Apollo E-cig contest/giveaway thread!!

[Kprthevapr]

Lol... We always joked that if guys had to go through childbirth, there would be no overpopulation problems!

If guys had a menstrual cycle, they'd never make it to adulthood lmao!

 

[redrebel821]

If guys had a menstrual cycle, they'd never make it to adulthood lmao!

Lol..no chit!

 

[cigatron]

If guys had a menstrual cycle, they'd never make it to adulthood lmao!

Lol..no chit!

USAF 1827EIS checking in. Spent most of my time upgrading electronic security systems at nuke sites and on the DEW line in the arctic.

There were lots of Greek civil service workers up in Greenland that spent 6 months on duty/6 months off. While off duty they were guys, while on duty they were.....well....girls I guess.

 

[redrebel821]

USAF 1827EIS checking in. Spent most of my time upgrading electronic security systems at nuke sites and on the DEW line in the arctic.

There were lots of Greek civil service workers up in Greenland that spent 6 months on duty/6 months off. While off duty they were guys, while on duty they were.....well....girls I guess.

There we got us a FlyBoy!!! All branches present and accounted for.

 

[KatzWh1skers]

Salute to all our veterans ..on this thread ..and everywhere.
Last class of the Womens Army Corps ...though we didn't wear the brown boots...we wore those black one-size fits all ugly things that were hard and stiff and tore up your feet.
Any way you slice it, war is hell. My folks were 8 and 10 when WW2 started. Only they experienced the war from the civilian side of things in Germany. No one was safe from the horrors of war...be it the Americans , the Brits, or the Nazi's ..they came, they took, to resist meant death. My Dad was 16 when he was drafted into the German Navy near the end of the war. He was destined to serve as a cook on a U-Boat ..and as history tells...at the end of the war, u-boat duty was a death sentence. But the war ended before he shipped out. His older brother died as part of the German troops that attacked Russia. My grandmother had a pic of a wooden cross on her wall..marking his grave where he was buried in the wastelands of Russia.
There were many relatives and in-laws who served on the German side in WW2 ...one disarmed mines up in the North Sea around Norway..what he liked to call the "A**hole of the Earth" . When my Dad would have too much to drink at night and happened on some old war movie ...he'd curse and call the Brits names ...He was remembering the horrors of Dresden. In War..the civilians always take it on the chin.
It saddens me when I come across people who don't like me...won't have anything to do with me ...just because I'm German.... and I got called alot of names in school ...Nazi...Jew killer . It didn't matter that I'm first gen American...or that my parents were children ..or that their families were farmers. Would it matter that myself and my brother served honorably in the US Military? Would it matter that both my Grandmother and Grandfather spent time in concentration camps? Or that my Grandmother was blinded in one of many air raids. Probably not.
It's sad that the children ..the innocents ..are still made to suffer ..for things they didn't do. But such is the legacy of war.

 

[Ladybear]

My grandfather, a British soldier, was part of the Normandy invasion. I still have postcards and letters he wrote to my grandmother and my mother while in the trenches. It really opens your eyes to read them what they went through. He always held much resentment towards Americans after that war and it didn't help much when his only daughter went off and married an American serviceman. He wouldn't even come to America to see us because his greatest fear was to die on American soil.

OH no - and he missed so much by not visiting your family!!! It is strange how people hold grudges and hope he softened up to your dad

Salute to all our veterans ..on this thread ..and everywhere.
Last class of the Womens Army Corps ...though we didn't wear the brown boots...we wore those black one-size fits all ugly things that were hard and stiff and tore up your feet.
Any way you slice it, war is hell. My folks were 8 and 10 when WW2 started. Only they experienced the war from the civilian side of things in Germany. No one was safe from the horrors of war...be it the Americans , the Brits, or the Nazi's ..they came, they took, to resist meant death. My Dad was 16 when he was drafted into the German Navy near the end of the war. He was destined to serve as a cook on a U-Boat ..and as history tells...at the end of the war, u-boat duty was a death sentence. But the war ended before he shipped out. His older brother died as part of the German troops that attacked Russia. My grandmother had a pic of a wooden cross on her wall..marking his grave where he was buried in the wastelands of Russia.
There were many relatives and in-laws who served on the German side in WW2 ...one disarmed mines up in the North Sea around Norway..what he liked to call the "A**hole of the Earth" . When my Dad would have too much to drink at night and happened on some old war movie ...he'd curse and call the Brits names ...He was remembering the horrors of Dresden. In War..the civilians always take it on the chin.
It saddens me when I come across people who don't like me...won't have anything to do with me ...just because I'm German.... and I got called alot of names in school ...Nazi...Jew killer . It didn't matter that I'm first gen American...or that my parents were children ..or that their families were farmers. Would it matter that myself and my brother served honorably in the US Military? Would it matter that both my Grandmother and Grandfather spent time in concentration camps? Or that my Grandmother was blinded in one of many air raids. Probably not.
It's sad that the children ..the innocents ..are still made to suffer ..for things they didn't do. But such is the legacy of war.

Thank you so much for serving and I'm sorry that you had to put up with all the bullying! I think it was a lot worse years ago because everyone always asked what nationality you were....even when I started dating, my parents would ask what nationality and I don't think they really cared ...it was just something they did. Yet it never came to my mind to ask my children what nationality any of their friends were. Back then there were neighborhoods and I grew up in the German part of town...it was silly but true

 

[redrebel821]

Salute to all our veterans ..on this thread ..and everywhere.
Last class of the Womens Army Corps ...though we didn't wear the brown boots...we wore those black one-size fits all ugly things that were hard and stiff and tore up your feet.
Any way you slice it, war is hell. My folks were 8 and 10 when WW2 started. Only they experienced the war from the civilian side of things in Germany. No one was safe from the horrors of war...be it the Americans , the Brits, or the Nazi's ..they came, they took, to resist meant death. My Dad was 16 when he was drafted into the German Navy near the end of the war. He was destined to serve as a cook on a U-Boat ..and as history tells...at the end of the war, u-boat duty was a death sentence. But the war ended before he shipped out. His older brother died as part of the German troops that attacked Russia. My grandmother had a pic of a wooden cross on her wall..marking his grave where he was buried in the wastelands of Russia.
There were many relatives and in-laws who served on the German side in WW2 ...one disarmed mines up in the North Sea around Norway..what he liked to call the "A**hole of the Earth" . When my Dad would have too much to drink at night and happened on some old war movie ...he'd curse and call the Brits names ...He was remembering the horrors of Dresden. In War..the civilians always take it on the chin.
It saddens me when I come across people who don't like me...won't have anything to do with me ...just because I'm German.... and I got called alot of names in school ...Nazi...Jew killer . It didn't matter that I'm first gen American...or that my parents were children ..or that their families were farmers. Would it matter that myself and my brother served honorably in the US Military? Would it matter that both my Grandmother and Grandfather spent time in concentration camps? Or that my Grandmother was blinded in one of many air raids. Probably not.
It's sad that the children ..the innocents ..are still made to suffer ..for things they didn't do. But such is the legacy of war.

I'm sorry you got called names. One of my best friends in high school was born in Germany, her dad was a GI, mom was German. She got called names, too. Although I have tons of relatives in Russia, Poland, and Germany, and many were killed during the war, I've never blamed Germans, I blame Hitler and his goons. They were the ones that had the choices, and made the decisions.

And I had to wear tose hideous black boots, too. With solid OD green fatigues. The camo didn't come till the very end of my last tour, and even then we didn't get the good boots....lol...

 

[Ladybear]

My grandfather (on my mom's side) was an army cook in the 1940's or 1950's. That was right after he arrived in the US with his brothers. This was when the Asian Exclusion Act was just repealed but immigration from China was still highly restricted, so males were allowed to come to the US, but they could not bring their families. So his wife and kids (including my mom) was left behind. The US wanted the cheap labor force, but didn't want them having families here. Still have old photos of him in his army uniform with his Irish girlfriend. After the immigration laws was loosened in the 60's, he was finally able to sponsor my family to come to the US.

My dad was in the Chinese army fighting against the Japanese during WWII and then fought against Mao and the Communists after WWII. For decades he still hated the Japanese and would not eat at a Japanese restaurant or buy Japanese products. When the Communists won and drove Chiang Kai Shek's Nationalists from China to Taiwan, he left with them and left behind his first wife and his two sons in China. The Taiwanese government then sent him to Hong Kong to spy on mainland China. That's where he met my mom.....she was a young mom with small kids, so it didn't raise any suspicions when she traveled to China to visit her sister. So my mom would visit China, meet people there who would give info to her, and she would return to Hong Kong and pass that info to my dad. This part of my family history I never knew until my adult years. My entire life I thought my dad was an accountant because that was what was written on my birth certificate. Since the communist government couldn't get to my dad, they did the next best thing....they went after his family. His two sons were put into a reeducation labor camp for a number of years. The younger of the two was eventually caught trying to sneak out of China and was executed. The older was finally allowed to emigrate from China to the US in the early 80's.

Oh my goodness, you really have a lot of history behind you ...thanks for sharing..very interesting!

 

[cigatron]

I'm your huckleberry.... 1/2 German myself. My mom played in bomb craters in West Germany as a young teenager. The craters were made by East German V1 and V2 rockets that fell short of thier intended targets in England. I got some grief for being German in grade school too. Kids can be so mean.

My dad met my mom while stationed at Ramstein AFB. She was a Doctor's Assistant in Landstuhl, a small neighboring town. She was also a smorgasbord cook, which was awesome growing up!! I ate like a king and can't remember every eating the same meal more than 2 or 3 times a year. She passed away many years ago but her recipes live on!!

 

[Ladybear]

Step children weren't as common then. It was such a different time.

It sure was a different time...just reading all this is fascinating to me!! My maternal grandparents were born here and my fraternal grandparents came to this country in the 1920's ..they were from a little town in Hungary right on the Austria/Hungary border. They lived in a Hungarian neighborhood ..so funny but I guess if nationalities stayed together they didn't have to worry about the language barrier although my grandfather spoke 5 different languages which is uncommon in this day and age. My parents spoke a lot of German at home which I could understand but not speak too well.

 

[redrebel821]

I'm your huckleberry.... 1/2 German myself. My mom played in bomb craters in West Germany as a young teenager. The craters were made by East German V1 and V2 rockets that fell short of thier intended targets in England. I got some grief for being German in grade school too. Kids can be so mean.

My dad met my mom while stationed at Ramstein AFB. She was a Doctor's Assistant in Landstuhl, a small neighboring town. She was also a smorgasbord cook, which was awesome growing up!! I ate like a king and can't remember every eating the same meal more than 2 or 3 times a year. She passed away many years ago but her recipes live on!!

As a little kid, we lived next door to a restaurant owned by German immigrants. Oh, we ate very well after school. We stopped by when we got off the bus and Mrs. Schoene always had yummies.

 

[Kprthevapr]

 

[jseah]

Salute to all our veterans ..on this thread ..and everywhere.
Last class of the Womens Army Corps ...though we didn't wear the brown boots...we wore those black one-size fits all ugly things that were hard and stiff and tore up your feet.
Any way you slice it, war is hell. My folks were 8 and 10 when WW2 started. Only they experienced the war from the civilian side of things in Germany. No one was safe from the horrors of war...be it the Americans , the Brits, or the Nazi's ..they came, they took, to resist meant death. My Dad was 16 when he was drafted into the German Navy near the end of the war. He was destined to serve as a cook on a U-Boat ..and as history tells...at the end of the war, u-boat duty was a death sentence. But the war ended before he shipped out. His older brother died as part of the German troops that attacked Russia. My grandmother had a pic of a wooden cross on her wall..marking his grave where he was buried in the wastelands of Russia.
There were many relatives and in-laws who served on the German side in WW2 ...one disarmed mines up in the North Sea around Norway..what he liked to call the "A**hole of the Earth" . When my Dad would have too much to drink at night and happened on some old war movie ...he'd curse and call the Brits names ...He was remembering the horrors of Dresden. In War..the civilians always take it on the chin.
It saddens me when I come across people who don't like me...won't have anything to do with me ...just because I'm German.... and I got called alot of names in school ...Nazi...Jew killer . It didn't matter that I'm first gen American...or that my parents were children ..or that their families were farmers. Would it matter that myself and my brother served honorably in the US Military? Would it matter that both my Grandmother and Grandfather spent time in concentration camps? Or that my Grandmother was blinded in one of many air raids. Probably not.
It's sad that the children ..the innocents ..are still made to suffer ..for things they didn't do. But such is the legacy of war.

A really good read is Stephen Ambrose's "Citizen Soldier". Rather than focusing on the decisions made by the generals, the story is a compilation of all of the individual experiences of the ordinary grunt. He interviewed literally hundreds of vets to compile the stories he included in his book. For the GI's who fought their way from Normandy, through France, up into Holland, and then into Germany and the end of the war, many felt that the Germans were the most like Americans. The Dutch were very friendly and was glad to see the Allies arrive. After the shooting stopped, the French civilians would wait for the Allies to come in, clean up and rebuild for them. With the Germans, once the shooting stopped, they would come out and start cleaning up and rebuilding themselves.

 

[Marina2]

Salute to all our veterans ..on this thread ..and everywhere.
Last class of the Womens Army Corps ...though we didn't wear the brown boots...we wore those black one-size fits all ugly things that were hard and stiff and tore up your feet.
Any way you slice it, war is hell. My folks were 8 and 10 when WW2 started. Only they experienced the war from the civilian side of things in Germany. No one was safe from the horrors of war...be it the Americans , the Brits, or the Nazi's ..they came, they took, to resist meant death. My Dad was 16 when he was drafted into the German Navy near the end of the war. He was destined to serve as a cook on a U-Boat ..and as history tells...at the end of the war, u-boat duty was a death sentence. But the war ended before he shipped out. His older brother died as part of the German troops that attacked Russia. My grandmother had a pic of a wooden cross on her wall..marking his grave where he was buried in the wastelands of Russia.
There were many relatives and in-laws who served on the German side in WW2 ...one disarmed mines up in the North Sea around Norway..what he liked to call the "A**hole of the Earth" . When my Dad would have too much to drink at night and happened on some old war movie ...he'd curse and call the Brits names ...He was remembering the horrors of Dresden. In War..the civilians always take it on the chin.
It saddens me when I come across people who don't like me...won't have anything to do with me ...just because I'm German.... and I got called alot of names in school ...Nazi...Jew killer . It didn't matter that I'm first gen American...or that my parents were children ..or that their families were farmers. Would it matter that myself and my brother served honorably in the US Military? Would it matter that both my Grandmother and Grandfather spent time in concentration camps? Or that my Grandmother was blinded in one of many air raids. Probably not.
It's sad that the children ..the innocents ..are still made to suffer ..for things they didn't do. But such is the legacy of war.

It's so interesting to read all the different aspects of war that our families faced. The old folks do remain bitter and closed minded to the horrors of war that ALL parties
experienced. My grandfather never knew his daughter's children and we never met him either due to his hatred for Americans... a grudge he held since WW II and took to his grave. My grandmother, sweetest woman in the world, did come over frequently. She was very close to us and our mother.

Such a shame you were bullied because of your nationality... kids are cruel (the cruelest, lol) but they're only parroting what they hear from their parents.

Happy Veteran's Day to you Katz!! Thank you for your service to our country. Just can't imagine our Katz being called a Nazi... smh.

 

[cigatron]

A really good read is Stephen Ambrose's "Citizen Soldier". Rather than focusing on the decisions made by the generals, the story is a compilation of all of the individual experiences of the ordinary grunt. He interviewed literally hundreds of vets to compile the stories he included in his book. For the GI's who fought their way from Normandy, through France, up into Holland, and then into Germany and the end of the war, many felt that the Germans were the most like Americans. The Dutch were very friendly and was glad to see the Allies arrive. After the shooting stopped, the French civilians would wait for the Allies to come in, clean up and rebuild for them. With the Germans, once the shooting stopped, they would come out and start cleaning up and rebuilding themselves.

Sounds interesting. I'll give it a read.

 

[Coolloser]

First world tank vaper problems; I want to try a different juice but my tank is still half full!

 

[redrebel821]

I can't hear that without tearing up...

 

[Ladybear]

A really good read is Stephen Ambrose's "Citizen Soldier". Rather than focusing on the decisions made by the generals, the story is a compilation of all of the individual experiences of the ordinary grunt. He interviewed literally hundreds of vets to compile the stories he included in his book. For the GI's who fought their way from Normandy, through France, up into Holland, and then into Germany and the end of the war, many felt that the Germans were the most like Americans. The Dutch were very friendly and was glad to see the Allies arrive. After the shooting stopped, the French civilians would wait for the Allies to come in, clean up and rebuild for them. With the Germans, once the shooting stopped, they would come out and start cleaning up and rebuilding themselves.

I really should get that for hubby too ...he loves anything ww2 and he will be laid up from hip surgery for a couple weeks. I wrote it down ..thanks. I don't visit bookstores anymore as I read on my kindle but I would get the hard copy for him.

 

[Ladybear]

I can't hear that without tearing up...

Me too!!

 

[redrebel821]