I wanted to buy the RBA for my v12 prince tank but I really want the silicone pad for a single coil build so I can make 30-40w coils. It seems that smok doesn't include the silicone cover for the airport with all of them and I really want to be able to build my own lower wattage single coils. I'm just very confused and allot of sellers don't seem to include any information about what's in the box with the RBA.
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To my knowledge there is no single coil adapter. Just build to smaller coils to compensate.
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I've just ordered one, I figured I could always try to make my own cover/pad if I find the dual coil setup is too much for me. I was wondering what tools I would need but I might just build on it and then order tools I feel like I need to make it easier. I already have the basics (like Tweezers, wire clippers etc since I do allot of work with electricals. Tools for doing wiring and soldering), I just don't have any specialised tools for coil building.
Also, This is the pad smok seems to be very intent on not supplying
Also, This is the pad smok seems to be very intent on not supplying
The TFV lines design ethic is based around maximum vapor production. No single coil adapter is inline with that. As suggested use two coils and turn down the wattage.
I'm using the included coils currently at 65-70w, I can't believe how easy it was to align and wick to be honest. I've got some kanthal A1 wire in the post and already have a build planned out for a dual coil that should hopefully produce vapour around 35-45w. I've been watching videos constantly about how to do it though and also read allot of forums about issues people run into with this RBA and how they sorted them. I never expect to be able to put something together that doesn't leak but also wicks nicely on the first try though! I'm quite excited to see what winding coils is like.
I have a question about a basic build, which is better, a triple twisted wire coil or rolling 3 wires to make each coil? It seems the triple rolled coil would have more surface area in contact with the wick, the only issue I can think of is that they will move independently once the jig is removed. The twisted coil might be a little tricky to twist together but once it is it should be easier to work with?
Hello @Mikes1992. Do you have a drill, a pair of pliers or two turtle/mole grips.
As for making the best twisted wire, you know when it's done properly when it snaps when it's twisted.
As in if you're doing a two strand variety, the loop at one end should snap.
Could we ask what gauges you have at your disposal? As we may well be able to come up with some ideas.
As for making the best twisted wire, you know when it's done properly when it snaps when it's twisted.
As in if you're doing a two strand variety, the loop at one end should snap.
Could we ask what gauges you have at your disposal? As we may well be able to come up with some ideas.
32 and 26 gauge. The Claptons that came with the head had way too much thermal mass for me, the ramp up was extremely slow, I just feel like I'm missing out on the flavour of the clapton now. I know how to twist wires. I was more wondering which would be better for flavour and/or vapour, wrapping 3 wires around the jig to make a triple wired coil or twisting the 3 wires into a single twisted strand and then wrapping the coil. I'm going to double check my estimates using the 32g wire, I may increase it to 4 as I think the resistance of 3 is more around 27g instead of 26g.
I have made a build that uses just the 26 gauge, and it met my target of 0.4ohms 35-45w. My only issue is that the flavour isn't as present as it was with the clapton coils.
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2 twisted strands of 32 would be better than using a single strand of 26, and as you're using 2 coils you divide the resistance of a coil by 2.
How many wraps have you tried so far @Mikes1992? As that has an effect, more surface area and heat capacity.
The heat capacity is very useful as it affects the ramp up time and also affects the heat of the vape, also cooldown time as well.
How many wraps have you tried so far @Mikes1992? As that has an effect, more surface area and heat capacity.
The heat capacity is very useful as it affects the ramp up time and also affects the heat of the vape, also cooldown time as well.
Twisting shortens the resulting wire for coil making.
And using 2 coils you halve the resistance of 1 coil, that's the way that it works.
Plus that twisted coil looks nothing like the decent one I've recently made and am using in my Taifun GT 4 clone.
That was done using some 26AWG (0.40mm) SS316L. It's 2 strands twisted properly, 6 wraps at 3mm ID and reads about 0.37 ohms.
Smaller ID will also decrease the resistance, as will heavier gauge wire.
But you have to try things to find out what works and doesn't work, the tools on steam-engine.org will only give you a rough idea at best.
And using 2 coils you halve the resistance of 1 coil, that's the way that it works.
Plus that twisted coil looks nothing like the decent one I've recently made and am using in my Taifun GT 4 clone.
That was done using some 26AWG (0.40mm) SS316L. It's 2 strands twisted properly, 6 wraps at 3mm ID and reads about 0.37 ohms.
Smaller ID will also decrease the resistance, as will heavier gauge wire.
But you have to try things to find out what works and doesn't work, the tools on steam-engine.org will only give you a rough idea at best.
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I purchased the rba deck last month and no silicone pad was included, I've not used it yet as I have some stock coils to get through but looking at the deck it's pretty small so I'll go with some premade Clapton Clapton ss316 at 0.25 ohm, should get about 0.13 ohms with a dual build and ramp up time should be good.
I've gone with a triple parallel dual coil, I probably would have done a quad parallel but aligning the 3 parallel coils was hard enough, I'm sure a triple twisted would have been much easier but the triple parallel seems to have really good flavour atm. By smoks logic of the "10" coil T10 (5x duel parallel) I've just made a 6 coil build xD... The T10 was horrible Tbh, the wicking was extremely bad. With 5 separate wicks 4 coils might get juice but it always seems to guarantee you'll get a dry hit on at least 1 of the coils at some point while using it.
I've not made a parallel coil yet, might try when I decide to use the rba deck.
Been using the 0.47ohm 6 wrap 32g triple parallel dual coil today (18 wraps if you count all of them on the triple). The flavour is exquisite and there is absolutely zero spits from the coil, I've never had a coil taste this good. I'm tempted to buy some thinner gauge wire and see how far you can go xD. I think my next experimental build will probably be a twisted wire in a dual parallel config. I'm going to use this coil till the taste starts to degrade. Not sure how long a DIY coil will last, I can get upto a month from stock coils on my Odan and the V12 though.
Also, those pictures aren't things I've made. They was just pictures from Google images because I wanted to know the difference in performance between parallel and twisted. I'm new to building coils, I'm already very familiar with ohms law as I've done allot of work with electronics. It seems the possibilities are endless for coil building to be honest xD
Also, those pictures aren't things I've made. They was just pictures from Google images because I wanted to know the difference in performance between parallel and twisted. I'm new to building coils, I'm already very familiar with ohms law as I've done allot of work with electronics. It seems the possibilities are endless for coil building to be honest xD
It's nice to have a background in electronics, winding coils is pretty much the same as winding chokes for radio transmitters, I get lazy and use premade every now and then.
"Not sure how long a DIY coil will last, I can get upto a month from stock coils on my Odan and the V12 though."
I get about 3 weeks with a stock coil in my fireluke and mesh pro but diy is different, I get 4 to 5 days from the wick before it needs changing, the coils can last for ages, when they need rewicking I take the old wick out then pulse the coil to burn the gunk off and clean with a small wire brush that's made for cleaning coils then I give the deck a good bath, dry it and rewick.
It all depends on the coil, the size of the coil and the type of cotton you use, bigger id coils the wick tends to last longer.
I get about 3 weeks with a stock coil in my fireluke and mesh pro but diy is different, I get 4 to 5 days from the wick before it needs changing, the coils can last for ages, when they need rewicking I take the old wick out then pulse the coil to burn the gunk off and clean with a small wire brush that's made for cleaning coils then I give the deck a good bath, dry it and rewick.
It all depends on the coil, the size of the coil and the type of cotton you use, bigger id coils the wick tends to last longer.
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I agree. The DIY coils should last a long long time. I am on day 4 of my TV12 RBA and I expect the wick to last at least a month and the coils maybe a year or so. If it wasn't for having to clean the coils once in a while I'm sure the wick would last longer yet, but I'm not into re-using the old wick.
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