Any reputable canadian 18650 battery vendors?

[Z-Lee]

Also, just found this:
18650 canada li ion batteries

From:
https://www.reddit.com/r/18650masterrace/comments/ewh81m/where_to_buy_genuine_cells_in_canada/

The post is a year old, but they include graphs in this post. Illumn has a better price point when buying 4 batteries, and even 6, but beyond that it's negligible. Toss some batteries in your cart and see where the better deals are.

 

[tara81]

It's not all that strange when you think about it. It's like America on Black Friday - They return their prices to MSRP and then advertise a huge % discount on something they were already selling at that price. People eat it up like it's candy.

Those Molicels you are looking at are a wonderful choice for a dual batt mod. I just bought 10 of them not long ago - you missed a huge sale at 18650BatteryStore that would have definitely offset the price to have them shipped. Oh well though, watch for new deals. Keep in mind, a single 25A battery would suggest that you don't go over 75W if you want your batteries to live the average 300-500 cycles. The closer (or over) the Max CDR you go, the hotter the battery will get, and heat is the main contributor to killing the health (cycles) of the battery. Hope this helps, happy vaping.

18650 battery store won’t ship to my province in canada.

 

[Z-Lee]

18650 battery store won’t ship to my province in canada.

Check the link right above your last reply.

 

[CloudyFutures]

no

why do they call it electric tape then?

I mean nothing is as safe as a properly wrapped battery. But is it at least safer to cover nicks with electric tape than to not cover them at all?

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

why do they call it electric tape then?

I mean nothing is as safe as a properly wrapped battery. But is it at least safer to cover nicks with electric tape than to not cover them at all?

If you read this short thread with mostly short posts, and put the questions and answers in their proper context, you will see that the recommendation to NOT use electrical tape is the only safe advice to give.

 

[smacuser]

Electrical tape can turn into a gooey mess really quick, especially when placed on the charger. Plus, if you're wrapping the entire battery, it might not fit properly into the well.

 

[Superuser187]

The next time I am gonna rewrap batteries I am gonna try use classic wires shrinkable tube...it may be thicker but I believe my mods won't have problem...
This thing is very durable and will last forever

 

[Z-Lee]

I was going to recommend a store in Canada that looked decent, but then I saw this:

 

[CloudyFutures]

I was going to recommend a store in Canada that looked decent, but then I saw this:
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I have seen this on a lot of batteries. what they don't say is the pulse time. Most of the time a 5 second pulse is advertised.

Here, they are probably advertising the 1 second pulse. Most vape batteries are capable of 100A at 1 second or less.

 

[ImJustAvg]

I have always just ordered my 18650 batteries through Amazon. Out of probably 50 batteries bought in the last 12 years, I have only had two that were DOA! Most are still working, and have powered my Eleaf 100 Watt for a very long time now. I don't do the huge mods, so don't know much about them. But Amazon has good prices and free shipment. Just make sure you are buying a flat top and not a pointed top!

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I have always just ordered my 18650 batteries through Amazon

That's a really bad idea and if you don't know why then I suggest you read and read some more in the battery section of this forum as well as what Mooch's Youtube videos, as many as you can, until the importance of battery safety and sourcing sinks in.

But you do what you want.

This thread has become a battery safety disaster thread. Everything we have been painstakingly taught and learned over the years has been thrown out the window in one 3-page thread.

These types of batteries are no laughing matter and sourcing them, as well as maintenance and safety practices, are of the utmost importance.

Good luck to you all.

 

[Hawise]

I have seen this on a lot of batteries. what they don't say is the pulse time. Most of the time a 5 second pulse is advertised.

Here, they are probably advertising the 1 second pulse. Most vape batteries are capable of 100A at 1 second or less.

A pulse rate would only be valid for about 3 nanoseconds. As far as the battery is concerned, using it for one second is a one-second continuous discharge.

There's an iron-clad rule concerning pulse ratings: Ignore them, as they're based on a complete failure to understand battery function. If you'd like a more thorough explanation, check out this video from our worthy battery guru, Mooch:
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[Hawise]

I have always just ordered my 18650 batteries through Amazon. Out of probably 50 batteries bought in the last 12 years, I have only had two that were DOA! Most are still working, and have powered my Eleaf 100 Watt for a very long time now. I don't do the huge mods, so don't know much about them. But Amazon has good prices and free shipment. Just make sure you are buying a flat top and not a pointed top!

While you might not have received many that were DOA, you've probably received an awful lot that were counterfeits and whose ratings were grossly inaccurate. It's pure luck if they've worked acceptably and not caused any problems or even injuries. Unfortunately, Amazon, eBay, Alibaba and places like that are simply not reliable sources of batteries.

For the future, you might want to check out Mooch's recommended vendors list, at the bottom of this page: Index | E-Cigarette Forum. The prices are as good as you'll find anyway, especially if you hit a sale, and you really reduce your risk of winding up with a counterfeit.

 

[ImJustAvg]

I have always used the Samsung Green 18650 batteries, and never had one issue with them. And Amazon is the cheapest source for them. When I bought a couple of the Samsung greens from a local vape shop, they were different from the ones I had bought through Amazon, so thought I was receiving fakes through Amazon, Wrong, the local vape store was selling the fakes! So returned them and got my money back. The Samsung Greens were on the recommended list when I bought them. So how am I messing up? And for your information I am an electrical engineer and test all my batteries and devices before I use them.

I even weigh them and compare against a known real Samsung Green, just to make sure! One fake weighed more, the other weighed less, but the ones I have all weigh very very close to the standard.

 

[Hawise]

I have always used the Samsung Green 18650 batteries, and never had one issue with them. And Amazon is the cheapest source for them. When I bought a couple of the Samsung greens from a local vape shop, they were different from the ones I had bought through Amazon, so thought I was receiving fakes through Amazon, Wrong, the local vape store was selling the fakes! So returned them and got my money back. The Samsung Greens were on the recommended list when I bought them. So how am I messing up?

Most likely, both were counterfeit. You'll notice a distinct lack of 'local vape shops' on the list I linked to, for the same reason Amazon isn't there.

Batteries are in high demand, so counterfeits are common. Battery manufacturers don't sell directly to vapers or any sources that provide vapers with batteries, so the supply chains are a mess. Counterfeits are not only abundant, they're hard to avoid - the best-intentioned vape shops and Amazon sellers (and dedicated battery stores) can easily end up with them. The places Mooch recommends aren't immune to them, but they tend to have more reliable supply chains and many spot check their batteries for expected performance (note that the equipment needed to do the type of testing Mooch does is incredibly expensive, and testing is often destructive, so it's not really possible for any supplier to exhaustively check all their batteries). The shops on the 'reliable vendors' list also have a history of alerting people who've purchased batteries from a batch later shown to be questionable. That's why they're reliable.

Amazon may be a few dollars cheaper. The reliable vendors are several times safer (or at least, less unsafe).

 

[ImJustAvg]

Although not cheap, the
SKYRC MC3000 UNIVERSAL BATTERY CHARGER & ANALYZER
(16)
Regular price

$99.99

Is a very good charger and analyzer. And you can usually tell a fake from the real deal if you know how to properly use it. Back when I was still working for Martin Marietta, designing ELINT systems for the military, I attended all the trade shows/conventions, and received a box of Samsung 25R 18650 batteries directly from Samsung at one of those shows. So those have always been my standard I test against!

 

[CloudyFutures]

I use to sell fake Sony VTCs on Amazon. $15 dollars a piece and they went like hotcakes. Only like 1% of customers realized they were fake and sent them back for a refund.

 

[smacuser]

I use to sell fake Sony VTCs on Amazon. $15 dollars a piece and they went like hotcakes. Only like 1% of customers realized they were fake and sent them back for a refund.

That's awesome.

 

[zoiDman]

I use to sell fake Sony VTCs on Amazon. $15 dollars a piece and they went like hotcakes. Only like 1% of customers realized they were fake and sent them back for a refund.

Why am I Not Surprised?

 

[CloudyFutures]

Why am I Not Surprised?

That's awesome.

Guys, I realized what I was doing was morally wrong. So I stopped after I sold my first batch of 500 batteries.