Anyone Try Lower Resistance Carts w/Volt?

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According to the vaping power charts, a 3.6 volt battery can take anywhere from about 1.8 to 3.2 ohm carto's/clearo's. I've only used 3.0 boges and the standard SI carto's so far. Has anyone tried lower resistance carto's with their Volt? What are the advantages/disavantages? Better TH, more flavor, more vapor, but shorter battery life? Just curious, exploring different options.
 

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According to the vaping power charts, a 3.6 volt battery can take anywhere from about 1.8 to 3.2 ohm carto's/clearo's. I've only used 3.0 boges and the standard SI carto's so far. Has anyone tried lower resistance carto's with their Volt? What are the advantages/disavantages? Better TH, more flavor, more vapor, but shorter battery life? Just curious, exploring different options.

I got a 510/901 adapter and hooked up a 1.7 ohm shorty carto. The volt I have is an automatic, and it was making a weird clicking sound when I was drawing on it... it was an amazing vape for such a small battery, but I was afraid it would be toast if I kept doing it.
 

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I got a 510/901 adapter and hooked up a 1.7 ohm shorty carto. The volt I have is an automatic, and it was making a weird clicking sound when I was drawing on it... it was an amazing vape for such a small battery, but I was afraid it would be toast if I kept doing it.

According to the chart, 1.7 is right on the threshold. Maybe that was a little too low? As I wrote in another thread, I just got a "Chibi" tank with a 3.0 boge cart (808 threaded, so no adapter necessary) and I absolutely love it. They also have the same tank w/w 2.0 boge cart, which is well within the range of the Volt battery, so I think I'm going to give that a try.
 

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Just keep in mind that Volt batteries are regulated and protected. A heavy current load can probably trigger the protection cicuit and will cut down on the time the battery can be vaped. Internal resistance of the battery gets involved and it will start to get warmer than may be normal or acceptable.



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You could also produce enough overload to "kill" some of the protection circuits and that can get unpredictable. If that does happen at the very least the battery will be toast. Under short circuit conditions even a 78mm/320mah battery can produce one heck of a lot of power. I'm not saying anything will go wrong, catch fire or explode, but there are risks involved that should be taken into account. If I were going to fool with LR atomizers in any form I'd do it with a VV battery and start out at a very low voltage rather than hit it with 3.6 volts right from the start, but then again, I'm getting even more cautious in my old age LOL.


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Are those charts wrong about 3.6 volts handling 1.8 ohms? You seem to be contradicting them.

those charts do not take into account internal battery size(capacity). And size really matters here :blush: It's perfectly OK to vape large (say 18650 mod batteries rated at ~2000mAh) batteries at 3.6V and 1.8oHm. But for Volt 320mAh internal battery this same combination of voltage and resistance is way too stressful and will shorten battery life.
 

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Is it dual coil? If its dual coil then yes, the ohm of each individual coil is less than the advertized ohm of the carto and dual coils are way too stressful for a volt battery. But you can get away with vaping a 2.0ohm carto on a volt, or a 2.5 for long session battery life. A lower ohm (lower than 2) carto on the volt will result in lower session battery life and lower over-all life of your battery and can also be a hazard.
 

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well, by shortened battery life I meant not the vape time on a single charge but a number of discharge-charge cycles. In other words, with LR carto Volt battery will not last promised 300 recharge cycles.

PS. 2oHms with 650mAh battery should be more or less OK


Sure, I understood what you meant, thanks. If I have to buy two, three, or even four batteries a year instead of one, that wouldn't be a problem. Still much cheaper than what I was spending on the smokes!
 

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Ok, I asked about this subject on the Vet's forum. For anyone interested here's the response to my question "Is it Safe to Vape a 1.8-2.0 ohm carto on a 'Volt' X2 650mah 3.6v Automatic Battery?"

The short answer is: Sort of.

It's not going to explode, if that's what you're worried about. The reason that people tell you not to do it is because it can short out your battery. It's not that it's an auto battery...it's the capacity. As you decrease the resistance (ohms) you increase the pressure on the battery (amps), the batteries that you have aren't really rated for a high drain. Once you start exceeding what they're made to do, you will severely shorten the lifespan of the battery. There's also a chance that the battery will just give up and stop working all together.

The other problem is that cartos have a tolerance of +/- 0.2ohms. So your 2.0 ohm carto could be 1.8-2.2. If you decided to go lower and get a 1.7ohm carto, you could be vaping with a 1.5ohm carto, or a 1.9ohm... Also bear in mind that the resistancce of a carto will change a bit as it gets gunked up and used.

I've used 1.7ohm cartos on my eGo 650mAh batteries, which still work. I'm not suggesting that you do so though. If you wanted to go for a lower resistance, I'd recommend picking up some sort of a mod with replaceable batteries. It'll save you in the long run, when you can buy a new 6 dollar battery instead of a whole new setup. (18650 is the preferred size, since it offers good battery life without being gigantic.)


So, at long as it ain't gonna blow up, that's good enough for moi to at least give it a try. I also found some boge 2.0-2.4 carto's, gonna try them out, too.
 

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The vape time will also be reduced. 650ma is 650ma so if you're drawing say ~1.4 amps with a 3.6 ohm coil versus (to keep it simple) ~2.8 amps with a 1.8 ohm coil you will, technically cut the useable vape time in half. The double current will also cause the battery to heat, internally, about twice as much stressing the battery much more. The internal heating is true for any battery, X2 or 18650 or even a Die Hard. This also assumes the internal regulator in the X2 doesn't sense the lowered resistance as a short and shut the battery down, automatic or manual.
 
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