any reason not to get a bulli a2 classic?

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lasttango

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So, I have been looking over rebuildables for a few weeks and I am leaning towards the bulli A2 Classic...

I have received a fair amount of advice where people suggest that I try something cheaper… to make sure I like rebuildables first…
The buy cheaper before you spend more money argument isn't important to me...

Every time I do something like this, it ends up in the classies or ebay… I am the kind of guy who would rather skip the clone and get the provari… you know? I know that is stupid to some folks… but I show more restraint and frugality in other areas of my life…

Plus I have been vaping for about 4 years and am fairly knowledgeable in many other areas of vaping… I am just very inexperienced in building things and in rebuildable atties.

I have been pretty happy vaping at a fixed 5v for years.

I just want more and cleaner vapor and more control over the experience… so whynot get into rbas?

So, outside of the argument that there are cheaper ones… could those cheaper ones offer me a better experience? Easier to maintain or build coils?

I primarily want a rebuildable for dripping… I am not interested in those plastic mouthpiece tanks… hate those… and I have a phiniac I like using already for tanks...

I really want an RBA that I can drip into - that holds a decent amount of juice with balanced airflow… quality threads, good fit and finish. I want it to be somewhat sleek rather than "wonky" looking.

…and I do want it to be able to fit on 510 or 801 threading...

So… any reason not to get a a bulli? are bulli's wonky or clunky or so small that a dude with medium to large sized hands can't built a coil? I can tie flies ;-) (flyfishing)

I just want to hear any argument outside of the price factor… or… I'd love to hear some affirmations about how smart it would be to grab one of those bullis...
 

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The Bulli A2 is a nice RDA,it was one of the first mass produced rebuildables, however it is on the long side since it was designed to take cartridges, and you will need a adapter to use a 510 driptip.
Also the 510 connector is pressed into the base and attached with a wire, which has been known to be the weak point.
Even though the materials are high quality, you would be better off getting something like a Nimbus, a Trident, or one of the vast number of RDAs available today.
 

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There are two reasons not to get one: Price and design. At the time the Bulli was a great RDA, one of the few on the market. Now it's overpriced and outdated. There are much better options that are simpler to rebuild and provide a better vape now.

If it's your first rebuildable I suggest the IGO-L. It's cheap, works well, and is a great entry into rebuildable atomizers.
 

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Hmm... the A2 Classic is not designed for catridges.
The A2-T is (those ego-tanks).

The A2 Classic works with a cotton reservoir. And it has gotten
somewhat of a revival recently on the german forums with the cotton hype...

Although you can also drip with the A2, i would also say, that you are better off with a dedicated dripper.
An IGO something... If you want more expensive... so many good options...
I went with the Trident V2 from Grand Vapor and i am happy with it.
 
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Hmm... the A2 Classic is not designed for catridges.
The A2-T is (those ego-tanks).

The A2 Classic works with a cotton reservoir. And it has gotten
somewhat of a revival recently on the german forums with the cotton hype...

Although you can also drip with the A2, i would also say, that you are better off with a dedicated dripper.
An IGO something... If you want more expensive... so many good options...
I went with the Trident V2 from Grand Vapor and i am happy with it.

The cotton reservoir is a cartridge, cartridges always had filler (I remember everyone replacing the filler in the old 510's with blue foam, or pyramid tea bags instead of poly fill)
 

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If it's your first rebuildable I suggest the IGO-L. It's cheap, works well, and is a great entry into rebuildable atomizers.

I don't understand what I am losing out on when I accept the "great entry into…" factor…

or… no one would buy the more expensive ones right?

I used to hate diy…
until I shelled out a few bucks for higher quality nic and base… now I diy 1/2 my juices.

plus I am no noob to vaping… just rba's…

so, given that… do you still feel I should get an igo? and if so… what won't a igo do that a trident or genesis does?

I am afraid I am setting myself up for a mediocre experience if I get a cheapie or a clone…
I want my initial experience to be 100%.

I feel like build quality would matter on something with this many parts… or am I wrong?
or is an igo really well built?
 

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I don't understand what I am losing out on when I accept the "great entry into…" factor…

or… no one would buy the more expensive ones right?

I used to hate diy…
until I shelled out a few bucks for higher quality nic and base… now I diy 1/2 my juices.

plus I am no noob to vaping… just rba's…

so, given that… do you still feel I should get an igo? and if so… what won't a igo do that a trident or genesis does?

I am afraid I am setting myself up for a mediocre experience if I get a cheapie or a clone…
I want my initial experience to be 100%

In the end it's really about appearance. Most of the RDAs on the market perform pretty much identically. There are difference in airhole size, adjustability, etc, but before you sink a lot of money into something you should decide if you actually like it. That's why I suggested the IGO-L. It's a solid little RDA that you can pick up pretty cheaply. Keeping it simple at the beginning helps you learn, and then you can complicate it all up later.

I don't know how you feel about clones, but there are plenty of Trident and Nimbus copies out there that are also good options. The Nimbus is my personal favorite. Solid build (though a bit heavy), works well without modification, and looks good.
 

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Lasttango, what are you going to run it on???

I sold my A-2, only to watch the guy I felt I was helping turn around and sell it for more then I let him have it for… Anyways, still have an A-2T and the larger A-2TM. They are nice atomizers, thought the 510 connection is a weak point as pointed out earlier. I have a drip tip that fits the A-2TM also, and usually if dripping with them, build a mesh wick, and it is pretty darn good. I use mine on the GP Piccolo (as it has top cap specifically for the A-2 & Line) and also a Provari mini, used to use them on egos or similar size VV batts as my out and about. But then moved into 14xxx genisis hybrid/atos for that.

If doing single coils, there is room, but not a lot to work with. I prefer a 22mm atomizer like the Patriot, Nimbus etc on a 22mm mechanical. A lot of room to work with and to hold wick material and liquids. I can drip about 20 drops into my Patriot and vape on it for a decent bit before dripping again. Plus, I can do duals etc. I usual run 2x2Ω duals, so my total resistance is ~1Ω and run it on any of my IMR batteries with no worries.

If you really want an A-2T let me know. I have a few clones, I'll send one to you and you can try it out. Not as good as the A-2 itself IMO, but gives you an idea. Still want the real thing? Could set you up there also.
 

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Hey LT, my quick suggestion, get an IGO-L and IGO-S; or if you're in the mood to read a short novel continue with my following detailed suggestions lol..

I think if you find the right form for a rebuildable dripper, you're really going to like it. I forget, are you mainly an atty or carto user?

The reason I think you'll enjoy them is how well and reliable they work (find the coil build you prefer, your juice will taste and perform the same way, every time with that build). More importantly, what a good wick and coil set-up in a rebuildable dripper does AMAZING things with the flavors you like, the light and subtle flavors. With flavors like those, you want to be able to taste all the flavors intended, and a good rebuildable will do just that.

It'll be a matter of finding a rebuildable with the form you like and then finding the material and coil style you prefer. I would recommend learning how to do a proper micro coil with cotton wick, or a mini coil with quality silica like Ekowool or German silica. For my money, minis and micros not only offer the best flavor and vapor, but are the easiest to replicate each build. If you can tie a fly, you can wrap a coil, and I'll be happy to help with material selection, coil wrapping, etc. if you want.

Finding the right form factor will be up to you. For drippers, basically two categories would be the more common side airhole design (like a 901) or the ones that get airflow from the post (like a 510).

For side airhole, like others said there's really no reason not to get the cheaper options. It's two posts, a well for juice, and an airhole; it's very simple. The expensive options work the same, they don't offer a better vape and they aren't easier to build, they just cost may look cooler and made with higher quality steel. Whether you go cheap or expensive, if you like the form you'll like the dripper, and if you don't you won't. If the form is to your liking, the quality of flavor, vapor, and throat hit will depend on the coil you build.

I don't have experience with the drippers that get airflow from the connection; but some option are the A7, Vision Eternity, and...... there's a more expensive option that looks great with a ProVari but I forget what they're called. If you absolutely loath 901 atties because they leak if the airhole points down, you'll want to go this route instead.

Finally, I'll let you know my preference in rebuildable drippers; not necessarily recommendations, just what I like. I like the side airhole design, but haven't gotten the great performance from larger drippers such as the IGO-L and Nimbus that other people get. I much prefer the same design in a small form, my personal favorites are the IGO-S, A6, Cyclone, and ERA clones. The flavor is just so much better for me. They hold less juice, about 12 drops, which is something I prefer (easier to switch flavors) but it seems more people like the bigger drippers that hold a lot more juice. A nice thing about all these is they have holes in the posts to insert your coil's legs in before screwing down.

Good luck bro! Feel free to PM me with any questions.
 

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lasttango i think everyone is right on on what they are saying as far as getting an IGO to try. they are cheap and do the job until you can vape it and get the feel for rebuilding. if you can tie flies man you can rebuild coils on small igo s lol. i used to waqtch my son try flies years ago. anyway i have been around 5 years or so and did it all like you. i just took my old Bulli A2 Classic out of hiding and back in full use cause i started dripping again. oh it feels so good to drip and how i miss it. My gennys will be waiting for a while until i drip myself away in la la land. in my Bulli i do not use thye filler i just direct drip on silica wick. i made a loop about 1/2 inch long and i saturate it and i get about 8 fantastic saturated hits of bliss. long hits. thats with my Bulli. There is another atomizer that i use but its pricy but it is a great dripper and its made for dripping. its the Dripper Spiral made by Leo. if you watch ice hockey it looks like the Stanley Cup lol. There are a few different ones but the Dripper Spiral is the cheapest 49 Euro ($68.00us). This is made so well and is totally leak free. the setup is so easy. maybe not at first. you can buy your extra coils if you want like i did but after after 2 months i started making my own at different resistances. i wont get into that. you can use variable vaolt mod or 3.7 mod or 5 v or 6 volt whatever just make sure your resistance coils match your voltage. if you need any more info feel free to pm me anytime man.
here is a link to Leo s Dripper Spiral......... THE DRIPPER SPIRAL
one last thing LT not saying you should invest right away in the Spiral listen to the guys on the post but the flavor is amazing i will say that. but if you do go ahead and buy it and u dont like it. let me know and i will buy it off you. i have 2 plan on getting each one of my kids each one and my daughter in law one so dont matter to me lol. i love the dam thing. lol best of luck LT
 

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I also agree that the Bulli series is a bit outdated.

That said, I still own and use and love a Bulli A2-T. It was my first rebuildable ever, so how could I not? :)

And at about 45 bucks from VaporCigzz, the Bulli A2 is a decently priced name-brand atomizer, I believe. The wires in the base don't even bother me much... I'm just not a fan of the brass connector.
 
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