Its nice sitting at home, taking a long drag and blowing out a huge cloud of vapor. However there are times where this would be a bad thing, now my question is: Has anyone figured out a stealth vaping solution? Mainly a juice that didnt create a fog effect. Or am I just stuck holdin in my hits for a few secs? I mainly would like this for work, where one person (since march of 09) .....ed about my ecig in the break room (that she was passing through, not even sitting in) so a manager told me not to use it. So far Ive just held in hits and if anyone says anything Ill tell them its turned off (juicebox mod) and that its helping like a straw does for a smoker.
Anyone figure out how to make vaporless juice? Aka Stealth vaping
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That's an interesting problem!
When I make eliquids, I usually try for the maximum smokiness starting with a VG-based high-concentration nicotine solution and cutting it with pg and candy-flavorings to get the desired strength. Your specification would require the opposite approach.
Logic dictates that the problem of vaping secretly in public is a matter of getting rid of the visual signs and the smell. My approach for my initial stealth vapor was made to leave a lot of 'smoke' but as little smell as possible. In order to get rid of the visual component, I think you would need to leave out the VG altogether. Then you would have to eliminate the flavorings to decrease the risk of detection by smell.
I think you might best accomplish this by using low-concentration, pg-based nicquid and then cutting it with something orderless, inhalable and chemically inert. This leads me to wonder how much distilled water an e-liquid can take and still be useable. I think I might have to do some research and expermentation soon.
As a first try, I would suggest your trying a low-concentration, pg-based, unflavored solution coupled with your technique of holding the draw in. I have just tried it and holding the vapor in for a count of eight to ten seconds leaves me exhaling next to nothing even with my smokier personal mixes.
Between a no-flavor, all pg and water mix and your technique, I think you might be on to something. In fact, you might just have made going to the movies a whole new experience.
Thanks. If I find anything interesting, and I remember, I'll PM you the results.
I think you might need to find a different base than PG. From my experience, it produces vapor clouds regardless. Maybe cutting it down with water? Make sure it's distilled water, and you keep it away from air, you don't want it to dissolve Oxygen or CO2 to deteriorate your atty's. But, that would still produce vapor, but probably much thinner and shorter lasting.
I meant make as in someone making avaible for sale. Not to be too confusing hah. About as far as I go making my juice is simply cutting it with straight glycerin about 50/50 juice to glycerin ratio. Too bad the only place Ive seen it is: Electronic Cigarette - Smokeless Cigarette - Buy Smokeless Electronic Cigarettes, E-Liquid $1 per ML, ouch!
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It definitely detracts from the experience, but in some situations, that's OK, better than not vaping at all. The stealth juice I like is what I presume is the original formulation, a peppery menthol, which packs a serious punch. I have no idea what it's made from, but it does work as advertised. I just wish someone (a US dealer) would pick it up and keep it in stock.
Im sure it does detract from the experience but in my situation it would be in use for roughly 30 mins a day (15x2 breaks) on its own atomizer. I guess for now I just gotta watch who I blow vapor around at work (early shift, my crew get first breaks but people are always coming through) since everyone but that one person doesnt care. Shes also a smoker, I wonder why she told haha.
Thats what I have been doing, as said in the OP. However currently Im comming down with something and my god the ecig is harsh on my throat right now. Where normally its smooth, it burns in a bad way. Holding anything in right now hurts, oh well gotta get that nic some how.
yeah I'm experiencing the same problem today too, although when I was sick or having allergy attacks analogs could be murder. thinking of busting out the rarely-used snus in my freezer if I still feel like this tomorrow
To make 'Smokeless' e-juice simply remove the PG or VG. They use PG in smoke machines. The vapor looks like smoke because of the PG. No PG no Smoke.
I think that's pathetic that someone would complain about your vapor at work, or anywhere for that matter. I'd go to them and your boss and explain exactly what it is you're exhaling, then kindly ask them to stop breathing and farting at work- both are more dangerous to your health.
Its not the danger, its the fact that it looks like smoke, there for it is simulating an act that is not allowed on company property (use of tobbaco products). I think this is a complete crock of poo but this gal has been giving me hell over freaking everything for the last 2 years. I think for now Im just stuck with not vaping if she is near the break room or holding them in.
Not to be crass, but have you thought of smoking like 5 analogs in row on break and come back in and have a close up one on one talk with here over somthing that requires her to talk to you. And then ask if you smelled better vaping or smoking analogs. I bet the stench of 5 freshly smoked analogs in her face will make her beg you to vape 
Hey just an idea....
Dan
Hey just an idea....
Dan
Try this....
Use only PG nic liquid. Make between 25% and 33% of your final mix water or vodka. Use any basic flavoring, but I find FlavourArt is good for these mixes since they are strong and you need very little. Use PG only for the remainder of your solution. Avoid VG and flavorings with VG. (Most don't have this anyway.)
Beware however that this mix is VERY thin and you might need to pack extra filler into your carts to keep it from leaking! I avoid auto batteries with this type of mix because of the leakage.
Less water or vodka can be used but it will produce a bit more vapor. However it might not matter as long as you inhale and don't just puff out. Create and test is best here - only you can check if the mix suits the way you vape.
OH! And get a spray can of air freshener or cologne in a fragrance to match your vaping flavor and keep it right next to you all day long! LOL
Use only PG nic liquid. Make between 25% and 33% of your final mix water or vodka. Use any basic flavoring, but I find FlavourArt is good for these mixes since they are strong and you need very little. Use PG only for the remainder of your solution. Avoid VG and flavorings with VG. (Most don't have this anyway.)
Beware however that this mix is VERY thin and you might need to pack extra filler into your carts to keep it from leaking! I avoid auto batteries with this type of mix because of the leakage.
Less water or vodka can be used but it will produce a bit more vapor. However it might not matter as long as you inhale and don't just puff out. Create and test is best here - only you can check if the mix suits the way you vape.
OH! And get a spray can of air freshener or cologne in a fragrance to match your vaping flavor and keep it right next to you all day long! LOL
Absolutely! I couldn't agree more.
You could wear your work shoes on a morning jog and then at work claim the only thing that calms you without nicotine is to kick off ya shoes and prop up pointed in her direction...
You could wear your work shoes on a morning jog and then at work claim the only thing that calms you without nicotine is to kick off ya shoes and prop up pointed in her direction...
Not to be crass, but have you thought of smoking like 5 analogs in row on break and come back in and have a close up one on one talk with here over somthing that requires her to talk to you. And then ask if you smelled better vaping or smoking analogs. I bet the stench of 5 freshly smoked analogs in her face will make her beg you to vape
Hey just an idea....
Dan
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