Anybody Using A Kabuki?

[NotSoMini]

I would be very interested in those .7 ohm coils. I would like to be able to go mechanical with my Kabuki's but the 1.6 ohm coils don't cut it for me any more. I've found that I really like 13 - 14 watts with a regulated device now... LOL

You will not be able to use your Kabuki 510 with the nano 0.7 ohm coils. I have not tried swapping out the pin on the Nautilus coil with that of the nano coil to see if it works. Not sure that I will even try due to the cost of the coils and not wanting to ruin a nano coil. If the cost goes down, I would be willing to try. If you want to try it other than my local B&M the only other place that sells the nano coils that I am aware of is on the MilspecIndustry website. Other than that you would need a Kabuki v1.5.

I am vaping at 3.6V on my ProVari P3 registering 16.8W. I find the flavor better than the Nautilus coils. Even though it is a subohm coil, it is not true subohm vaping. I never changed the airflow on the Kabuki, still have the same MTL vaping style I like and continue to use my MHM drip tips. No airflow wide open, no wide bore drip tip and no high wattage.

 

[newyork13]

Why not just get a Calix V2 Nano RBA with P3 base byLeo? or do what I do, and forget the virtues of the P3 base and just use the 510 adapters and you can use anything you want on your provaris.

I'm a fan of byLeo, and use and love the Calix Pico (which is a 510 connection) on my Radius, though I do prefer the "heft" of a P3 connection.
So, basically I'm in agreement with you.
For me, while I appreciate the ease of prebuilt coils, even though the flavor is just a bit inferior to manmade (me made, LOL) coils/wicks, I would just like to know that my Kabuki tanks won't be trash if the regulations really put a damper on availability of items such as coils. Thus, a decent rebuildable atomizer for the Kabuki would be grand. byLeo makes a delightful atomizer named Sophia which is a breeze to rebuild and which fits happily into tanks. Pity that something similar isn't in the cards for the Kabuki tank.

 

[Yonjuro]

I guess, it is really just identifying why people want a RBA deck for the Kabuki?

The Kabuki was designed to provide maximum flavour from pre-made drop in coils. Basically flavour with minimal fuss. It is essentially an MTL atty designed for low wattage. I don't believe it was ever designed with the concept of it being future-proof or to cater for all vape preferences.

So is the desire for a build deck for the kabuki born from a need to keep using this same tank forever once the prebuilt coils are no longer available?

Will people use a micro build deck simply because it fits the Kabuki?

I can absolutely understand this, if this want is for financial reasons, but I don't believe for a second that you will get a better vape by using an add on deck to this atty, than by using a purpose built RTA.

Small chamber, short chimney and tight draw is what this type of atty is all about. Small size will mean small amount of juice. There are a number of RTAs out there that will fit this bill very well. You will probably find top fill and easier adjustable airflow in the same package.

As I said previously, I can understand budgetary reasons for wanting the Kabuki to be FDA-proof but I just think that converting this tank, is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole ;-)

With most tools or appliances, there comes a time when replacement parts are simply not made anymore for old models. Yep it's a bummer, but that is the reality of design and manufacturing.

Hopefully Zen has something planned as a worthwhile replacement for the kabuki in the near future - I would be very surprised if he didn't already have a prototype

... and well done for anyone that got to the end of that waffle

 

[DPLongo22]

Thanks, @NotSoMini (for the link), and @tearose50 (for the heads-up). At $5.83 per box (including shipping), I just added 10 months or so to the timeline.

Effective tomorrow night, my consumption of both should will drop semi-dramatically, so I'm guessing that I'll be OK for a while. It's still good to know that I don't need to worry for a coupla months.

And no, I am NOT going to freeze-pack them. If they go, they go. I'll deal...

Now, I'm done buying stuff.

Really.



(shut-up, @Katdarling)

 

[NotSoMini]

Thanks, @NotSoMini (for the link), and @tearose50 (for the heads-up). At $5.83 per box (including shipping), I just added 10 months or so to the timeline.

Effective tomorrow night, my consumption of both should will drop semi-dramatically, so I'm guessing that I'll be OK for a while. It's still good to know that I don't need to worry for a coupla months.

And no, I am NOT going to freeze-pack them. If they go, they go. I'll deal...


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Now, I'm done buying stuff.

Really.



(shut-up, @Katdarling)

I don’t keep a spreadsheet although I have a good idea how many Nautilus coils I have. My supply will last me a good six years and possibly longer at the rate I use them so I did not partake in the wonderful ecig sale. I am not concerned they will go bad. I have some Aspire BVC that I have had for years and years. I tried a few several months ago and it was still good. Suspect I will use them more now since I recently purchased an Anyvape CeroTank.

 

[classwife]

Thanks, @NotSoMini (for the link), and @tearose50 (for the heads-up). At $5.83 per box (including shipping), I just added 10 months or so to the timeline.

Effective tomorrow night, my consumption of both should will drop semi-dramatically, so I'm guessing that I'll be OK for a while. It's still good to know that I don't need to worry for a coupla months.

And no, I am NOT going to freeze-pack them. If they go, they go. I'll deal...


View attachment 608203

Now, I'm done buying stuff.

Really.



(shut-up, @Katdarling)

I have looked several times and I don't see any

 

[Katdarling]

Ms. Classiness,

If anyone needs Nautilus coils, http://www.ecig.com is having a 25% off sale with code FLASH25. Looks like he only has the 1.6 ohms — no 1.8 if it matters to anyone.

I would be very interested in those .7 ohm coils. I would like to be able to go mechanical with my Kabuki's but the 1.6 ohm coils don't cut it for me any more. I've found that I really like 13 - 14 watts with a regulated device now... LOL

HIGH WATTAGE VAPER!!!!!

 

[Katdarling]

So all this (excellent) conversation about the add on deck, the possible demise of the Nautilus coils, etc., got me to thinking.

My thought is not a great one tho, as it would entail the retooling/reworking/redesigning of the Kabuki, so it's not probable, but could be possible.

All any of us would need is a Kabuki that could take a rebuildable coil. An EASY rebuildable coil. A NO BRAINER rebuildable coil. (Sorry, that leaves YOU out, VVVWTFVWhatevs)

And I have just the coil in mind.......

Love this coil, oh yes I do! (dayum! I miss the 'Browski!)

 

[coldgin96]

With most tools or appliances, there comes a time when replacement parts are simply not made anymore for old models.

Lifetime Warranty. As long as I have coils, Zen is in business and I'm still alive, I'll hold him to it...

 

[PLANofMAN]

I figured I would repost this from another thread. This is my review of the FastTech Titanium Kabuki atomizers. For people who don't like to read lengthy reviews, the short version is I don't recommend these particular clones.

So I got the Titanium Kabuki clone versions in a few days ago, and after putting them through a tank or two, I'm ready to review them.

The Pros:
They are titanium, other than the 510 adapter.
The glass tanks are finished very nicely, with a nice rounded fire glaze on the edges.
Threading is nice.
Comes with replacement air flow control screw, plastic atomizer base, two replacement sets of silicone o-rings, extra drip tip, and extra replacement o-rings for the drip tip.
The blue/stainless driptip is actually pretty nice.
(Edit: also comes with a clear plastic tank as well)

The Cons:
The most glaringly obvious is that on all three tanks, the P3 threading didn't work on a ProVari's P3 connection. The ProVari's P3 to 510 connector was able to screw into the Kabuki clone's 510 adapter, so I'm not sure what the issue is. I suspect they used the right threading, but didn't cut the threads deeply enough.
The airflow screw hole is sloppily countersunk, and the screw is somewhat loose fitting.
The drip tip hole is very slightly oversized, which could be a pro or a con. Regular drip tips will fit, but so will the few drip tips I have that work on less than 5% of the tanks and drippers I've used over the years. (Including the atmistique ProVari inspired V1 driptip which doesn't fit much of anything, which is why it was a V1 version).
The white drip tip is roughly finished, and the o-rings have a tendency to pop out when fitting the drip tip. I can't see someone actually wanting to use that drip tip.

Final conclusion:
If this had been built as a native 510 threaded atomizer, it would be a "good buy," but since it was built as a P3 atomizer with the 510 as an afterthought, it only adds extra height to the tank for no obvious added benefit.

Bottom line, it's only worth buying for spare parts, or if you really need a 510 adapter for an existing P3 threaded authentic Kabuki.

The weight savings is not enough to offset or justify the extra height required by this atomizer over other full stainless Kabuki clones, in my opinion.

 

[Katdarling]

PoM, I like long reviews and I can not lie.

Yours is excellent. Thank you.

 

[newyork13]

So all this (excellent) conversation about the add on deck, the possible demise of the Nautilus coils, etc., got me to thinking.

My thought is not a great one tho, as it would entail the retooling/reworking/redesigning of the Kabuki, so it's not probable, but could be possible.

All any of us would need is a Kabuki that could take a rebuildable coil. An EASY rebuildable coil. A NO BRAINER rebuildable coil. (Sorry, that leaves YOU out, VVVWTFVWhatevs)

And I have just the coil in mind.......

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Love this coil, oh yes I do! (dayum! I miss the 'Browski!)

Yes, I love that coil too. What is it?

 

[Katdarling]

Yes, I love that coil too. What is it?

The CLR (Joyetech).

 

[newyork13]

I guess, it is really just identifying why people want a RBA deck for the Kabuki?

The Kabuki was designed to provide maximum flavour from pre-made drop in coils. Basically flavour with minimal fuss. It is essentially an MTL atty designed for low wattage. I don't believe it was ever designed with the concept of it being future-proof or to cater for all vape preferences.

So is the desire for a build deck for the kabuki born from a need to keep using this same tank forever once the prebuilt coils are no longer available?

Will people use a micro build deck simply because it fits the Kabuki?

I can absolutely understand this, if this want is for financial reasons, but I don't believe for a second that you will get a better vape by using an add on deck to this atty, than by using a purpose built RTA.

Small chamber, short chimney and tight draw is what this type of atty is all about. Small size will mean small amount of juice. There are a number of RTAs out there that will fit this bill very well. You will probably find top fill and easier adjustable airflow in the same package.

As I said previously, I can understand budgetary reasons for wanting the Kabuki to be FDA-proof but I just think that converting this tank, is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole ;-)

With most tools or appliances, there comes a time when replacement parts are simply not made anymore for old models. Yep it's a bummer, but that is the reality of design and manufacturing.

Hopefully Zen has something planned as a worthwhile replacement for the kabuki in the near future - I would be very surprised if he didn't already have a prototype

... and well done for anyone that got to the end of that waffle

You're quite right in everything you say. I suppose.
But,
given the fact that the Kabuki's are not cheap, and given the fact that times have changed with possibly damaging regulations affecting parts availability,
I would love protection of my expenditure. These weren't throwaway Chinese copies.
If availability of coils were guaranteed for some reasonable time into the future, I'd be uninterested in a rebuildable for the Kabuki, and simply use it with Aspire coils alongside my rebuildable attys, as I do today.
It may not be possible due to engineering constraints to have a rebuildable atty that is user friendly and pleasing. But, I'm not convinced.
Yup, that wasn't the intent of the device. But, that's not to say it is impossible. There certainly is a market for it.

 

[ENAUD]

You're quite right in everything you say. I suppose.
But,
given the fact that the Kabuki's are not cheap, and given the fact that times have changed with possibly damaging regulations affecting parts availability,
I would love protection of my expenditure. These weren't throwaway Chinese copies.
If availability of coils were guaranteed for some reasonable time into the future, I'd be uninterested in a rebuildable for the Kabuki, and simply use it with Aspire coils alongside my rebuildable attys, as I do today.
It may not be possible due to engineering constraints to have a rebuildable atty that is user friendly and pleasing. But, I'm not convinced.
Yup, that wasn't the intent of the device. But, that's not to say it is impossible. There certainly is a market for it.

Yup, I bought my Kabuki's for convenience and when I blow through my couple hundred Nauti coils in four or five years, maybe longer, I'll consider them money well spent and enjoyed...they may wind up with the rebuildable deck on occasion, but I've got plenty of other atties to build and vape. Actually, I've gone back to mostly dripping around the house, and my disposable coils are lasting a lot longer than they used to, i'll never run out of dripper atties or RBA tanks in my lifetime, so no worries for me about future proofing my vape # Federales can kiss my derriere

 

[NotSoMini]

I have looked several times and I don't see any

If you haven't already found them, you need to enter - nautilus coils - in the search bar.

 

[Yonjuro]

You're quite right in everything you say. I suppose.
But,
given the fact that the Kabuki's are not cheap, and given the fact that times have changed with possibly damaging regulations affecting parts availability,
I would love protection of my expenditure. These weren't throwaway Chinese copies.
If availability of coils were guaranteed for some reasonable time into the future, I'd be uninterested in a rebuildable for the Kabuki, and simply use it with Aspire coils alongside my rebuildable attys, as I do today.
It may not be possible due to engineering constraints to have a rebuildable atty that is user friendly and pleasing. But, I'm not convinced.
Yup, that wasn't the intent of the device. But, that's not to say it is impossible. There certainly is a market for it.

Oh I hear ya Definitely not a cheap or throwaway item, especially when you buy them in Aussie dollars, which I have done twice.

I think the challenge in turning this into a dual purpose atty, is that the Kabuki uses the coil to connect to the power source. Essentially the Aspire coil is the "non adjustable 510 pin" for lack of a better description.

So this really means that we are pretty well reliant on the current coil size build deck - at least to my non-engineering mind. That and the fixed chimney design.

I have no doubt that someone (Zen) could make a higher quality RBA deck but you will still need patience, a steady hand and good eyesight to build it.

 

[GeekyGeezer]

Oh I hear ya Definitely not a cheap or throwaway item, especially when you buy them in Aussie dollars, which I have done twice.

I think the challenge in turning this into a dual purpose atty, is that the Kabuki uses the coil to connect to the power source. Essentially the Aspire coil is the "non adjustable 510 pin" for lack of a better description.

So this really means that we are pretty well reliant on the current coil size build deck - at least to my non-engineering mind. That and the fixed chimney design.

I have no doubt that someone (Zen) could make a higher quality RBA deck but you will still need patience, a steady hand and good eyesight to build it.

I think for it to work it would have to be a completely different base which would thread onto the current chimney. Since the chimney is so narrow (which produces that amazing flavor imo) it's going to be a real feat to get two posts in there.

But if it ever happens, I'm pretty sure it won't be from Zen. He's been very clear that his vision of vaping does not include any fiddling or construction. Since his main objective is harm reduction I think his entire focus is on converting smokers. Yes, the Kabuki is pricey but considering the materials, machine work, and USA origin I don't see any way it wouldn't be.

Like others here, the prospect of not being able to get/high cost for Nautilus coils finally made me learn to build. Since doing so, I've found other atties which approach or equal the Kabuki for flavor.

It's a very strange place to be. I'm a dedicated supporter of everything Mike has ever done, but with the landscape changing so radically my requirements are changing with it. The extensive delay of the Pro (and the inexcusable lack of updates) doesn't help either.

 

[DPLongo22]

He's been very clear that his vision of vaping does not include any fiddling or construction.

Not counting the Z-Atty-Pro though, ya?

 

[AstroTurf]

Not counting the Z-Atty-Pro though, ya?

The MOST FIDDLY on the market thing...


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