NN Armor should be in glass already. Or did I miss something. Mine is all V1 Armor and definitely came in glass bottles.
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I went with Armor v3, which is a different approach to long term nicotine viability, using a small amount of ascorbic acid to bind with any oxygen in solution.
Thank you! I guess I did have that one...
I need 15L of 100mg/ml and 300 50ml glass bottles to last me the rest of my life. I read from that chemist, Kent, in the deeming regs thread that 100% VG is the best for freezing. Just buy the PG as you go along. He suggest freezing in 50ml glass bottles and remove from freezer as needed.
I can get the nic juice from myfreedomsmokes for $50 a liter and the 300 amber glass bottles with dropper cap for @ $120 from here:Essential Oil Amber Dropper Bottles | Specialty Bottle
That's my plan if the grandfather date doesn't get changed soon.
Of course, any suggestions and opinions are always welcomed...
...and needed!
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That's going to be a monumental task filling all them tiny bottles. I went with 250ml bottles, and some 120 ml bottles, and some 60ml bottles, and 30's...see where I'm going with this? The 250 and 120's are the long term storage sizes, and as I go through my stock they will get broken down into the 120's 60's and 30's. That took me a lot less time to package for cold storage, and they will only need to go through a couple thaw re-chill cycles before final mixing. As long as you wait, and this is very important! for the bottles to come fully up to room temp before even thinking about cracking the seal on the caps.Thank you! I guess I did have that one...
I need 15L of 100mg/ml and 300 50ml glass bottles to last me the rest of my life. I read from that chemist, Kent, in the deeming regs thread that 100% VG is the best for freezing. Just buy the PG as you go along. He suggest freezing in 50ml glass bottles and remove from freezer as needed.
I can get the nic juice from myfreedomsmokes for $50 a liter and the 300 amber glass bottles with dropper cap for @ $120 from here:Essential Oil Amber Dropper Bottles | Specialty Bottle
That's my plan if the grandfather date doesn't get changed soon.
Of course, any suggestions and opinions are always welcomed...
"Monumental task" Yeah, I know. I am nervous about letting it thaw and refreezing but maybe a couple of times won't hurt, a? I may have to rethink my strategy a little... Thanks!
Think of it like this, at freezer temps the PG or VG does not really freeze, it thickens up a lot, and the molecules slow way down, freezing is not like hitting the stop button, more like pause/ super slow motion. It just greatly slows down the eventual degradation process.
Bringing it back up to room temp, and keeping it sealed until it warms does several things. It keeps the container from sucking in some air when you uncap it, because at freezer temp the PG/VG contracts slightly creating a small vacuum, if you uncap it in that state, air will rush in along with the moisture the air has dissolved in it. Then if you recap it right away, pressure will build up inside the bottle, possibly breaking it.
Warming the bottle up lets everything stabilize back to the state it was in when filled and capped. The PG/VG and nic are not going to undergo any drastic changes from this shift in temperatures, as long as you let it stabilize before opening, and re bottling. There will be some oxygen introduced by the pouring of the liquid, but that won't be too huge of a deal in my mind, because it will be going back into the freezer anyways.
I rebottle to 500ml glass for storage ... when I open a 500ml, I bring to room temp and it gets broken into 4x120 glass ... the 120s get refrozen.
I do the same process in thawing a 120ml and break it down to 4x30ml ... the 3x30mls go back in the freezer.
Therefore, the most I have out of the freezer is 30ml of 100mg.
been doing this for over 2 years.
I do the same process in thawing a 120ml and break it down to 4x30ml ... the 3x30mls go back in the freezer.
Therefore, the most I have out of the freezer is 30ml of 100mg.
been doing this for over 2 years.
I just take what I want from a thawed out 500ml bottle and put it back in the freezer when I'm done.
I like the way you think.
All other methods I've been reading seem like overkill. But to be fair, I know diddly squat about DIY so I have to assume all that transferring to so many size bottles might be necessary for the person doing it. As with anything, once you get the hang of it you do things differently.
I like breaking nic liters down into smaller bottles, mainly 60ml and a few 30ml, because I use so little at a time and breakage/spillage issues. If a smaller bottles breaks in the freezer (I do bag them individually for freeing) or you drop/spill it the mess and clean up hazard is so much smaller to deal with.
Like Willie, I've been doing this for over two years now, I worked out a system that I was comfortable with and felt gave me the beast shot at having my product stay fresh.I like the way you think.
As with anything, once you get the hang of it you do things differently.
Nowadays, start till cleanup to mix a 240ml batch at 6mg/ml takes me less than 5 minutes. I always make the same amount in the same old 250ml brown bottle, with just enough room left to shake it all up.
I like the way you think.
As with anything, once you get the hang of it you do things differently.
Woah, look at you! Love the glasses, Lex!
and hello Kabuki-ites.
Thank you!!! My plan was to finally get a freezer & DIY supplies but my priorities shifted & that $500 went to the glasses instead.Woah, look at you! Love the glasses, Lex!
and hello Kabuki-ites.
And there's another pair I want which cost a bit more. Not sure if I'm gonna get them next or not.
I think I need someone else to hold my money.
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