind of a no-brainer. You set it for the wattage you like, and it holds that no matter what resistance your atomizer is (within reasonable range). It's really handy if your atomizers tend to vary. Mine don't, but even so on a rebuild I could hit 1.8 or 2.2.

If you're already used to VV, you might find that you don't use the VW settings too much. Or you might find you prefer them. I'm so adjusted to VV that I tend to use it regardless of device--Spinner or VAMO.

 

[d29308]

So if you are using a provari vv does it auto adjust the wattage for what ever resistance atty. while maintaining the voltage that is selected?

 

[bencooper74]

So if you are using a provari vv does it auto adjust the wattage for what ever resistance atty. while maintaining the voltage that is selected?

Watts=voltsxvolts / resistance. So if you keep your voltage the same with different ohm atty's then your wattage will change.



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[MorpheusPA]

So if you are using a provari vv does it auto adjust the wattage for what ever resistance atty. while maintaining the voltage that is selected?

Yes. Like Benny said, they're related. Lock your wattage (power) in and the voltage adjusts. Lock the voltage and the wattage adjusts.

Again, within reason. The voltage may not be able to go high enough (or low enough) to give you the wattage you ask for, and vice-versa. In that case, the device usually just does the best it can.

 

[d29308]

Yes. Like Benny said, they're related. Lock your wattage (power) in and the voltage adjusts. Lock the voltage and the wattage adjusts.

Again, within reason. The voltage may not be able to go high enough (or low enough) to give you the wattage you ask for, and vice-versa. In that case, the device usually just does the best it can.

Thank you MorpheusPA that helps.

 

[spewny]

If you prefer stick mods then the SVD or vamo v5 both seem pretty nice and good prices. I prefer box mods so the VTR is great, though I have a vapor shark DNA on the way. VW is helpful IMO if you are constantly changing tanks that are not all the same resistance, but to each their own. A VW kick on a mech would achieve the same as well as regulating the voltage so, luckily, there are plenty of options to suit your taste.

 

[Lucky1384]

Thanks everyone. That's certainly made my mind up for me. I'm always doing calculations in my head regarding power anyway when I use the Provari. I tend to make one coil and stick with it for a while, and obviously using VV, the power output is always the same. I've only been using 5W on my 1.4 ohm coil, but would like to experiment with as many resistances as possible. For that reason I've ordered the MCV Panzer and a couple of Sony VTC4's so I can truly gain as much scope as possible.

I do have experience with mech mods and batteries, so know about all the safety considerations. I'll be using the mech for experiments and lower resistance coils and keeping the Provari for trouble free reliability at higher resistances. Thanks again for everyone's views

 

[p.opus]

First of all let me preface this by saying that the MVP2, hands down in my opinion is the best bang for your buck. At it's current market price you can't find a better PV. I like them so much I have two of them....

That being said, I'm not using them. I'm using my ProVari's.

Why?

The ProVari is one of the most accurate if not most accurate mods available. Most reviews will show decent accuracy of +/- .1 volt. The ProVari maintains usualy +/- .02 volts. And it DOES make a difference.

The Provari also maintains it's accuracy right up until the battery needs recharging. The MVP you begin to feel it not delivering as much as your approach 3.7 volts and below.

Variable Wattage IS very convenient. But only If you have a bunch of similar tanks. For example with my Mini Protank 2's I swore by VW because the coils on those could vary within .2 to .4 ohms of each other. This made swapping out PT's a pain.

When I moved to Kayfuns, I started building my own coils. I build strictly a 1.9 to 2.0 ohm coil and the Kayfun doesn't get changed out until it's done, so VW doesn't mean as much to me.

Also if you vape DIFFERENT styles of attys, say clearomizers, then RBA's then drippers, then VW gets you NOTHING.....7 watts on a Protank 2 is MILES away from 7 watts on a Kayfun.

So if you plan on changing tank TYPES frequently then VW gives you no advantage and you are simply changing a number at that point.

My Kayfun and ProVari's are my form of vape heaven. The MVP is the best bang for your buck, but it's not the best. The ProVari is not 4 times better than an MVP.

But it is better enough that if I have the cash, I enjoy the fact that I have a VV device that will last a long time. A company that stands behind their product and a proven design that will continue to deliver me a nice consistent vape far into the forseeable future.

And one last thing before the ProVari haters show up... (I know I used to be one).

If you keep your gear in good order and decide to leave vaping or move on to different mods, you can usually sell your ProVari easily for 60 - 80% of what you ordered it for.

That gets the price of ownership down to what some people pay for an Evic, Vamo or VTR.

 

[Lucky1384]

I know exactly what you mean with the Provari, it's the holy grail of care free vaping for me. I've learned to know exactly when to change a battery on a mech that's plenty above the minimum voltage, and I do like the satisfaction of popping a fresh battery in and suddenly it feels like your eyes will pop out That being said, with the right set up, the Provari is just so consistent I sometimes have to take a step back and realise how much is going in in there when on the surface it just feels so natural.

I've pretty much completely turned to RDA's, just playing around with tanks when I feel like it, so it sounds like VW isn't going to offer me much. Glad I went with a mech to fill the gaps that the Provari leaves (sub ohming, much higher power) and it's always good to have a nice simple back up in case the worst happens.

 

[K_Tech]

I must be the oddball in the group; I have to say that the only time I've done any sort of calculating is when I was starting out with rebuildables, and went and did a little sub-ohm cloud chasing.

I don't care that I'm having a good vape at 8.2657 watts; I just care that I'm having a good vape. Whether my device is providing that good vape by maintaining wattage or voltage is irrelevant to me. Not to mention that over the course of a day, I'll bump my voltage or wattage up and down as my vapemood changes.

 

[rrayda]

One thing I've learned over the years of using both VV (Provari, Ego twist) and VW (OG Darwin, Kicked mechs) is that my toppers definitely last longer on the VV devices. My vape is and always has been dripping on plain old 510/901 atties. It seems like the VW devices will have a split-second reading that causes it to overpower the topper and pop the coil. I still burn out coils on the VV, but it takes WAY longer. I've found that I'll get around 4 days out of an atomizer on the VW equipment while I can go 2 weeks on the VV.

So...while I prefer the consistency and convenience of VW, the economy and longevity of VV wins for me.

 

[Baditude]

If it was your choice and you wanted a Brother to the Provari, what would you choose?

Another Provari. Seriously.

So Lucky would I be happy with a Pro Vari ?

Why Provari?

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I must be the oddball in the group; I have to say that the only time I've done any sort of calculating is when I was starting out with rebuildables, and went and did a little sub-ohm cloud chasing.

I don't care that I'm having a good vape at 8.2657 watts; I just care that I'm having a good vape. Whether my device is providing that good vape by maintaining wattage or voltage is irrelevant to me. Not to mention that over the course of a day, I'll bump my voltage or wattage up and down as my vapemood changes.

And 8.2657 is actually rounded up if anyone is doing the calculations like I do...

 

[Lucky1384]

So Lucky would I be happy with a Pro Vari ?

Sorry, I missed this until I saw Baditudes post. You will be very happy with a Provari. I do like to tinker, which is why I do still like to play with a mech, but the Provari covers a lot of bases. I've been running a 1.4 ohm single micro coil in my Atomic using the Provari all week, and it is absolutely plenty for any juice. Best of all, it will work as well as it does now right until the battery is ready for a charge. You can't beat that for convenience!