...and I must say they are as clean as the driven snow now, like when they were new! I had some Casablanca in there and it made the MaxxFusion cart very discolored. I also noticed that a lot black particles were loosened up and came out during the soak which lasted about an hour. I rinsed them more thoroughly than usual and dried them in a sealed container full of instant rice (my usual routine). I loaded it up with a straight menthol and didn't get a hint of bleach taste/odor, just pure clean menthol!
Anybody ever use bleach to clean their carts for reuse? I just did...
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I would be wary of it too, but let us know how it goes after you've done it for a while.
You know what, you're right. Probably better to just not, you know?
I guess you're all probably right, but, dammit, it works so well getting the stains out of my Fruit-of-the-Looms!
What happens if you inhale bleach??? From Yahoo answers
"Well, bleach contains a stabilized form of chlorine. This means that the following effects can occur (You've just inhaled household levels, however - which means that you'll be a - ok - however, if you experience any of these symptoms, you should call a doctor immediately).
* Immediately or shortly after exposure to 30 ppm or more of chlorine gas, a person may have chest pain, vomiting, coughing, difficulty breathing, or excess fluid in their lungs. Exposure to 430 ppm in air for 30 minutes will cause death.
* The health effects of breathing air that has less than 30 ppm of chlorine are the same as listed below for inhaling liquid bleach vapors.
* Liquid chlorine bleach and its vapors (at levels of 3-6 ppm in air) are irritating to eyes. At levels of 15 ppm in air people experience nose and throat irritation. Touching liquid chlorine bleach can cause skin irritation. Drinking levels over 4 ppm can cause throat and stomach irritation, nausea and vomiting."
Quoted from DHS.Wisconsin
"Well, bleach contains a stabilized form of chlorine. This means that the following effects can occur (You've just inhaled household levels, however - which means that you'll be a - ok - however, if you experience any of these symptoms, you should call a doctor immediately).
* Immediately or shortly after exposure to 30 ppm or more of chlorine gas, a person may have chest pain, vomiting, coughing, difficulty breathing, or excess fluid in their lungs. Exposure to 430 ppm in air for 30 minutes will cause death.
* The health effects of breathing air that has less than 30 ppm of chlorine are the same as listed below for inhaling liquid bleach vapors.
* Liquid chlorine bleach and its vapors (at levels of 3-6 ppm in air) are irritating to eyes. At levels of 15 ppm in air people experience nose and throat irritation. Touching liquid chlorine bleach can cause skin irritation. Drinking levels over 4 ppm can cause throat and stomach irritation, nausea and vomiting."
Quoted from DHS.Wisconsin
Yes Chlorine will always leave behind a residue. Your menthol is prolly masking the taste/smell
Well, if some chlorine residue did get left behind, it couldn't have been very much. I rinsed the hell out of that carto in the hottest water I could stand, then I soaked it and rinsed it again!
As an aquarium hobbits, and member of my local aquarium club, I can tell you that bleach mixed with water will totally become inert after a 24 hour sitting time. This is the only chemical we use to clean our tanks, as the others leave behind toxic residue. If I remember correctly, the chemical bond breaks when dry. Many coffee aficionados do the same to their equipment. Soap is NEVER used. I know my espresso machines has guidelines for cleaning which say when the recommended cleaner is not available a % of chlorine bleach in water can be used instead. We frothe and inhale the vapor from the arm, so I can't see it being toxic if this is so-
BUT I've never done it, cause if anyone can screw it up, it's me. I imagine you could look it up and verify.
On a side note- ive washed baby blankets in heavy bleach , dried them, and put the back on the bed. I don't know a baby yet I haven't seen suck on it's blanket at one point or another.
BUT I've never done it, cause if anyone can screw it up, it's me. I imagine you could look it up and verify.
On a side note- ive washed baby blankets in heavy bleach , dried them, and put the back on the bed. I don't know a baby yet I haven't seen suck on it's blanket at one point or another.
Wow...I would really advise you not to do that again! I don't intend to sound rude or harsh but I'm just in shock. I understand and have tried to clean a carto really well to get a flavor out of it but I would never use clorox. Next time, take a few minutes and do some research prior. I'm not advising what to use but there are many people with excellent knowledge on here to help guide you and to keep you safe. I won't clean a carto or anything else with anything that I wouldn't drink and i would never drink bleach...please don't take this the wrong way, as a lecture or a put down! First and foremost, I am a nurse and safety is my #1 priority! Knowledge is power and research is key! We are all in this together and it's a big family...family is always there to support, guide and mentor! 
http://www.thecloroxcompany.com/products/msds/bleach/cloroxregularbleach0809_.pdf
http://www.thecloroxcompany.com/products/msds/bleach/cloroxregularbleach0809_.pdf
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Actually, bleach is not only regularly and widely used as a disinfectant, it is Recommended as a disinfectant, by many, many agencies. It is the first item recommended to disinfect drinking water,after boiling, as a matter of fact, by practically every disaster management plan out there. One example:
http://ndep.nv.gov/bsdw/docs/disinfect_drinking_water.pdf
HOW TO DISINFECT DRINKING WATER
1. Boil water vigorously for 2 to 5 minutes, or
2. Disinfect water using common unscented liquid household bleach. Read the label
for instructions or use the instructions below:
A. Use 2 drops liquid bleach per quart of water.
B. Mix thoroughly and allow to stand for 30 minutes before using.
C. Water should have a slight chlorine odor-if not, add one more drop of
liquid bleach.
Note: For larger quantities of water, see the chart below:
Using common unscented liquid bleach (5% solution)
Another:
http://www.scchealth.org/docs/ph/ph_docs/pdfs/disinfecting_well_051107.pdf
Water of uncertain bacteriological quality should be disinfected
before used for drinking or in food preparation. Boiling water will
kill disease-producing organisms that may be present, but boiling
large quantities of water is inconvenient and impractical. It is
usually more practical to disinfect a water supply with an oxidizing
agent such as chlorine.
There are several commercial products that may be used for
disinfection water. These include dry chlorinated lime (also called
bleaching powder), household bleaches such as Clorox or Purex
and calcium hypochlorite compounds such as HTH, Perochloron or
B-K Powder.
The amount of chlorine compound required to make water safe
varies according to both quality and amount of water to be
treated. The general rule is to add enough disinfectant to give the
water a distinct chlorine odor and taste. The odor and taste will
disappear within a few days following treatment.
Another:
Cleaning and disinfecting child care practices
Recipe for Bleach Disinfecting Solution
(For use in bathrooms, diapering areas, etc.)
1/4 cup bleach
1 gallon of cool water
OR
1 tablespoon bleach
1 quart cool water
Add the household bleach (5.25%
sodium hypochlorite) to the water.
Recipe for Weaker
Bleach Disinfecting Solution
(For use on toys, eating utensils, etc.)
1 tablespoon bleach
1 gallon cool water
The list could go on like that for a long, long time. Google disinfecting water bleach. I have had a water well for most of my life, and the standard is to add bleach to the well for disinfection. Emergency directions for storing water in case of emergency tells you to add the recommended amount of bleach to any water you want to store that did not come sealed. Etc. etc. Like many other things in life, just because too much is toxic does not mean that the right amount is not beneficial.
http://ndep.nv.gov/bsdw/docs/disinfect_drinking_water.pdf
HOW TO DISINFECT DRINKING WATER
1. Boil water vigorously for 2 to 5 minutes, or
2. Disinfect water using common unscented liquid household bleach. Read the label
for instructions or use the instructions below:
A. Use 2 drops liquid bleach per quart of water.
B. Mix thoroughly and allow to stand for 30 minutes before using.
C. Water should have a slight chlorine odor-if not, add one more drop of
liquid bleach.
Note: For larger quantities of water, see the chart below:
Using common unscented liquid bleach (5% solution)
Another:
http://www.scchealth.org/docs/ph/ph_docs/pdfs/disinfecting_well_051107.pdf
Water of uncertain bacteriological quality should be disinfected
before used for drinking or in food preparation. Boiling water will
kill disease-producing organisms that may be present, but boiling
large quantities of water is inconvenient and impractical. It is
usually more practical to disinfect a water supply with an oxidizing
agent such as chlorine.
There are several commercial products that may be used for
disinfection water. These include dry chlorinated lime (also called
bleaching powder), household bleaches such as Clorox or Purex
and calcium hypochlorite compounds such as HTH, Perochloron or
B-K Powder.
The amount of chlorine compound required to make water safe
varies according to both quality and amount of water to be
treated. The general rule is to add enough disinfectant to give the
water a distinct chlorine odor and taste. The odor and taste will
disappear within a few days following treatment.
Another:
Cleaning and disinfecting child care practices
Recipe for Bleach Disinfecting Solution
(For use in bathrooms, diapering areas, etc.)
1/4 cup bleach
1 gallon of cool water
OR
1 tablespoon bleach
1 quart cool water
Add the household bleach (5.25%
sodium hypochlorite) to the water.
Recipe for Weaker
Bleach Disinfecting Solution
(For use on toys, eating utensils, etc.)
1 tablespoon bleach
1 gallon cool water
The list could go on like that for a long, long time. Google disinfecting water bleach. I have had a water well for most of my life, and the standard is to add bleach to the well for disinfection. Emergency directions for storing water in case of emergency tells you to add the recommended amount of bleach to any water you want to store that did not come sealed. Etc. etc. Like many other things in life, just because too much is toxic does not mean that the right amount is not beneficial.
I understand where you are coming from BUT if you notice, in your post everything for putting bleach in water involves BOILING the water. The OP stated "soaking and cleaning with very hot water". Plus, since a pv heat to send heated water vapor, that may or may not moisten any bleach particles that could be inhaled, correct or maybe not but that's a chance I wouldn't want a friend or anyone for that matter to try without any research. Boiling is the key and I have not seen that mentioned in the OP.
I have had water wells and after hurricanes we have had to boil water (not fun!) and add bleach but I quadruple check the amount that must be added. Case in point the first part of your post states "2 drops per quart of water to boil". I just don't want anyone to hurt themselves.
Um...that would be no. Read just a bit more closely:
1. Boil water vigorously for 2 to 5 minutes, or 2. Disinfect water using common unscented liquid household bleach. Read the label
for instructions or use the instructions below:
Boiling water will
kill disease-producing organisms that may be present, but boiling
large quantities of water is inconvenient and impractical. It is
usually more practical to disinfect a water supply with an oxidizing
agent such as chlorine.
Recipe for Weaker
Bleach Disinfecting Solution
(For use on toys, eating utensils, etc.)
1 tablespoon bleach
1 gallon cool water
Not quite sure where you saw the sentence "2 drops per quart of water to boil"...Boiling is the first choice, but many things cannot or should not be boiled. In those instances, substituting the recommended amount of bleach mixed with water is perfectly acceptable and will not harm you.
Please do not take my word for it. Google it and you can read the 1,000's of guideline recommendations from many, many reputable agencies and health organizations.
There are a lot of things to worry about putting in your body, as WE are all well aware, but this is not one of them, used correctly.
1. Boil water vigorously for 2 to 5 minutes, or 2. Disinfect water using common unscented liquid household bleach. Read the label
for instructions or use the instructions below:
Boiling water will
kill disease-producing organisms that may be present, but boiling
large quantities of water is inconvenient and impractical. It is
usually more practical to disinfect a water supply with an oxidizing
agent such as chlorine.
Recipe for Weaker
Bleach Disinfecting Solution
(For use on toys, eating utensils, etc.)
1 tablespoon bleach
1 gallon cool water
Not quite sure where you saw the sentence "2 drops per quart of water to boil"...Boiling is the first choice, but many things cannot or should not be boiled. In those instances, substituting the recommended amount of bleach mixed with water is perfectly acceptable and will not harm you.
Please do not take my word for it. Google it and you can read the 1,000's of guideline recommendations from many, many reputable agencies and health organizations.
There are a lot of things to worry about putting in your body, as WE are all well aware, but this is not one of them, used correctly.
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Is anyone else seeing the resemblance to the the anti nicotine propaganda we see so often here? I'm afraid of it, so you shouldnt try it type of thing?
As with our beloved TOXIC nicotine, there is a right way and a wrong way. Caution and EDUCATION are the key. Sorry to rant, but somethings just need to be put out there. No harm meant, no bad feelings.
As with our beloved TOXIC nicotine, there is a right way and a wrong way. Caution and EDUCATION are the key. Sorry to rant, but somethings just need to be put out there. No harm meant, no bad feelings.
I wasn't trying to argue or rant and not saying that anyone said I did I just wanted to note that in case it seemed like I did. I simply wanted to point out ratios and boiling but sometimes people are thinking at different spectrums and that's ok. As a CARDIAC ICU Nurse and years of expierence of giving nebulizer/breathing treatments and teaching their proper use, I was simply giving my educated opinion. Take it as you will.
Have a great day everyone...no more posts from me on this thread...
I just wanted to note that in case it seemed like I did. I simply wanted to point out ratios and boiling but sometimes people are thinking at different spectrums and that's ok. As a CARDIAC ICU Nurse and years of expierence of giving nebulizer/breathing treatments and teaching their proper use, I was simply giving my educated opinion. Take it as you will. Have a great day everyone...no more posts from me on this thread...
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