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Anyone know anything about the electronic cigars and electronic pipes?

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  1. kalmakazee

    kalmakazee Full Member

    Sep 29, 2008
    Hey everyone. :)

    I have 2 different electronic cigarettes that I am quite satisfied with. I have the M-401 Gold Edition and I have the DSE901b. I have also tried 2 other model electronic cigarettes that I REALLY wasn't satisfied with.

    The problem is I am used to smoking Marlboro Reds, L&M Lights, Camel Lights, and Parliament Lights and I don't feel that any of these electronic cigarettes gives that satisfied enough craving throat hit (or wutever it's called) and blows the smoke vapor that i would be satisfied with and let's not forget that these batteries die every 3 hours.

    I was wondering if anyone has ever tried the electronic cigars and pipes and if people are satisfied with them and if so what model do you have and where did you order it from??

    Also what is the strongest, (highest dosage of nicotine) sweetest, smoothest, and most realistic cigarette tasting e-liquid, and one with DELICIOUS variety of flavors out there that any of you tried and one that won't kill the atomizers??

    My BEST experience so far was ordering from Shawn at www . litecigusa. com. Also just recently I was having a nice phone chat with a seller who sells many electronic supplies on eBay and she claims to have been one of the first selling electronic liquids. She seemed REALLY nice and I am waiting for my order and I can update once I receive my liquids if anyone is interested.

    Thanks everyone and please give me your honest opinions. I REALLY appreciate it!! :)

    P.S. I also want to let newbies out there know, or those people that are curious but NEVER tried an electronic cigarette before that these devices ACTUALLY helps quit smoking. I went from a pack and a half a day down to maybe smoking One to Two cigarettes every couple of days. :)
  2. leaford

    leaford Vaping Master ECF Veteran

  3. ZambucaLu

    ZambucaLu ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Nov 23, 2008
    Central NY, USA
    Great video Leaford! :thumb: I'm waiting to see the black pipe and spare atomizers from Litecig.

    BTW...I have 2 female cockatiels and they went nuts when they heard your bird chirp. I couldn't get them to shut the hell up! lol

  4. yo han

    yo han Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2008
    the Dutch mountains
    I've done a review for the 601 as well and my experience was a little less positive than leaford's.
    You can check the Google (silly) translated version here.
  5. leaford

    leaford Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Did I understand that last bit right, you have an e=Pipe that you think works better?
  6. yo han

    yo han Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2008
    the Dutch mountains
    Absolutely. But when the translation would be correct you would read that I'm as much surprised about that myself as you are :)
    My E-cig pipe works phenomally since February this year. Everyday use (couple of hours a day). I've drowned it with all kinds of liquid I could lay my hands on and it's still working as good as it did on day 1. I guess someone at the factory made a mistake and accidentally produced the best pipe ever ;)
  7. judasburrito

    judasburrito Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 11, 2008

    • Hoisting: At 1 copy light, the other a high point attack.
    • By lifting heavy liquid leakage in the foot: No
    • Smoke production: Sufficient
    • Taste / Vulture: Depends on used ampoules
    Well all of my questions are answered!
    (I love google translate!)

    Hope your foot leakage problems clear up, yo han! Good luck with the vulture.
  8. leaford

    leaford Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Don't worry, the high point attack should take care of the Vulture. :p
  9. nakli_dhumrapan

    nakli_dhumrapan Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 4, 2008
    As long as you don't have heavy liquid leakage in your foot.
  10. judasburrito

    judasburrito Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 11, 2008
    Perhaps the aggrieved foot can be drained into the empty ampoules?

    That's what I call killing two vultures with one stone!
  11. kalmakazee

    kalmakazee Full Member

    Sep 29, 2008
    Hey everyone,

    I am so sorry for the late response. I was waiting to receive an email telling me I had some responses on my thread. I get sooo many emails every day to my email address that i didn't realize that i had some responses.

    EXCELLENT review by Leaford. I left you a comment on your youtube review video. :)

    and also thank you for your GREAT review yo han. :)

    Thank you both so so much though it appears that you both have 2 opposite reviews, lol!! :)


    Do I have to puff the CRAP out of the DSE601 pipe like I have to do with the electronic cigarettes to feel the vapor actually hit my throat?? I wanna get as realistic a hit as i can possibly get as if I am smoking a REAL cigarette.

    How often do I have to refill this pipe with liquid??

    Is there REALLY such a difference between electronic pipes as there is between electronic cigarettes??

    Is also owned by

    I could understand people having different reviews on these electronic devices. Everyone in the forums seem to LOVE the dse901b electronic cigarette and I own that one as well as the M-401 Gold Edition and I purchased both of them at and I like the M-401 - Gold Edition MUCH MUCH better than the dse901b.

    I LOVE doing business with Shawn at litecigusa because I have had ONLY a positive experience dealing with him and his website. Shawn gives the BEST customer service. :)

    Thanks everyone who commented. I REALLY appreciated it!! :)

    Anymore comments are ALWAYS welcomed here :)
  12. leaford

    leaford Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Welcome to the board. Glad you found your way here, I rarely check my Youtube comments. Too many dumbasses.

    Anyway, it's not that surprising, really, to find different opinions. There's always some individual units that are better than others and some that are worse. I had a good one for my first 601 review. I am testing two other new units now for a follow up review, and one is better than the other. Likewise, I've had 901's that produced penstyle level vapor, and others that produced mini sized vapor. And sometimes you get one that just doesn't work well if at all. No reason that would be different for e-pipes than any other e-cig.

    No one review can give you a real idea of the average, they just add data points. It's the balance of all the comments, all the other people who chime in on the thread and say how good theirs are, too, or how theirs sucks, that gives you more of an overall picture. I think the 601 has done pretty well by that score.

    And as to the draw, it's very light, so no you don't have to puff the crap out of it. Actually, with one of the ones I'm retesting now I find a slow smooth easy draw produces much more vapor than a hard fast one.

    But with almost all e-cigs you have to inhale for a good 3 seconds AT LEAST to build up enough vapor. For one thing, during the first second, the atomizer is still warming up and there's no vapor yet.

    The cartridges last me most of the day when I'm using it by itself, all day if I have another e-cig sharing duties. It holds 2ml, and most cartridges drain pretty completely. I've had a few bad cartridges that drained all their liquid out, flooding the atomizer and causing leaking. And I've found several in my latest batch that do not drain effeciently, and have to be topped off every couple hours. So if you find yourself having to drip or top off frequently, it may be bad cartridges. But otherwise one should last 9 to 12 hours of moderate to heavy use.

    And Litecig and LitecigUSA are partners, Litecig serves Europe, LitecigUSA, the US.
  13. kalmakazee

    kalmakazee Full Member

    Sep 29, 2008
    @ leaford

    I REALLY appreciate all of this AMAZING information you are sharing with me. :)

    You are probably going to think i am sooo annoying but these are my last couple of question, or at least I hope these are my last couple of questions. :D

    Can you refill these electronic pipes with liquid or do you have to use only cartridges?? The reason I ask is because those cartridges are a complete ripoff.

    How much did you pay for the 601 pipe?? Also did you ever try the electronic cigars?? Last question what type of liquid do you like and where do you order your liquid from??

    Thanks for all your AMAZING help on this. I'm probably one of the most pickiest people when it comes to ordering something that i need or like, lol. :)

    I also think you should post a youtube review on liquids. I think you did a GREAT job with your review on the electronic pipes. :)
  14. Bertrand

    Bertrand Super Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 27, 2008
    I think I saw one of his on the freesmoke e-liquid. There may be others.

    leaford: hehe.. you've got about 1% youtube comments about e-cigarettes, and 99% about mike.
  15. baalel

    baalel Full Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 11, 2008
    Watford, UK
    Refilling a used cartrige with bottled liquid is the way I go, though I am having to use an e-cigar cartridge with the mouthpiece removed in my e-pipe as my pipe came without any carts included by 'mistake'
  16. The Amuse Bouche

    The Amuse Bouche New Member

    Dec 6, 2008
    London, England
    @ leaford

    mate you were the one that started me vaping and off the old cigs with your youtube reviews!
  17. GiantsFan

    GiantsFan Full Member

    Dec 28, 2008
    San Antonio, Texas
    the e-cigar at does the trick for me...I have a penstyle, 901b and the e-cigar from steve at puresmoker & the cigar is hands down the best vapor-producer, the throat hit is milder than the 901, but i'm using cherry coke flavoring, so that could be it...i was using the menthol from puresmoker (still am I guess) & that one had a great throat hit...
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