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I like that...a lot.
You've given me an idea. Maybe I can get my son, the animator, to make me a GGTS with a Star Trek Warp Drive. As Tim the Tool Man used to say: MORE POWER !
lol
Nice Photoshop work, then. Had me fooled, and I work in graphics. ;-)
& @dpsin...
Wow... Being an inveterate "try it you might like it" kinda bloke, I wound a system up to 13.6 watts (two 16430s @ 3.7 under load fresh off the charger into a 4 ohm 510) and it was mega hot for me - blisteringly hot! So hot it hurt, really...
Must do some temperature tests and see what temps the vapour comes off at - wow!
LR 1.5ohm total, or LR 1.25ohm total? Even the 1.25ohm ones are still two 2.5ohm coils. That's a whole lot different from running a 1.7ohm atty at 7.4 volts!
This may not be a realistic comparison. Looks like fright88 is using dual coils which drastically changes the math. Frankly, I am not even sure how to calculate actual watts when using dual coils (two much higher Ωs coils). I find DCs, which meter as LR, can take dramatically higher power levels compared to equiv Ωs single coil. But I really do not think the basic watts calculation applies the same way to DCs.
Edit: Looks like Chaos beat me to it.
Yeah they are two coils each being 1.5+-0.2Ω. I definetly don't push my 1.5 LR attys at 5.5 volts lol.
Hmm maybe I am just use to it. I thought that maybe because my vaping and most of my tests were done with DCC's that maybe I would get different results with an actual atomizer or scc so to ease my curiosity I pulled a 1.7 ohm atty from my AVS and threw it on my VV Device. Set the VV device to 4.8V (where I normally vape my DCC's) and tried it out. The vapor temperature was about the same as my DCC.
Either way I like it and am excited to try the Kick regardless of what the final specs are (unless it is something like 6 watts LOL) I vape 3.7 4.8 and 6v all on a daily basis so I am sure the kick will fall somewhere in that range
This may not be a realistic comparison. Looks like fright88 is using dual coils which drastically changes the math. Frankly, I am not even sure how to calculate actual watts when using dual coils (two much higher Ωs coils). I find DCs, which meter as LR, can take dramatically higher power levels compared to equiv Ωs single coil. But I really do not think the basic watts calculation applies the same way to DCs.
Edit: Looks like Chaos beat me to it.
The math stays the same - ye canna change the laws of physics!! The wattage is identical at a given voltage and resistance, no matter what the resistor network used That said, the two coils would not reach as a high a temperature as a single coil of the same resistance of the two in parallel. The end result should be marginally warmer vapour, but a lot more of it with greater flavour. That is the theory, at any rate.
I am not an engineer and can accept that mathematically it may be correct but in vaping we ARE vaping the heat. There is no question that juices (and their various ingredients) react/respond differently to different heat levels. And, while watts may be watts, IMHO vaping LR watts is NOT the same experience as vaping higher resistance watts of equal number. There is no question (at least in my mind) that the heat variance between a 1.5Ω single coil and a 1.5Ω dual coil is DRASTICALLY different. So, even tho the math may be the same, pushing the same power thru a single 1.5Ω vs two 3Ωs coils (in parallel) will give you a very different vape. Put a 1.5Ωs coil on under-load 6V and vape that side-by-side with a 1.5Ωs dual coil at the same under-load 6V and there is no realistic equivalency between the two vape experiences. As I am not an engineer, I cannot address the EXACT specifications (started reading about the math on resistance of dual coils in parallel and it can get confusing) but I feel confident with my original post "This may not be a realistic comparison".
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I am not an engineer and can accept that mathematically it may be correct but in vaping we ARE vaping the heat. There is no question that juices (and their various ingredients) react/respond differently to different heat levels. And, while watts may be watts, IMHO vaping LR watts is NOT the same experience as vaping higher resistance watts of equal number. There is no question (at least in my mind) that the heat variance between a 1.5Ω single coil and a 1.5Ω dual coil is DRASTICALLY different. So, even tho the math may be the same, pushing the same power thru a single 1.5Ω vs two 3Ωs coils (in parallel) will give you a very different vape. Put a 1.5Ωs coil on under-load 6V and vape that side-by-side with a 1.5Ωs dual coil at the same under-load 6V and there is no realistic equivalency between the two vape experiences. As I am not an engineer, I cannot address the EXACT specifications (started reading about the math on resistance of dual coils in parallel and it can get confusing) but I feel confident with my original post "This may not be a realistic comparison".
As I said, the heat generated at the coils(s) in a dual vs single coil setup will be markedly different for the same overall resistance at the same voltage. As each coil would take half the power (assuming equal resistance) in a Dual Coil setup, you could realistically expect a lower temperature at the coil. In the single coil setup, though, you would achieve twice the power at a single coil - and that MUST result in increased heat at the coil.
However, I really must take issue with the phrase "vaping LR watts is NOT the same experience as vaping higher resistance watts of equal number". Watts are watts - however, the construction of the higher resistance atomiser (or other device) is unlikely to be the same as the LR, and that could be due to coil wire thickness, number of turns, spread of turns and so on. A given topology of coil may be more efficient than another, in the same way that, subjectively, a 901 is reputed to give a more flavourful vape than a 510 of equal resistance at the same voltage.
The only comparisons we can definitively give, in truth, once we explore past the maths, are entirely subjective, and are mostly prefaced by "I like" or "I don't like". Since my work involves objectivity for the most part, I prefer to stick with the maths and the science. Call it the Vulcan in me!!
I was never good at math 
In all reality I like to adjust the voltage to what I feel like is the best flavor/th for me. I only really look at what voltage I'm vaping at is on the Provari because sometimes it cuts me off when my taste is causing the protection inside to trigger. Anyways this little gadget is awesome and I would love to have one. Once Imeos GGVV add-on comes out I will most definitely buy that too. I love supporting the vaping community however I can.
In all reality I like to adjust the voltage to what I feel like is the best flavor/th for me. I only really look at what voltage I'm vaping at is on the Provari because sometimes it cuts me off when my taste is causing the protection inside to trigger. Anyways this little gadget is awesome and I would love to have one. Once Imeos GGVV add-on comes out I will most definitely buy that too. I love supporting the vaping community however I can.
Hifi, take all the issue with my opinions you care to take. It is merely my opinion (based on careful comparisons keeping all other variables constant while comparing only the same make and model attys and cartos at varying Ωs levels on Darwin - to maintain constant watts - to isolate only the various Ωs for the most realistic direct comparison I can create). Similarly, as watts are watts, and the vape difference between single coil vs dual coil at 1.5 is discernible to you and me both, to me - the difference between LR 8.5 watts and 3Ωs 8.5 watts (again, with all other variables being kept constant) is similarly discernible (albeit less drastic). So, while you take issue with my statement, and we agree that watts are watts - until a difference in coils (eg single vs dual 1.5Ωs), I maintain that I have compared LR vs HV watts and do see a discernible difference (to my subjective taste and preference). Vulcans may be objective but, IMHO, various vape experiences are subjective. As I have posted elsewhere, and I maintain, there is no "better/best" - there is only your, my and each person's individual better/best. For my money (and vaping enjoyment), I'll take standard and higher Ωs watts over LR watts each and every day and twice on Sunday. I know many who feel diametrically opposed to this preference and vape only LR with the same determination in their observational conclusions. But this is yet another wonderful aspect of vaping - enough variations for each to find their own "better/best".
Hifi, take all the issue with my opinions you care to take. It is merely my opinion (based on careful comparisons keeping all other variables constant while comparing only the same make and model attys and cartos at varying Ωs levels on Darwin - to maintain constant watts - to isolate only the various Ωs for the most realistic direct comparison I can create). Similarly, as watts are watts, and the vape difference between single coil vs dual coil at 1.5 is discernible to you and me both, to me - the difference between LR 8.5 watts and 3Ωs 8.5 watts (again, with all other variables being kept constant) is similarly discernible (albeit less drastic). So, while you take issue with my statement, and we agree that watts are watts - until a difference in coils (eg single vs dual 1.5Ωs), I maintain that I have compared LR vs HV watts and do see a discernible difference (to my subjective taste and preference). Vulcans may be objective but, IMHO, various vape experiences are subjective. As I have posted elsewhere, and I maintain, there is no "better/best" - there is only your, my and each person's individual better/best. For my money (and vaping enjoyment), I'll take standard and higher Ωs watts over LR watts each and every day and twice on Sunday. I know many who feel diametrically opposed to this preference and vape only LR with the same determination in their observational conclusions. But this is yet another wonderful aspect of vaping - enough variations for each to find their own "better/best".
I was a staunch LR atomizer/cartomizer vaper as long as I used 3.7v. But, when I started using variable powered mods I found higher resistance and higher volts produced better flavor with less harshness and heat. Convert the scenario to watts and it's the same story. I never vape the Darwin above 8.5 watts....ever; don't care for what comes up the mouthpiece above 8.5. Like you said; vaping is so subjective. At the end of the day, whatever works best for each person is "the best setup".
Guys, the thickness of the wire plays as big role as watts do. If you put a thin 3 ohms wire (0,1 or 0,13mm) on a 3,7 volt device it will work. But if you do the same but with a fat wire (0,16 or 0,18) it will not work or it will work but with much less smoke or hit.
About vaping experience, dont forget the wick we use.
About vaping experience, dont forget the wick we use.
Ahhh! There goes Hifi talking about me again! 
I'm one of the mathematical illiterates that swears my 901's taste better than my 510's. And speaking of subjectivity, at the end of the day, if I think it tastes better, why not use them when I can right?
I know that sounds more like something a Feinstein would say than an Einstein but how I love the vape from my UFS!
I'm one of the mathematical illiterates that swears my 901's taste better than my 510's. And speaking of subjectivity, at the end of the day, if I think it tastes better, why not use them when I can right? I know that sounds more like something a Feinstein would say than an Einstein but how I love the vape from my UFS!
It's my experience, too, that a 901 is more flavourful than a 510. I know that's not down to the wattage, resistance or what device it's mounted on, therefore it has to be something to do with the way a 901 is constructed vs a 510 - that's what I was trying to say in that post above.Ahhh! There goes Hifi talking about me again!
I know that sounds more like something a Feinstein would say than an Einstein but how I love the vape from my UFS!
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Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone.
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Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone.
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