Anybody Using A Kabuki?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Jim-

GCS E (1) + V (1) + M (1) = 3
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 18, 2013
1,329
5,811
Los Angeles County, Ca. USA
Hey I read through 312 pages and I just ordered a Kabuki P3 for my Radius :) . I hope it is as good as everyone says. Pretty hard to get products from HOH in Germany.

You will not be sorry. In regards to ease of use and flavor it's my #1 go to at the moment. And although a few nautical miles may separate you, the customer service folks at HoH are top notch!

Grats and happy vaping[emoji485]


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

tyleris12

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
May 23, 2010
10,367
15,820
Michigan
Question for any of the Kabuki 510 users here....hoping someone can help....does anyone know what size the small allen screw in the bottom of the Kabuki is? I want to order a bag of them, as I lost one & want to be sure to have spares. I know I can buy the kit with one on HOH site, but as I said, want to buy a bag of them. Thanks in advance!! :)
 

GeekyGeezer

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 14, 2015
626
4,274
Flyover Central
Question for any of the Kabuki 510 users here....hoping someone can help....does anyone know what size the small allen screw in the bottom of the Kabuki is? I want to order a bag of them, as I lost one & want to be sure to have spares. I know I can buy the kit with one on HOH site, but as I said, want to buy a bag of them. Thanks in advance!! :)

I thank you whole-heartedly for not using the term "grub screw". That always confused me even after having decades in maintenance, manufacturing, and R&D.

I ran across a statement (yes, on the net so who knows) that grub screw is the term used in England and perhaps Europe. How it reached over here is a mystery to me.

For those pedants like me, the correct term is "set screw". To be absolutely precise, "allen headed set screw".

Grouchy rant over. I"m sometimes amazed at the miniscule things that annoy me. :(
 

rbrylawski

Sir Rod - MOL
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 11, 2014
8,211
34,162
Tampa, FL
I thank you whole-heartedly for not using the term "grub screw". That always confused me even after having decades in maintenance, manufacturing, and R&D.

I ran across a statement (yes, on the net so who knows) that grub screw is the term used in England and perhaps Europe. How it reached over here is a mystery to me.

For those pedants like me, the correct term is "set screw". To be absolutely precise, "allen headed set screw".

Grouchy rant over. I"m sometimes amazed at the miniscule things that annoy me. :(

And all this time, I thought it was a Hex nut or the wrench was called a hex wrench? Live and learn........
 

tyleris12

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
May 23, 2010
10,367
15,820
Michigan
I thank you whole-heartedly for not using the term "grub screw". That always confused me even after having decades in maintenance, manufacturing, and R&D.

I ran across a statement (yes, on the net so who knows) that grub screw is the term used in England and perhaps Europe. How it reached over here is a mystery to me.

For those pedants like me, the correct term is "set screw". To be absolutely precise, "allen headed set screw".

Grouchy rant over. I"m sometimes amazed at the miniscule things that annoy me. :(
Allen headed set screw is correct, as my boss, the maintenance manager just informed me. ;) At least I was close, right? :)
 

ENAUD

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 23, 2013
9,810
64,089
Bordertown of ProVariland and REOville
Allen headed set screw is correct, as my boss, the maintenance manager just informed me. ;) At least I was close, right? :)
I just checked mine, it's a 1.5mm wrench you need for your socket set screw.
Annnd :facepalm::facepalm: I misread your first post, I don't have a way of checking the thread and pitch of these screws, Zen sells them in a bag of 5 on his site though.https://squareup.com/market/houseofhybrids
 
Last edited:

GeekyGeezer

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 14, 2015
626
4,274
Flyover Central
And all this time, I thought it was a Hex nut or the wrench was called a hex wrench? Live and learn........

It depends on where the shape is. A hex nut's head has an external hex, and the hex wrench fits it.

On the allen type, the shape is recessed or internal. Obviously there must be a means of turning the item and the only difference is where the hex is formed. So depending on the fastener configuration you'd use either a hex wrench or an allen wrench to drive it.

I guess there actually was a Mr. Allen, and also Mr. Phillips who changed the shape of the driven area on a screw from a straight line to a cross pattern. Mr. Torx never existed nor did Mr. Posidrive, the setup where the tip of a Phillips is flat and not pointed. I understand that Posidrive came into existence when the patent on the Phillips expired and the makers wanted to continue their royalties.
 

rbrylawski

Sir Rod - MOL
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 11, 2014
8,211
34,162
Tampa, FL
It depends on where the shape is. A hex nut's head has an external hex, and the hex wrench fits it.

On the allen type, the shape is recessed or internal. Obviously there must be a means of turning the item and the only difference is where the hex is formed. So depending on the fastener configuration you'd use either a hex wrench or an allen wrench to drive it.

I guess there actually was a Mr. Allen, and also Mr. Phillips who changed the shape of the driven area on a screw from a straight line to a cross pattern. Mr. Torx never existed nor did Mr. Posidrive, the setup where the tip of a Phillips is flat and not pointed. I understand that Posidrive came into existence when the patent on the Phillips expired and the makers wanted to continue their royalties.

Actually, very interesting! Thanks!
 

AstroTurf

Happy to be... Not Smoking!!!
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 27, 2014
11,385
48,543
Happy to be... Not Smoking!!!
I thank you whole-heartedly for not using the term "grub screw". That always confused me even after having decades in maintenance, manufacturing, and R&D.

I ran across a statement (yes, on the net so who knows) that grub screw is the term used in England and perhaps Europe. How it reached over here is a mystery to me.

For those pedants like me, the correct term is "set screw". To be absolutely precise, "allen headed set screw".

Grouchy rant over. I"m sometimes amazed at the miniscule things that annoy me. :(
Grub Screws were brought over on the MayFlower by Rats...

LOLz, Jim
 

tyleris12

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
May 23, 2010
10,367
15,820
Michigan
I just checked mine, it's a 1.5mm wrench you need for your socket set screw.
Annnd :facepalm::facepalm: I misread your first post, I don't have a way of checking the thread and pitch of these screws, Zen sells them in a bag of 5 on his site though.https://squareup.com/market/houseofhybrids
Thanks, I did just see those on his site. Might go that way if I can't get the exact size. I do purchasing here at our plant, so get good deals & free shipping, so was hoping to just order a big bag of them. Then I could share! :)
 

coldgin96

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 22, 2012
3,202
19,383
North of Detroit, way south of Heaven
Way back in the day, I ran a tool & die crib for a large chemical company. I was told "Allen" is a brand name and the correct term is actually hex head screw or hex head wrench. Don't shoot the messenger, just repeating what I was told.
 

rbrylawski

Sir Rod - MOL
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 11, 2014
8,211
34,162
Tampa, FL
Way back in the day, I ran a tool & die crib for a large chemical company. I was told "Allen" is a brand name and the correct term is actually hex head screw or hex head wrench. Don't shoot the messenger, just repeating what I was told.

You made me go check Wikipedia and this is what I learned:

Allen (brand)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Allen

Owner Apex Tool Group
Country Hartford, Connecticut, USA
Introduced 1910
Previous owners Allen Manufacturing Company, Danaher Corporation
Tagline "We are the Original!"
Website www.allenhex.com
Allen is a brand of hand tools, most widely known for its eponymous hex key wrenches. It is owned by Apex Tool Group.[1][2]



Contents
[hide]


History[edit]
Originally named Allen Manufacturing Company,[3] the business produced hexagonal set screws and wrenches to fasten them. The terms "Allen wrench" and "Allen key" are derived from the Allen brand name and refer to the generic product category "hex keys."

W.G. Allen filed the first related patent in 1909 for hex-driven safety screws.[4] Prior to this recess driven fastener style, the driving end of fasteners tended to protrude out from machinery and create a safety hazard.

Apex Tool Group currently manufactures Allen-branded products in Dallas, Texas and Shanghai, China. They are made in L-key, folding, and T-handle styles.
 
Hi guys, lurker with a question here. Due to the rave reviews I'd read in this thread, I bought a MBV Kabuki 510 from their online store last week. It arrived in good time and all was great for the first couple of tanks, but then I noticed that the coil was practically dropping straight into the chimney when I was assembling it, rather than making solid contact and threading in a as usual. On the next fill, the base and coil would not tighten at all and just continued to spin. Only reason I could still vape it was because the bottom o-ring was tight enough to hold the tank together.

My first assumption was that the upper thread on the supplied coil had somehow stripped, so today I went out and bought a new pack of Aspire BVC coils. Same story -- the coil will go into the chimney much further than it should before the threads engage and although I did manage to get the base snugged up with the new coil, I can tell it's only just engaged and would start spinning if I gave it more than a gentle tweak.

So it seems to me that the chimney thread of the Kabuki itself has been machined fractionally over-sized. I am in mechanical maintenance and work with threaded components on a daily basis, so I'm 100% certain that I didn't cross-thread anything during assembly. Even if I had, I would think that the 316 SS thread of the chimney would come out the winner against the coil threads.

Long story, but I just wanted to check if anyone else had experienced this before I start return proceedings with MBV? I've seen lots of posts about the coil getting stuck in the chimney, but none about the issue I'm experiencing. I'm gutted, because it's as good as you all said and I don't want to be without one.

EDIT -- I'm on a project in Louisiana at the moment, which is why I didn't order from the U.K. vendor
 

ENAUD

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 23, 2013
9,810
64,089
Bordertown of ProVariland and REOville
Hi guys, lurker with a question here. Due to the rave reviews I'd read in this thread, I bought a MBV Kabuki 510 from their online store last week. It arrived in good time and all was great for the first couple of tanks, but then I noticed that the coil was practically dropping straight into the chimney when I was assembling it, rather than making solid contact and threading in a as usual. On the next fill, the base and coil would not tighten at all and just continued to spin. Only reason I could still vape it was because the bottom o-ring was tight enough to hold the tank together.

My first assumption was that the upper thread on the supplied coil had somehow stripped, so today I went out and bought a new pack of Aspire BVC coils. Same story -- the coil will go into the chimney much further than it should before the threads engage and although I did manage to get the base snugged up with the new coil, I can tell it's only just engaged and would start spinning if I gave it more than a gentle tweak.

So it seems to me that the chimney thread of the Kabuki itself has been machined fractionally over-sized. I am in mechanical maintenance and work with threaded components on a daily basis, so I'm 100% certain that I didn't cross-thread anything during assembly. Even if I had, I would think that the 316 SS thread of the chimney would come out the winner against the coil threads.

Long story, but I just wanted to check if anyone else had experienced this before I start return proceedings with MBV? I've seen lots of posts about the coil getting stuck in the chimney, but none about the issue I'm experiencing. I'm gutted, because it's as good as you all said and I don't want to be without one.

EDIT -- I'm on a project in Louisiana at the moment, which is why I didn't order from the U.K. vendor
This issue has happened before, you will need to send it in to HOH, hopefully you will be here for a bit, Zen is very fast with turnaround times. Contact Us that is a link to the contact us page, pay close attention to the time to call info. Good luck!
 

coldgin96

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 22, 2012
3,202
19,383
North of Detroit, way south of Heaven
You made me go check Wikipedia and this is what I learned:

Allen (brand)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Allen

Owner Apex Tool Group
Country Hartford, Connecticut, USA
Introduced 1910
Previous owners Allen Manufacturing Company, Danaher Corporation
Tagline "We are the Original!"
Website www.allenhex.com
Allen is a brand of hand tools, most widely known for its eponymous hex key wrenches. It is owned by Apex Tool Group.[1][2]



Contents
[hide]


History[edit]
Originally named Allen Manufacturing Company,[3] the business produced hexagonal set screws and wrenches to fasten them. The terms "Allen wrench" and "Allen key" are derived from the Allen brand name and refer to the generic product category "hex keys."

W.G. Allen filed the first related patent in 1909 for hex-driven safety screws.[4] Prior to this recess driven fastener style, the driving end of fasteners tended to protrude out from machinery and create a safety hazard.

Apex Tool Group currently manufactures Allen-branded products in Dallas, Texas and Shanghai, China. They are made in L-key, folding, and T-handle styles.

I LOVE YOU, SIR ROD! :thumbs:
 
This issue has happened before, you will need to send it in to HOH, hopefully you will be here for a bit, Zen is very fast with turnaround times. Contact Us that is a link to the contact us page, pay close attention to the time to call info. Good luck!

Thanks, ENAUD, much appreciated. I assume it's best to go directly to HOH rather than via MBV?
I'm here for a couple of weeks yet, so that will hopefully be enough time for repair / replacement. Thanks again.
 

ENAUD

Resting In Peace
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 23, 2013
9,810
64,089
Bordertown of ProVariland and REOville
Thanks, ENAUD, much appreciated. I assume it's best to go directly to HOH rather than via MBV?
I'm here for a couple of weeks yet, so that will hopefully be enough time for repair / replacement. Thanks again.
Zen usually turns stuff around same day, so ship it to him priority, He'll ship it back priority, all things go well you're looking at five business days total. Good Luck!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread