anyone here worried about the flavoring chemicals getting into your lungs?

[zoiDman]

I stick to all-natural, organic flavors. And I mix my own juice. No artificial sweeteners either.

Sweeteners seem to be something that is Commonly Overlooked when people discuss Inhalation and Safety.

Funny how there are Hundreds of Pages about how Bad Artificial Sweeteners are Health Forums. But almost No Mention of them here.

 

[TTK]

im very new to vaping but what concerns me a wee bit ,is that if the chinese can put poison into their baby milk powder what may they be putting into our vape juice?

It is my intention to start mixing my own juice

Do you know what happened to the managers responsible for that Chinese incident? And it is a gross mistake to lump all Chinese juice as the same just as you cannot lump all USA juice as the same in regards to ingredients or safety. Now take all of the additives in our USA food that are banned in 100 other countries and reflect on USA safety and the FDA in action.

 

[zoiDman]

A legit concern, but to put it in perspective:

Here's the List of ingredients in RJR cigarettes:
Ingredient, Percentage (max), purpose

Acetanisole 0.001 Flavor
Acetic Acid 0.001 Flavor

...

WaterNASolvent, Processing Aid, Humectan

Not to Defend Cigarettes. Or the Practices of RJR.

But in the Interest of Fairness, the Above list I believe is the Total List of All Chemicals that RJR has or did use in All of there Cigarettes Types and Brands.

Any individual Brand does Not Contain the entire list of Chemicals.

Menthol Cigarettes contain the Majority of the Chemicals on this list.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Sweeteners seem to be something that is Commonly Overlooked when people discuss Inhalation and Safety.

Funny how there are Hundreds of Pages about how Bad Artificial Sweeteners are Health Forums. But almost No Mention of them here.

I was quite lucky as early on I found I had a sensitivity to sweeteners. I'm seeing more vapers these days admit to vaping flavorless. It's really not that bad IMO.

 

[DirewolfUSMC]

A legit concern, but to put it in perspective:

Here's the List of ingredients in RJR cigarettes:
Ingredient, Percentage (max), purpose

Acetanisole 0.001 Flavor
Acetic Acid 0.001 Flavor
Acetoin <0.0001 Flavor
Acetophenone <0.0001 Flavor
2-Acetylpyrazine 0.001 Flavor
2-Acetyl Thiazole 0.001 Flavor
Ammonium Alginate 1.15 Formulation Aid
Ammonium Hydroxide 0.08 In Process pH Adjuster, Flavor
Amyris Oil <0.0001 Flavor
trans-Anethole 0.001 Flavor
Anisaldehyde 0.001 Flavor
Ascorbic Acid <0.0001 Flavor
Benzaldehyde 0.001 Flavor
Benzaldehyde Glyceryl Acetal 0.001 Flavor
Benzyl Alcohol 0.025 Flavor, Solvent
Benzyl Cinnamate 0.001 Flavor
Brown Sugar 2.9 Casing
n-Butyl Isovalerate 0.001 Flavor
Butyric Acid <0.001 Flavor
Caramel (Plain) 0.13 Flavor
Caramel Color 0.01 Flavor
Carbon11.77 Heat Source Constituent Utilized In Tobacco Heating Cigarettes
Carbon Dioxide Not Detectable Processing Aid
Cardamon Oil <0.0001 Flavor
Carob Bean Extract 0.095 Flavor
Carrot Seed Oil Terpeneless 0.001 Flavor
l-Carvone 0.025 Flavor
Cellulose Fiber 6.31 Formulation Aid
Chicory Extract 0.01 Flavor
Chocolate Liquor 0.27 Casing
Cinnamon Bark Oil <0.0001 Flavor
Citric Acid <0.0001 Flavor
Citronella Oil <0.0001 Flavor
Clary Sage Oil 0.001 Flavor
Cocoa (Extract, Powder, Extractive, Distillate) 1.84 Casing, Flavor
Coffee Beans, Ground 0.01 Flavor
Coffee Extract 0.065 Flavor
Coriander Oil 0.001 Flavor
Corn Syrup 0.025 Flavor
beta-Damascenone <0.0001 Flavor
beta-Damascone 0.01 Flavor
delta-Decalactone <0.0001 Flavor
gamma-Decalactone <0.0001 Flavor
Diammonium Phosphate 0.75 Flavor
4,5-Dimethyl-3-Hydroxy-2,5-Dihydrofuran-2-one 0.001 Flavor
2,5-Dimethylpyrazine 0.001 Flavor
Ethyl Acetate 0.001 Flavor
Ethyl Alcohol 0.298Flavor
Ethyl Benzoate <0.0001Flavor
Ethyl Butyrate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Caproate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Cyclotene <0.0001Flavor
Ethyl Heptanoate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Lactate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Levulinate 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Maltol 0.01Flavor
Ethyl Pentanoate 0.001Flavor
Ethyl Phenylacetate <0.0001Flavor
Ethyl Vanillin 0.025Flavor
Ethyl-2-Methylbutyrate 0.01Flavor
2-Ethyl-3,5(or 6)-Dimethylpyrazine 0.001Flavor
5-Ethyl-3-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-2(5H)-Furanone <0.0001Flavor
2-Ethyl-3-Methylpyrazine 0.001Flavor
Eucalyptol 0.01Flavor
Fenugreek Extract0.001Flavor
Fenugreek Seed0.01Flavor
Fig Juice Concentrate0.34Casing
Furaneol0.01Flavor
Geraniol<0.0001Flavor
Geranium Bourbon Oil<0.0001Flavor
Geranyl Acetone0.01Flavor
Glucose0.001Flavor
Glycerides, mixed decanoyl and octanoyl1.92Flavor
Glycerol11.12Humectant
Graphite3.34Heat Source Constituent Utilized In Tobacco Heating Cigarettes
Guar Gum1.8Formulation Aid
gamma-Heptalactone0.001Flavor
Hexanoic Acid0.001Flavor
Hexyl Acetate0.01Flavor
High Fructose Corn Syrup4.49Casing
Honey2.38Casing
Immortelle Extract0.01Flavor
Isoamyl Acetate0.01Flavor
Isoamyl Isovalerate0.01Flavor
Isoamyl Phenylacetate0.01Flavor
Isobutyl Phenylacetate0.01Flavor
Isovaleraldehyde<0.0001Flavor
Isovaleric Acid<0.0001Flavor
Lactic Acid0.025Flavor
Lemon Oil, Terpeneless0.001Flavor
Licorice0.74Casing, Flavor
Licorice Extract Powder0.01Flavor
Lime Oil0.001Flavor
Linalool0.001Flavor
Linalyl Acetate0.001Flavor
Lovage Root0.001Flavor
Maltol0.01Flavor
Mandarin Oil0.001Flavor
Mate Extract<0.0001Flavor
Menthol3.17Flavor
l-Menthone0.001Flavor
2-Methoxy-3-Methyl-Pyrazine0.001Flavor
2-Methoxy-4-Methylphenol0.001Flavor
2-Methyl Pentanoic Acid0.001Flavor
Methyl Salicylate0.001Flavor
Methyl-2-Pyrrolyl Ketone0.001Flavor
6-Methyl-3,5-Heptadien-2-one0.001Flavor
4-Methylacetophenone0.001Flavor
2-Methylbutyric Acid0.001Flavor
Methylcyclopentenolone0.01Flavor
2-Methylpyrazine0.001Flavor
3-Methylvaleric Acid0.001Flavor
Myrrh Extract<0.0001Flavor
Myrrh Oil0.001Flavor
Neroli Bigarade Oil<0.0001Flavor
Nerolidol<0.0001Flavor
gamma-Nonalactone<0.0001Flavor
Octanoic Acid<0.0001Flavor
Orange Oil0.01Flavor
Orange Oil Sweet Terpeneless0.01Flavor
Orange Oil Terpeneless0.01Flavor
Orris Root Extract0.001Flavor
2,3-Pentanedione0.001Flavor
Peppermint Oil, Terpeneless0.05Flavor
Peru Balsam Oil0.001Flavor
Phenylacetic Acid0.001Flavor
Phenylethyl Acetate<0.0001Flavor
Phenylethyl Alcohol<0.0001Flavor
alpha-Pinene0.01Flavor
beta-Pinene0.01Flavor
Piperonal0.01Flavor
Potassium Carbonate2.07Flavor
Potassium Sorbate0.001Preservative
Propyl Acetate<0.0001Flavor
Propylene Glycol1.9Solvent, Humectant, Flavor
Prune Juice Concentrate0.47Casing
Rose Oil Turkish0.001Flavor
Rosemary Oil<0.0001Flavor
Salicylic Aldehyde<0.0001Flavor
Sandalwood Oil, Yellow<0.0001Flavor
Sodium Carbonate0.18Heat Source Constituent Utilized In Tobacco Heating Cigarettes
Sodium Citrate<0.0001Flavor
Spearmint Oil0.38Flavor
Sucrose2.13Casing
Tangerine Oil, Terpeneless0.01Flavor
alpha-Terpineol<0.0001Flavor
Terpinyl Acetate0.001Flavor
5,6,7,8-Tetrahydroquinoxaline0.001Flavor
2,3,5,6-Tetramethylpyrazine0.001Flavor
Triethyl Citrate0.001Flavor
2,6,6-Trimethyl-2-Cyclohexene-1, 4-Dione<0.0001Flavor
2,3,5-Trimethylpyrazine0.001Flavor
delta-Undecalactone<0.0001Flavor
gamma-Undecalactone0.01Flavor
Vanilla Oleoresin0.01Flavor
Vanillin0.05Flavor
Veratraldehyde0.001Flavor
WaterNASolvent, Processing Aid, Humectan

Just add Yellow Dye #5 to that and you have a Twinkie.

 

[Heavyrocker]

GMO is in everything now,Monsanto is down right evil.

 

[niczgreat]

Hi,

There are ALOT of flavor juices out there and I really like some of them, but I am worried about with actually those flavorings are and if there are any side effects of sucking those chemicals into your lungs.

I know that vaping is generally safer than smoking but could vaping unknown chemical flavorings persent a higher risk than vaping unflavored juices?

Also do you think that USA made juices are safer than say EU/ Asia made juices. I know there is no regulation for juices and that is quite scary if you really think about it.

thanks

I'm allergic to the artificial flavors and only vape organic.

 

[Jimi D.]

I used to be a smoker. No.. Chemicals don't scare me !

 

[mkbilbo]

Do you know what happened to the managers responsible for that Chinese incident? And it is a gross mistake to lump all Chinese juice as the same just as you cannot lump all USA juice as the same in regards to ingredients or safety. Now take all of the additives in our USA food that are banned in 100 other countries and reflect on USA safety and the FDA in action.

Yeah... I imagine it would make FDA hearings a lot more interesting if we did the same thing.

<chortle>

 

[Ldybug102070]

All i can say is wow. Never seen it in black and white before. That is a lot of crap. So glad I have been analog free for one year and eight months now!!!

 

[zoiDman]

I was quite lucky as early on I found I had a sensitivity to sweeteners. I'm seeing more vapers these days admit to vaping flavorless. It's really not that bad IMO.

I think that Both Unflavored/Sweetened and 0mg is Gaining Momentum. I myself use 0mg more nights than not. Find that I sleep a Little Better. I don't sleep all that well. Never have.

I think when it is all said and done, that inhaling Some Flavorings will be shown to be just as Hazardous, if not worse, as Nicotine in the Long Term. The problem is which ones?

And will Flavored e-Liquids be around long enough to even know which are benign?

 

[vape-addict]

nope and don't care!!

 

[Train2]

Didn't realize that - it does look like there's a substantially "cleaner" list for specific brands.
You CAN see ingredients for specific brands on their website. And PMorris has a list too.

Here's what I smoked for the last couple years of smoking before I stopped:
Tobacco
Water
Sugars (Sucrose and/or Invert Sugar and/or High Fructose Corn Syrup)
Propylene Glycol
Glycerol
Diammonium Phosphate
Cocoa and Cocoa Products
Ammonium Hydroxide
Carob Bean and Extract
Natural and Artificial Flavors

Not to Defend Cigarettes. Or the Practices of RJR.

But in the Interest of Fairness, the Above list I believe is the Total List of All Chemicals that RJR has or did use in All of there Cigarettes Types and Brands.

Any individual Brand does Not Contain the entire list of Chemicals.

Menthol Cigarettes contain the Majority of the Chemicals on this list.

 

[classwife]

I have really cut back on flavors. When I do use them, I only flavor lightly (DIY)...I use a lot of unflavored - and a lot of 0 nic.

 

[zoiDman]

I have really cut back on flavors. When I do use them, I only flavor lightly (DIY)...I use a lot of unflavored - and a lot of 0 nic.

Yeah... But your Different CW.

Anyone who has 38,273 posts since May 2010 does have much time to use an e-Cigarette. You're tying All the Time.

 

[AgentAnia]

Every time you smell something (car exhaust, cooking aromas, perfume, air fresheners, dryer sheets, and so on) you're inhaling chemicals! Vaporized chemicals... That's what creates the aroma. Doesn't seem to me your lungs know the difference between the aroma when you open the oven door to a pan of sugar cookies and when you vape vanilla e-liquid. Just sayin'...

 

[zoiDman]

Didn't realize that - it does look like there's a substantially "cleaner" list for specific brands.
You CAN see ingredients for specific brands on their website. And PMorris has a list too.

Here's what I smoked for the last couple years of smoking before I stopped:
Tobacco
Water
Sugars (Sucrose and/or Invert Sugar and/or High Fructose Corn Syrup)
Propylene Glycol
Glycerol
Diammonium Phosphate
Cocoa and Cocoa Products
Ammonium Hydroxide
Carob Bean and Extract
Natural and Artificial Flavors

Your List looks a little more Realistic.

Hey I'm the First to admit it. I think I was more Addicted to the Chemicals that they put into Cigarettes than I was to Nicotine. And I don't like the Premise and Rationalizations that BT has used as to Why they put these Chemicals into their Tobacco.

But I don't blame BT. They are Heartless !%#@%&'s who could Care Less about you or Me. As long as we have enough Strength to put our Money on the Counter to buy One More Pack of Smokes.

No. I Blame the FDA for letting those !%#@%& Tobacco Companies do what they Did/Do.

 

[zoiDman]

BTW - One thing I find Ironic is that Many of the People who are Against e-cigarettes note is that e-Liquids contain Propylene Glycol.

But they have been putting Propylene Glycol into Tobacco for Years on end. And that Propylene Glycol breaks down to some Very Nasty Constitutes at the Temperatures seen on the end of a Burning Cigarette.

But that is OK because of what?

Tax Dollars Maybe? Tax Dollars and Campaign Contributions?

 

[zoiDman]

Every time you smell something (car exhaust, cooking aromas, perfume, air fresheners, dryer sheets, and so on) you're inhaling chemicals! Vaporized chemicals... That's what creates the aroma. Doesn't seem to me your lungs know the difference between the aroma when you open the oven door to a pan of sugar cookies and when you vape vanilla e-liquid. Just sayin'...

Yeah... But how many people do you see walking around smelling a Dryer Sheet 24-7?

I hear what you are saying. But Dosage Frequency is something that should be Considered when talking about if something is Safe or Not.

 

[Tornadotwist]

I don't think I could go flavorless, but whatever flavors I do use, I never add any extra to, and they are mild flavors to begin with. I'm working my way down to 0% nicotine, my order of juice I put in today is for 12mg and 6mg. I started with 24mg with the cigalikes and gas station e-cigs. Is the flavorless just like breathing air or is it bacco type flavoring and no other crazy flavrs such as coffee etc...?