Anyone else preparing for the end??

Status
Not open for further replies.

Panorama911

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 24, 2012
2,876
8,857
68
Kansas
Thinking outside the box...I wonder if using a Mason jar filled to the very top then place the jar is a "seal a meal"....vacuum sealed bag then store would eliminate any concern for oxygen getting in?....Too bad the jar couldn't be sealed like it is intended via pressurized steam, my mom has some green beans that I think are 40 years old now, they appear to be good still!:lol:
 

rc3po

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Jun 22, 2014
497
220
Texas
Haven't you heard about the Comet that is Coming and is projected to Wipe Out all of China's tobacco Crop in 2015?

Whether you're a doomsday prepper or not, everyone should have at least a month of food & water per person just in case of a natural disaster or something. If not water itself, then water filters. The Life Straw is a good thing to have in an emergency also.
But I think the OP was referring to the possible FDA actions looming. Of course, the government can't do anything if the people don't go along with it. They like to pretend that they have the power - that's what Marie Antoinette thought...
 

rc3po

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Jun 22, 2014
497
220
Texas
No Worries.

The Reason that all this Caught my Eye is because there was a Thread recently talking about Nicotine Degradation.

Seems like people were having a Hard Time Quantifying the Amount also.

I wish madvapes had kept posting Results to this Unofficial Study.

Madvapes Blog - Nicotine Concentration Over Time

Thanks for the link, it's interesting. What I don't like about Madvapes is when you start scrolling down the page, the thing at the top pops in and blocks almost half of the screen. That's why I rarely ever go to their website.
 

rc3po

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Jun 22, 2014
497
220
Texas
Yes, plastic bottles do allow oxygen transfer (in contrast to glass) and LDPE or HDPE are the worst. But I have no idea how bad (or good) they are for nicotine.
plastic bottle resin materials

I get my nic from myfreedomsmokes.com and it comes in a brown glass bottle. I would not store it in plastic either.
 

zoiDman

My -0^10 = Nothing at All*
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Apr 16, 2010
41,616
1
84,722
So-Cal
Whether you're a doomsday prepper or not, everyone should have at least a month of food & water per person just in case of a natural disaster or something. If not water itself, then water filters. The Life Straw is a good thing to have in an emergency also.
But I think the OP was referring to the possible FDA actions looming. Of course, the government can't do anything if the people don't go along with it. They like to pretend that they have the power - that's what Marie Antoinette thought...

This is Good Advise.

I live in California. And we are Overdue for "The Big One".

Having Bottled Water, Canned Food and a Way to Make Fire is a Must. As well as all the Other things that would go with "What to do if the Power is Out".

Flashlights, Batteries, Wrench to Turn Off the Gas, MED-Kit, etc.
 
Last edited:

oplholik

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Mar 22, 2011
12,078
33,862
San Bernardino area, So. Cal.
I'm a Californian also, and the only thing I'm stocked up on, and continuing to stock up on is nic, and cartos. I keep 1 to 1-1/2 years supply of nic in the freezer. I guess I figure that if the "big one" hits, I'll be good. I guess I'm so used to earthquakes, I just don't think about it that much, may be sorry some day tho.
 

DonnaLee

Full Member
Verified Member
Oct 7, 2010
34
17
Arkansas
I am starting to freeze some nic, worried about the FDA but also what the states could do once there are regulations in the works. Already we've seen bills introduced to ban e-liquid in NY and other states want huge taxes on the equipment. I am getting better at making coils but have a terrible feeling all my batteries will die at the same time. We have 4 evods each using 2 with two still boxed for backup. The itastes MVP and VV/VW are mine, hubby doesn't like the size. Neither of us needs more power, I rarely go much over 4v on my MVP.

I am not interested in unregulated mods but replaceable batteries seem like something that would be good, I am just very nervous about them (I'm type of person, if someone is very late getting home, I start imaging they must have been in a terrible accident or maybe dead). As it is, I stay close charging the stuff I have feeling to see if they are warm every half hour or so while charging. I wish there was something not much bigger than itaste vv/vw with replaceable battery . My husband and I are perfectly happy with our evods, just trying to plan purchases for the next few years of use without buying stuff that will go bad sitting around. Any suggestions for longer term storage of backups and what type would be best? I'm not talking 10 years but maybe 2 to 4 years. Also, what state should a battery be in to store for a year or so, discharged, full or as they came from the retailer? I have read about battery safety, DIY, rebuilding coils to the point I feel like my brain could use a de-frag; who says an old dog can't learn new tricks!

I haven't purchased a lot knowing new improved items are released but do want to know what we could store and how best to do that. I watch legislation carefully in case we have nothing but the crumby look-alike e-cigs forced on us again, if that happened, I think all the good stuff would disappear quickly.
 

zoiDman

My -0^10 = Nothing at All*
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Apr 16, 2010
41,616
1
84,722
So-Cal
I'm a Californian also, and the only thing I'm stocked up on, and continuing to stock up on is nic, and cartos. I keep 1 to 1-1/2 years supply of nic in the freezer. I guess I figure that if the "big one" hits, I'll be good. I guess I'm so used to earthquakes, I just don't think about it that much, may be sorry some day tho.

I would at Least throw a Case or Two of Bottled Water in the Garage. Maybe a Few Slim Jims and a Roll of Paper Towels also.

;)

BTW - Been Hot in So-Cal Lately. Hasn't it.
 

Rossum

Eleutheromaniac
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 14, 2013
16,081
105,232
SE PA
I would at Least throw a Case or Two of Bottled Water in the Garage. Maybe a Few Slim Jims and a Roll of Paper Towels also.
There's an old rule of thumb: You can survive:

  • Three minutes without air
  • Three days without water
  • Three weeks without food
As a true nic fiend, I would add:

  • Three hours without nicotine
... and I prioritize my "preparations" accordingly. :laugh:
 

Rossum

Eleutheromaniac
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 14, 2013
16,081
105,232
SE PA
Also, what state should a battery be in to store for a year or so, discharged, full or as they came from the retailer?
About 3.6V is best. But rechargeable lithium batteries will lose ~10% of capacity per year even if you store them under optimal conditions. This means if you're prepping for the long haul, you will need replacement batteries eventually.
 

zoiDman

My -0^10 = Nothing at All*
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Apr 16, 2010
41,616
1
84,722
So-Cal
There's an old rule of thumb: You can survive:

  • Three minutes without air
  • Three days without water
  • Three weeks without food
As a true nic fiend, I would add:

  • Three hours without nicotine
... and I prioritize my "preparations" accordingly. :laugh:

Yeah... Water is Kinda Essential. And Not Just for drinking.

When I'm Kicking Back on the Patio admiring the Smoking Rubble that used to be my House after the 9.0 Hits, it will be Nice to Have a Wet Towel to Mop my brow.
 

tchavei

Vaping Master
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jul 15, 2014
4,765
8,710
Portugal
I wish there was something not much bigger than itaste vv/vw with replaceable battery

I have a mini zMax... its actually a little smaller than a itaste VV V3.0 but heavier and a little larger. It takes 18350 batteries. Here a very bad picture so get the idea:

vapegear.jpg

Left is an itaste vv v3.0 with a protank 3 mini and on the right a zMax mini with an aerotank mini. Aerotank and protank are the same height so the diference are the mods.

Also, what state should a battery be in to store for a year or so, discharged, full or as they came from the retailer?

As they come from the retailer is fine, if you already charged/cycled them, then at 50-60% is a good figure. Never store discharged nor fully charged (long term storage). Some people recommend a full discarge/charge once a year (or every 6 months). They won't last forever though even if kept in prestine conditions but I wouldn't worry with batteries... no reason to ban or tax batteries that are used in thousand of different applications.

Regards
Tony
 

C4M3120N

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 26, 2014
95
37
Jacksonville, FL USA
That price is not only not in the same ballpark, I'm not sure it's even the same SPORT. :D I think I'll stick with ECX's 14.99 for 115ml.

Andria

Are you Factoring in the Price of the Glass Bottles and Poly-Caps.

$15 for 115ml => $130.44/Liter

Not sure what mg Level that ECX Nicotine Base is? But $130/L seems High even for 100mg.

Hmm, well I can certainly agree that there is a huge price difference between $14.99 and $75, lol but I cannot agree with your assessment that these two products are not in the same ballpark and I have to call foul ball. Your comparing the price of 115ml to the price of 500ml (the price of 115 ballpark hotdogs to 500 ballpark hotdogs). Granted when you actually do the math per ml, the Nude Nicotine is a tad bit more expensive. Spending $75 on EXC will actually give you an extra 75ml compared to spending $75 on Nude. That is not really out of the ballpark at all, especially when you take into consideration what zoiDman was trying to point out. The Nude Extended Life Nicotine comes in a far superior container not to mention it is also topped of with Argon gas. The Argon gas in case you are curious is heavier than oxygen so when you top off the bottle with Argon gas you remove the ability of oxygen to degrade the nicotine you are setting aside for long term storage. In all actuality, the Nude Extended Life is an amazing deal that is practically equally comparable in price per ml that you are paying for EXC. You certainly can't go wrong buying either or, as both are top tier nicotine's but for the long term storage/stockpile inclined. Nude Extended Life should be the only option to consider.
 

Rossum

Eleutheromaniac
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Dec 14, 2013
16,081
105,232
SE PA
no reason to ban or tax batteries that are used in thousand of different applications.
Agreed. If you've got something that accepts a standard-sized cylindrical battery, then being able to replace the batteries is a non-worry (when it comes to regulations and taxes). That's one reason why mods based around 18650, 18490/18500 or even 18350 batteries are so popular. Trouble those 18mm diameter batteries require a mod that's bigger in girth than some people would like. Personally, I'm just fine with 18650 size mods, but I bet there's a market for svelte little regulated mod that uses a 14500, which is about the size of an AA.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread