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edyle

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ok; so now i gotta find out what this cisco atomiser is;

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YA YA YA YA

I been looking for something like that. Somebody tell me MORE!

Like what fits over the top of the one on the left; I think this is the 306 standard?
 
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Since I got a good VW device and topped it with the iClear30S I've had zero problems. Been over a month now and still using the same heads. I've cleaned them once in an ultrasonic cleaner with 91% alcohol. I still let out plumes on demand. What little leaking has occurred has been rare and easy to fix by just blowing it out, wiping it and the battery contacts. Unlike with my ProtankII, blowing it out hasn't drained my entire tank of juice. I haven't had this much ease in vaping since my cig-a-like days.
 

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Oh, something I personally believe, for better or worse, your juice should taste how it smells. End of story. I have like 20 juices in front of me that, when they taste their best, they taste just like the juice smells, but in vapor form, so slightly sweeter and just a tadmore "open" (less concentrated, but still just as solid and strong... Good thing none of them smell like perfume, but then again, I never buy I juice before I test it.)

Sometimes there will be an added note or two, but really, if you open a juice that smells like a rich bag of moist plums, and it tastes like cardboard, smoke, or charcoal, even if you do enjoy the taste, that's not how that juice is supposed to taste; it's something wrong with your atomizer. If it benefits you, that's good, but it really isn't what vapor in it's true form is supposed to be like. Vapor should pretty much be like hookah at worst. No "butts" about it (ha, since I taste cigarette butts with half these devices...)

I think that's the vaping standard that many on this forum should open their minds and equate to when it comes to helping new members discover what is the "standard line" for what most people expect out of a vapor. We all have personal preferences, but if some of us do enjoy some pretty odd tastes, I don't think we need to forget that it isn't the norm. We don't need to keep telling new members they're doing something wrong (it's quite hard to ruin a good atomizer, believe it or not...) and try to ask ourselves why it is that products, obviously designed and marketed to newbies, aren't performing.

One thing that runs through my head, like with my iClear 30 experience, I think "What if a politician were to have tried this very head? They'd have written up a bill to ban these devices in a hot second!" because the taste was so poisonous. I've been a smoker for years, and yes, if I happen to burn a cigarette filter, it does make me physically gag and throw up, but this iClear head was a burnt cigarette filter times 10. It was downright as though I literally lit up a cigarette filter and took a huge, big draw.

To this day, I don't know what caused it, but I know that it's not right. Things like that shouldn't be happening on such a wide scale - who ever did a study on the health effects of burnt "whatever" in e-cigs? That's what worries me. Who ever did a study noting the health effects of someone repeatedly throwing away cash on heads that perform like this? That's what worries me. Who ever did a study on how many people quit vaping after experiencing something like this? That's what worries me. And that's why I think this quality standard needs to improve.
 
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One thing that runs through my head, like with my iClear 30 experience, I think "What if a politician were to have tried this very head? They'd have written up a bill to ban these devices in a hot second!" because the taste was so poisonous. I've been a smoker for years, and yes, if I happen to burn a cigarette filter, it does make me physically gag and throw up, but this iClear head was a burnt cigarette filter times 10. It was downright as though I literally lit up a cigarette filter and took a huge, big draw.

To this day, I don't know what caused it, but I know that it's not right. Things like that shouldn't be happening on such a wide scale - who ever did a study on the health effects of burnt "whatever" in e-cigs? That's what worries me. Who ever did a study noting the health effects of someone repeatedly throwing away cash on heads that perform like this? That's what worries me. Who ever did a study on how many people quit vaping after experiencing something like this? That's what worries me. And that's why I think this quality standard needs to improve.

Lets emphasize that this is YOUR experience, saying that a politician would ban this device in a "hot second" sounds like you are implying this device is meant to taste poisonous and designed to make people throw up.

As for a study on how many people quit vaping due to a burning taste... Obviously, you are still here after 4 years of burning and not tilting your clearomizer, so that would set the bar pretty darn low wouldn't it? LOL
 

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Oh, something I personally believe, for better or worse, your juice should taste how it smells. End of story. I have like 20 juices in front of me that, when they taste their best, they taste just like the juice smells, but in vapor form, so slightly sweeter and just a tadmore "open" (less concentrated, but still just as solid and strong... Good thing none of them smell like perfume, but then again, I never buy I juice before I test it.)

Sometimes there will be an added note or two, but really, if you open a juice that smells like a rich bag of moist plums, and it tastes like cardboard, smoke, or charcoal, even if you do enjoy the taste, that's not how that juice is supposed to taste; it's something wrong with your atomizer. If it benefits you, that's good, but it really isn't what vapor in it's true form is supposed to be like. Vapor should pretty much be like hookah at worst. No "butts" about it (ha, since I taste cigarette butts with half these devices...)

One of my favorite juices that I make has the following flavors in it: menthol, pralenes & cream, caramel and bavarian cream. You would think it would be sweet, but it's not to me. I can't smell half of those flavors from this juice. What I taste is dependent on the device I vape it in and the power I put on the coil. It can taste similar to Coke, or the pralenes & cream can really come forward, or with about 6 - 8 mg of nicotine in it in my dual coil Trident at 30 watts it becomes something completely different that would knock your socks off with a wonderful (to me) flavor that I can't even describe. That setup in that device does something to the ingredients that melds them into something simply different. Not burnt. Not even a warm vape because I use thick wire and have enough air flow in the Trident to keep it cool. I've never tried this in a carto, but I think it would be very good in one too, but a different taste again.

Simple recipes can smell a lot like they taste when vaped, but I very rarely vape a single flavor. Now that I know what can be achieved with juice, I mix for subtle undertones and combinations of flavors. If my juices all tasted the way they smelled I would be a very unhappy camper and be wondering what went wrong.

Vape on.
 

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I discovered yesterday that I was seating my coil *too* low in my head, it just needs to be low enough to not touch the cap on it so it wont short out.

I wonder if that's why mine get hotter than store bought heads:

I use xc116, stick blunt needle inside and coil the wire around, then place all of that in the grooves on bottom part of head and put in rubber grommet and bottom pin.
I didn't think it was too low, but I suppose it's possible and causing everything to get hotter (Kanger and other metal tanks).
I guess I have to take pics or video
 

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Answers to #1,#2, and #3 = YES

Why bridged or bridgeless was a question I had for a long time. Then I got a bridged one that always tasted burnt with certain juices. Debridged it and never got that again. The good news is you can buy attys that are bridgeless so you don't have to go through the pain in the .... of debridging them yourself.
 

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Answers to #1,#2, and #3 = YES

Why bridged or bridgeless was a question I had for a long time. Then I got a bridged one that always tasted burnt with certain juices. Debridged it and never got that again. The good news is you can buy attys that are bridgeless so you don't have to go through the pain in the .... of debridging them yourself.

With respect to the bridged, what I am trying to understand is how does the bridge get hot?
I get the impression there is no current going through the bridge. Or is there? Does the bridge get hot because it is near the coil?

The bridge sticks upwards into the filler material, so I want to understand whether the bridge is electrical in nature..

For people who are dripping, they probably dont particularly want a bridged atty.

How do you debridge the atty: do you juct pull it out with a pliers? If you debridge it does it then look like the 2nd one in the photo?
 

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With respect to the bridged, what I am trying to understand is how does the bridge get hot?
I get the impression there is no current going through the bridge. Or is there? Does the bridge get hot because it is near the coil?

The bridge sticks upwards into the filler material, so I want to understand whether the bridge is electrical in nature..

For people who are dripping, they probably dont particularly want a bridged atty.

How do you debridge the atty: do you juct pull it out with a pliers? If you debridge it does it then look like the 2nd one in the photo?

The bridge is there for wicking purposes as I understand things

video on how to debridge
Atomizer Debridge | De-bridge (HOW TO) - YouTube
 
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