anyone here worried about the flavoring chemicals getting into your lungs?

[solo7777]

Hi,

There are ALOT of flavor juices out there and I really like some of them, but I am worried about with actually those flavorings are and if there are any side effects of sucking those chemicals into your lungs.

I know that vaping is generally safer than smoking but could vaping unknown chemical flavorings persent a higher risk than vaping unflavored juices?

Also do you think that USA made juices are safer than say EU/ Asia made juices. I know there is no regulation for juices and that is quite scary if you really think about it.

thanks

 

[Sickboy005]

I would say that North American companies are more definitely better than Asia liquids, just because some countries really do not care WHAT they put in the juice. I'm no more concerned with the flavoring that is in my vape than I am with the steroids in my beef, the chemicals in Mt Dew, the additives in water, etc. That's a personal opinion. If you're really concerned, check out AEMSA | American E-Liquid Manufacturing Standards Association They're trying to have a Manufacturers Trade Association that self regulates and certifies juice brands. Currently, Hot Vapes, Juicy Vapor, Kalamazoo Vapor Shop, Madvapes, NicQuid, NicVape, VaporCast and Texas Select Vapor have all been certified and finished their inspections.

 

[Sickboy005]

Apparently there's an issue with that second business, so you'll have to check out AEMSA yourself for the full list.

 

[Train2]

A legit concern, but to put it in perspective:

Here's the List of ingredients in RJR cigarettes:
Ingredient, Percentage (max), purpose

Acetanisole 0.001 Flavor
Acetic Acid 0.001 Flavor
Acetoin <0.0001 Flavor
Acetophenone <0.0001 Flavor
2-Acetylpyrazine 0.001 Flavor
2-Acetyl Thiazole 0.001 Flavor
Ammonium Alginate 1.15 Formulation Aid
Ammonium Hydroxide 0.08 In Process pH Adjuster, Flavor
Amyris Oil <0.0001 Flavor
trans-Anethole 0.001 Flavor
Anisaldehyde 0.001 Flavor
Ascorbic Acid <0.0001 Flavor
Benzaldehyde 0.001 Flavor
Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal 0.001 Flavor
Benzyl Alcohol 0.025 Flavor, Solvent
Benzyl Cinnamate 0.001 Flavor
Brown Sugar 2.9 Casing
n-Butyl Isovalerate 0.001 Flavor
Butyric Acid <0.001 Flavor
Caramel (Plain) 0.13 Flavor
Caramel Color 0.01 Flavor
Carbon11.77 Heat Source Constituent Utilized In Tobacco Heating Cigarettes
Carbon Dioxide Not Detectable Processing Aid
Cardamon Oil <0.0001 Flavor
Carob Bean Extract 0.095 Flavor
Carrot Seed Oil Terpeneless 0.001 Flavor
l-Carvone 0.025 Flavor
Cellulose Fiber 6.31 Formulation Aid
Chicory Extract 0.01 Flavor
Chocolate Liquor 0.27 Casing
Cinnamon Bark Oil <0.0001 Flavor
Citric Acid <0.0001 Flavor
Citronella Oil <0.0001 Flavor
Clary Sage Oil 0.001 Flavor
Cocoa (Extract, Powder, Extractive, Distillate) 1.84 Casing, Flavor
Coffee Beans, Ground 0.01 Flavor
Coffee Extract 0.065 Flavor
Coriander Oil 0.001 Flavor
Corn Syrup 0.025 Flavor
beta-Damascenone <0.0001 Flavor
beta-Damascone 0.01 Flavor
delta-Decalactone <0.0001 Flavor
gamma-Decalactone <0.0001 Flavor
Diammonium Phosphate 0.75 Flavor
4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-one 0.001 Flavor
2,5-Dimethylpyrazine 0.001 Flavor
Ethyl Acetate 0.001 Flavor
Ethyl Alcohol 0.298Flavor
Ethyl Benzoate <0.0001Flavor
Ethyl Butyrate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Caproate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Cyclotene <0.0001Flavor
Ethyl Heptanoate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Lactate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Levulinate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Maltol 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Pentanoate 0.001Flavor
Ethyl Phenylacetate <0.0001Flavor
Ethyl Vanillin 0.025Flavor
Ethyl-2-Methylbutyrate 0.01Flavor
2-Ethyl-3,5(or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine 0.001Flavor
5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone <0.0001Flavor
2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine 0.001Flavor
Eucalyptol 0.01Flavor
Fenugreek Extract0.001Flavor
Fenugreek Seed0.01Flavor
Fig Juice Concentrate0.34Casing
Furaneol0.01Flavor
Geraniol<0.0001Flavor
Geranium Bourbon Oil<0.0001Flavor
Geranyl Acetone0.01Flavor
Glucose0.001Flavor
Glycerides, mixed decanoyl and octanoyl1.92Flavor
Glycerol11.12Humectant
Graphite3.34Heat Source Constituent Utilized In Tobacco Heating Cigarettes
Guar Gum1.8Formulation Aid
gamma-Heptalactone0.001Flavor
Hexanoic Acid0.001Flavor
Hexyl Acetate0.01Flavor
High Fructose Corn Syrup4.49Casing
Honey2.38Casing
Immortelle Extract0.01Flavor
Isoamyl Acetate0.01Flavor
Isoamyl Isovalerate0.01Flavor
Isoamyl Phenylacetate0.01Flavor
Isobutyl Phenylacetate0.01Flavor
Isovaleraldehyde<0.0001Flavor
Isovaleric Acid<0.0001Flavor
Lactic Acid0.025Flavor
Lemon Oil, Terpeneless0.001Flavor
Licorice0.74Casing, Flavor
Licorice Extract Powder0.01Flavor
Lime Oil0.001Flavor
Linalool0.001Flavor
Linalyl Acetate0.001Flavor
Lovage Root0.001Flavor
Maltol0.01Flavor
Mandarin Oil0.001Flavor
Mate Extract<0.0001Flavor
Menthol3.17Flavor
l-Menthone0.001Flavor
2-Methoxy-3-Methyl-Pyrazine0.001Flavor
2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol0.001Flavor
2-Methyl Pentanoic Acid0.001Flavor
Methyl Salicylate0.001Flavor
Methyl-2-Pyrrolyl Ketone0.001Flavor
6-Methyl-3,5-Heptadien-2-one0.001Flavor
4-Methylacetophenone0.001Flavor
2-Methylbutyric Acid0.001Flavor
Methylcyclopentenolone0.01Flavor
2-Methylpyrazine0.001Flavor
3-Methylvaleric Acid0.001Flavor
Myrrh Extract<0.0001Flavor
Myrrh Oil0.001Flavor
Neroli Bigarade Oil<0.0001Flavor
Nerolidol<0.0001Flavor
gamma-Nonalactone<0.0001Flavor
Octanoic Acid<0.0001Flavor
Orange Oil0.01Flavor
Orange Oil Sweet Terpeneless0.01Flavor
Orange Oil Terpeneless0.01Flavor
Orris Root Extract0.001Flavor
2,3-Pentanedione0.001Flavor
Peppermint Oil, Terpeneless0.05Flavor
Peru Balsam Oil0.001Flavor
Phenylacetic Acid0.001Flavor
Phenylethyl Acetate<0.0001Flavor
Phenylethyl Alcohol<0.0001Flavor
alpha-Pinene0.01Flavor
beta-Pinene0.01Flavor
Piperonal0.01Flavor
Potassium Carbonate2.07Flavor
Potassium Sorbate0.001Preservative
Propyl Acetate<0.0001Flavor
Propylene Glycol1.9Solvent, Humectant, Flavor
Prune Juice Concentrate0.47Casing
Rose Oil Turkish0.001Flavor
Rosemary Oil<0.0001Flavor
Salicylic Aldehyde<0.0001Flavor
Sandalwood Oil, Yellow<0.0001Flavor
Sodium Carbonate0.18Heat Source Constituent Utilized In Tobacco Heating Cigarettes
Sodium Citrate<0.0001Flavor
Spearmint Oil0.38Flavor
Sucrose2.13Casing
Tangerine Oil, Terpeneless0.01Flavor
alpha-Terpineol<0.0001Flavor
Terpinyl Acetate0.001Flavor
5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline0.001Flavor
2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine0.001Flavor
Triethyl Citrate0.001Flavor
2,6,6-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexene-1, 4-Dione<0.0001Flavor
2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine0.001Flavor
delta-Undecalactone<0.0001Flavor
gamma-Undecalactone0.01Flavor
Vanilla Oleoresin0.01Flavor
Vanillin0.05Flavor
Veratraldehyde0.001Flavor
WaterNASolvent, Processing Aid, Humectan

 

[Heavyrocker]

Is that list for real?

 

[chrisbru]

People have been smoking hookah forever, and they seem to do alright. I'm not too worried.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Because there's so little information available I'm not about to sway anyone any which way. I now vape flavorless BUT on Fri. and Sat. night I vape my own DIY flavored juices...yep folks excitement + in my life on weekends.

 

[DC2]

To me there is no doubt that flavorings are the biggest concern with vaping.
Having said that, I don't think they are much of a concern when stacked up against what was in cigarettes.

Also keep in mind that cooks are inhaling vaporized flavors all day long.
I haven't seen any ill effects reported in that line of work other than diacetyl, which the vaping industry is well aware of.

That doesn't mean that I encourage heavy vaping of flavors, and I personally don't order extra flavoring.
It's just that in the scheme of things, I don't think it's really that much of a concern.

I could be wrong though, but only time will tell.

 

[iceman68]

A legit concern, but to put it in perspective:
Here's the List of ingredients in RJR cigarettes: ......

Please tell me you copied and pasted that list. For if not, and you typed it in 20 mins, you get the typist of the year award.

 

[Train2]

I literally copied it off their own website...

Is that list for real?

 

[Hazza_eYa]

No, The chemicals in the flavouring are not my main concern. As pointed out, cigarettes contain an awful lot of chemicals. You should vape some nice flavours; I'm on a 60/40 vg/pg mix atm, Vaping some nice generic brand cola flavoring, Using a CE4 Carto and the basic ego stick battery. My 3rd day vaping, 1st day without a single analogue, and I must say I am not craving cigarettes at all. Vape some nice flavours, enjoy it, while we can (UK Here, I hope the nicotine isn't reduced to 4mg.)! If you can get it, get RY4, its a tobacco taste, mixed with vanilla and caramel I think. Nice flavour tho, try it.

 

[skoot]

I stick to all-natural, organic flavors. And I mix my own juice. No artificial sweeteners either.

 

[jonescreek]

A legit concern, but to put it in perspective:

Here's the List of ingredients in RJR cigarettes:
Ingredient, Percentage (max), purpose
holy s___!

 

[bastonjock]

im very new to vaping but what concerns me a wee bit ,is that if the chinese can put poison into their baby milk powder what may they be putting into our vape juice?

It is my intention to start mixing my own juice

 

[mrsquash]

anyone know if something like a strawberry juice, actually has real strawberry juice?

 

[mkbilbo]

Hi,

There are ALOT of flavor juices out there and I really like some of them, but I am worried about with actually those flavorings are and if there are any side effects of sucking those chemicals into your lungs.

I know that vaping is generally safer than smoking but could vaping unknown chemical flavorings persent a higher risk than vaping unflavored juices?

Also do you think that USA made juices are safer than say EU/ Asia made juices. I know there is no regulation for juices and that is quite scary if you really think about it.

thanks

I think it's almost funny for people who smoked to worry about what's in their e-liquids...

 

[CookingWithGuns]

People have been smoking hookah forever, and they seem to do alright. I'm not too worried.

The chemicals and the chemical reactions in hookahs are very different than cigarettes.

im very new to vaping but what concerns me a wee bit ,is that if the chinese can put poison into their baby milk powder what may they be putting into our vape juice?

It is my intention to start mixing my own juice

A growing concern, especially with the increase in incidents from Chinese products over the last few years (at least in other markets like dog treats, baby food, etc..). This is probably why there is a large increase in US-made juices.

As for the flavoring ingredients, we've been inhaling and ingesting them longer than e-cigs have been around. As long as they don't use colouring dyes (though why would they for something being vaped), I doubt we'll ever see any sort of risk associated with them. HOWEVER, I'd be careful about ordering non-American made coffee flavor. You can extract coffee flavors very easily, however they'll contain caffeine, which you don't want to inhale. Because of regulations related to energy-drinks and the like, US products are most likely to make sure to extract out the caffeine completely. The coffee juices around now have been established, but any new pop-up places I'd be worried about if they just trying to jump into the market quickly.

 

[Heavyrocker]

I stick to all-natural, organic flavors. And I mix my own juice. No artificial sweeteners either.

The organic juices do have organic extracts,but also the ''natural'' flavors,which are not really natural,its a play on words,but the ''organic'' juice is safer,do the google dance.

 

[Smokachino]

I'm more worried about what I'm inhaling when I go out to walk my dog.

 

[Tornadotwist]

I'm more worried about what I'm inhaling when I go out to walk my dog.

You read my mind!!! These days nothing is healthy for you, even organic foods at the grocery store are not really organic since half of them are GMO(Genetically Modified Organic), wonder what they use to genetically modify our so called healthy foods? Not to mention that if you drink tap water...your drinking all the meds that your neighbor possibly flushed down the toilet, and all the chemicals that seeped into the ground from changing vehicle fluids and doing vehicle maintenance and of course ALL the chemicals they use to purify the water. I honestly don't think that anyone know's how dangerous or how good anything is for us these days. A lot of tests, a lot of assumptions, and when it all boils down to it, it really depends on the person. I have known smokers who have lived very happy, healthy and LONG lives without the need for oxygen due to COPD or worrying about cancer, and then I have known people who have smoked for a lesser amount of time than I have(20 yrs) and who lost their battle with lung cancer, heck even people who do not smoke, and have not been around 2nd hand smoking have gotten lung cancer. When it is your time to go, it doesn't matter what you put in your body. I rather be a happy vaper vaping on the flavors I enjoy than worrying to much about it. I could walk out the door to check my mail and fall over dead from natural causes.