Anybody else drop from HV to 3.7v after discovering the Ody?

[Torqueguy]

I was a hard core 7.4v vaper for the last year. I used to run dual coil carto loaded with almost pure PG. that was the only thing that could satisfy me.
I got my first Ody in early January and I ran it on 3-4ohm coils. The flavor was incredible as was the throat hit but as time went by and I started mastering coil making, I started experimenting with 1.4-1.7ohm coils and realized that the Ody brought out flavor and produced throat hit that I had never before experienced in low voltage.

It seems like everyday I learn something new about the Ody.

 

[keighles]

I was using a 6.4 volt with 4.5 ohm set up with my iatty. After I got my ODY, I am now using either a 1.9ohm single coil or a 1.7 ohm dual at 3.7volt setup. I am more than satisfied with the ODY's performance. I have tried HV coils in the ODY and I feel that using the ODY at 3.7 has yielded much better results.

But I do like to experiment with different setups. Always open to suggestions.

 

[FunkyVapes]

I did so with the iAtty.

I used to vape HV in my GGTS, usually 510 Atties, but 3ohm cartos were awesome too. Got the iAtty and 3.7V was good again. Traded the iAtty for a UFS (essentially) Back to 3.7V. Now I traded the UFS for an Ody which should be in Monday and I can't wait.

 

[martinc]

Somehow I never got around using my Ody,too strong,way too strong.

Shoved a shortened CE2 core in it last night and I love it again.

Is it too good?

 

[FunkyVapes]

Somehow I never got around using my Ody,too strong,way too strong.

Shoved a shortened CE2 core in it last night and I love it again.

Is it too good?

I can't wait til mine gets in Monday. By too strong do you mean too much vapor and throat hit? I sure hope so.

I'm still a bit confused about the relationship between length and thickness of the resistance coil vs. it's total resistance, but hopefully I should be able to resolve all that with a multimeter. I would kill if I could knock out a 1.4 ohm coil. The best I was ever able to do on my iAtty was like 2.6

So, the higher the gauge on the AWG scale, the thinner the wire is, and thus the lower resistance you are able to get from the same length of coil?

Or have a fudged something up?

 

[martinc]

Depends,you can try winding a lot of little loops or just 2-3,depending on the gauge too!

I had a discussion recently with a member nad we tought the bigger gauge would be better flavor-wise,but several lil loops would retain a bit more gunk,maybe catching more flavor?

Anyways,my problem with Ody was flavor quality;no matter what juice I poured in,it was verging on awefull...all the time...except GRBC whisps and atomic flavors.

 

[Blargh23]

I can't wait til mine gets in Monday. By too strong do you mean too much vapor and throat hit? I sure hope so.

I'm still a bit confused about the relationship between length and thickness of the resistance coil vs. it's total resistance, but hopefully I should be able to resolve all that with a multimeter. I would kill if I could knock out a 1.4 ohm coil. The best I was ever able to do on my iAtty was like 2.6

So, the higher the gauge on the AWG scale, the thinner the wire is, and thus the lower resistance you are able to get from the same length of coil?

Or have a fudged something up?

The smaller the size, the more resistance.

Just a quick example from a random supplier:

34 Gauge .0063" Diam. (0.16mm) 17.01 ohms per foot resistance
40 Gauge .00314" Diam. (0.079mm) 70.24 ohms per foot resistance

So, go up a size or two (-2 or -4 AWG) from whatever got you the 2.6.

 

[Poppa D]

I used my AVS all-mods on my Buzz with IKV HV attys at 6 volts. The UFS & iAtty with my GGTS with stacked batteries.
Now the Ody, its top shelf at 1.3 - 1.4 ohms at low voltage. I use a 510 ceramic inside of the Ody ceramic which makes a difference to.

 

[FunkyVapes]

The smaller the size, the more resistance.

Just a quick example from a random supplier:

34 Gauge .0063" Diam. (0.16mm) 17.01 ohms per foot resistance
40 Gauge .00314" Diam. (0.079mm) 70.24 ohms per foot resistance

So, go up a size or two (+2 or +4 AWG) from whatever got you the 2.6.

Thanks dude, guess I had it backwards. Things make much more sense now

 

[MrKrinkle]

Repost from an older thread...

I dont think its expressed clearly for people the real differences between LV & HV.... LV is running a single 3.7v battery and HV by stacking batteries usually 3.0v or 3.7v batteries... I myself find that it really comes down to the ohm's of the atomizer coil.... the biggest benefit to HV vaping IMO is the ease and shortness of drag needed to produce a rich thick vaper and the closest thing to an analog... Please keep in mind I have only done this with stacked 3.7v using a 2.5 & 3ohm Dual Coil XL Cartomizer & iAtty also at 2.5 to 3ohm's and honestly liked it best with fresh charged batteries pushing 8.4v @ 3ohms...

The downside to HV vaping in my opinion is that it mutes the flavor of your e-juice... now with a fresh built iAtty coil @ 3.7v keep in mind 4.2v freshly charged I find that 1.25 to 1.5ohm produce similar results to HV vaping as I described earlier but does require a little more effort in the drag or pull @ 3.7v but the flavor is more dominant again this is my findings thus far...

To simplify more voltage is going to make your coil hotter faster... now lots of factors come into play here when it comes to your atomizer of choice be it atomizers, cartomizers or rebuildables and it comes down to ohm's and your preference if you like a hot or cooler vape.... theoretically the cooler the vape the more flavor from the juice... now hotter means more throat hit and feel which is where LV 1.25 to 1.5ohm at 3.7v to 4.2v is almost the same as 2.5 to 3.0ohm @ 7.4v to 8.4v the biggest difference being the ease of getting a lung full of vaper....

I like both ways and both work for me... So my advice to simplify is find what OHM you like at 3.7v to 4.2v then when you decide to try HV vaping simply double the ohm of the coil you use... for me its between 1.25ohm & 1.5ohm @ 3.7v and for HV vaping its 2.5 to 3ohm @ 7.4v to 8.4v....

I hope this helps people new to vaping to choose a jump off point for themselves as with all the options we have it can get real confusing real fast....

My battery of choice is the AW IMR 18350 batteries because they are great alone or stacked for the GGTS... I feel that for our vaping needs and the demands we place on our batteries the HIGH DRAIN is the most effective, consistent and reliable battery available at this time...

Now that I have my ODY's I like to use the dual coil 0.9ohm between 4.2v & 3.7v using my short wick method and find this to be the best vape for me at least until Imeo builds the next best mouse trap...

 

[Mosin_Sergei]

Very rightly said my friend, MrKrinkle
Everyone has to find himself, or for yourself ...

 

[Blargh23]

Thanks dude, guess I had it backwards. Things make much more sense now

And I got the +2/+4 part wrong, going up in size would be -2/-4 to the gauge number -- edited my post accordingly.

 

[FunkyVapes]

And I got the +2/+4 part wrong, going up in size would be -2/-4 to the gauge number -- edited my post accordingly.

Oh now I am royally confused, haha.

up in size as in AWG or diameter? Did you mean the smaller the gauge the lower resistance or the smaller the diameter the lower the resistance?

 

[Blargh23]

Oh now I am royally confused, haha.

up in size as in AWG or diameter? Did you mean the smaller the gauge the lower resistance or the smaller the diameter the lower the resistance?

I'm getting myself confused, apparently.

Smaller real diameter = more resistance = higher AWG number.
or vice versa:
Larger real diameter = less resistance = lower AWG number.

So, to get less resistance, you want larger wire, which means a lower AWG number.

Here's a chart, probably more straightforward than my addled ramblings:
http://hotwirefoamcutterinfo.com/Hot_Wire_Foam_Cutter_Info/_NiChromeData_files/2_Resistance.jpg

For example, if you're starting with 32, which is 10.0 ohm/foot, but want a slightly lower, then switch to 30, which will give you 6.5 ohm/foot.

 

[fright88]

Oh now I am royally confused, haha.

up in size as in AWG or diameter? Did you mean the smaller the gauge the lower resistance or the smaller the diameter the lower the resistance?

Just remember
more length on any given resistance wire means more resistance.
thinner wire gives you more resistance at a given length. So a .15mm wire at 1 inch will give more resistance theb a .2mm wire
in AWG higher number means thinner
thicker wire takes longer to heat up

 

[CaptSteve]

Guys the best way to remember this is the garden hose example.

A thin garden hose is going to give more pressure (resistance) since the water has to accelerate for a given volume to pass through. Conversely a thicker garden hose will have lesser pressure (resistance) as the flow will not need to accelerate for a given volume. It's the same for wires, for a given length the thinner the wire the higher the resistance

 

[FunkyVapes]

A big thumbs-up to CaptSteve, Fright and Blargh. Now I finally understand everything.


P.S. I think we should have a GG general thread like Lavacorps and PIF and such so we can just chit-chat.

 

[martinc]

There is a res wire chart somewhere on this site...I tought I had it saved somewhere (probably have) but just cant find it

 

[martinc]

Well,lil googling...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...el-power-worksheet-voltage-vs-resistance.html

Resistance Wire.Com | Nickel Chrome, Nickel Copper, and Iron Chrome Aluminum Alloys from Stock


Bit of info while at it:

Nichrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-mods/23608-coil-wire-data.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/256317-confused-again.html

How to check resistance with a multi-meter

Nichrome Wire

 

[FunkyVapes]

Well,lil googling...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...el-power-worksheet-voltage-vs-resistance.html

Resistance Wire.Com | Nickel Chrome, Nickel Copper, and Iron Chrome Aluminum Alloys from Stock


Bit of info while at it:

Nichrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/atomizer-mods/23608-coil-wire-data.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/256317-confused-again.html

How to check resistance with a multi-meter

Nichrome Wire

Oh lawdy, looks like I've got some reading to do.