Which is better and why? Ihsve the vtube and I love it so far and the price was great.. $75 for the stainless steel model.
Apollo vtube vs provari?
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i will take my lavatube over the provari any day.... got to test out one at a local shop and it was nice and had a very solid feel to it, but it was just too much click this many times for this function then click this many times for this.... i like simple, i may eventually get a provari, but that will be after i get the lavatube 2.0 and the zmax(prodarwin)
The lavatube works great, I have a version of it from vaporbeast.com but the top is not sealed, allowing for liquid to drip down into the electronics, and eventually (I'm talking months and months of use.. longer if you clean the top regularly) break the electronics, causing you to have to replace the entire unit. The button also gets very fidgety after a while. The provari in comparison is just an incredibly well made, long lasting product. hence the price. I wish I had saved and bought one instead of just buying a lavatube because I wanted to get rid of my eGo as soon as possible.
I have a Lava Tube and Provari and the Provari wins hands down. The LT just feels cheap and doesn't have the build quality. You also don't have to worry about voltage drop with the Provari, what it shows is what you're getting. My Lava Tube also has a clicky button which I hate on PVs. That's not really factored into my opinion here (since many people like clicky buttons), but I feel it's worth noting.
I bought my Lava Tube first and wasn't that impressed with it. I used it a bunch in the beginning but went back to my box mods pretty quick after the newness wore off. It's not a bad mod and it works fine, I just don't like it that much. I'd rather spend $140 on another blemished Provari than $50 on a new Lava Tube. If my Lava Tube died tonight (knocks on wood) I wouldn't buy another one. I would much rather buy 2 more 5V box mods instead.
If Lava Tube vs. Provari comes down to a budget issue, I'd say get the Lava Tube.
I bought my Lava Tube first and wasn't that impressed with it. I used it a bunch in the beginning but went back to my box mods pretty quick after the newness wore off. It's not a bad mod and it works fine, I just don't like it that much. I'd rather spend $140 on another blemished Provari than $50 on a new Lava Tube. If my Lava Tube died tonight (knocks on wood) I wouldn't buy another one. I would much rather buy 2 more 5V box mods instead.
If Lava Tube vs. Provari comes down to a budget issue, I'd say get the Lava Tube.
How about Provari or Vario?
http://www.vaporbeast.com/The_VARIO_Advanced_Personal_Vaporizer_p/sk27.htm
It's less than half the price (unless you choose the ugly silver provari- then it's a little more than half the price), 5 amps to provari's 3.5 which will make it ace for multi-coiled atomizers (I'm going to mod a vivi nova tank to try two coils CE style), and a better connector that features an improved air intake system and ego cone threads set into the top of it, as well as clearance for anything that may use them. Plus it looks like a lightsaber.
One thing's for sure it clowns on the Lavatube 2.0, which isn't even out yet. We will see if it can threaten the Provari or not. It's likely going to be released in about 2 weeks, according to Tim Campbell the owner of Vaporbeast. I'll be getting one so I will do a review at that time if anyone's interested.
If you are interested you can send him an email and get on the waiting list. Info's on the sales page I linked above.
http://www.vaporbeast.com/The_VARIO_Advanced_Personal_Vaporizer_p/sk27.htm
It's less than half the price (unless you choose the ugly silver provari- then it's a little more than half the price), 5 amps to provari's 3.5 which will make it ace for multi-coiled atomizers (I'm going to mod a vivi nova tank to try two coils CE style), and a better connector that features an improved air intake system and ego cone threads set into the top of it, as well as clearance for anything that may use them. Plus it looks like a lightsaber.
One thing's for sure it clowns on the Lavatube 2.0, which isn't even out yet. We will see if it can threaten the Provari or not. It's likely going to be released in about 2 weeks, according to Tim Campbell the owner of Vaporbeast. I'll be getting one so I will do a review at that time if anyone's interested.
If you are interested you can send him an email and get on the waiting list. Info's on the sales page I linked above.
I want to get both honestly. Curious to why it clowns on the LT 2.0 when neither are out though....???
This alone is a wonderful reason to not buy it, no matter how good it is otherwise
Its a deal buster for sure
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Because I've seen the LT2.0 - it's 3.0 amps and it has a clickier button. WOOO.
It's not a major improvement it's more of a revision.
I have only the Apollo vtube, and I have it in red (not the steel). I happen to love it, as my first PV. Don't have much experience in the area. But I can tell you that I have no regrets about getting the vtube. I hear (on youtube) that the steel model is wonderful. Youtube has a few videos on it; they pretty much go over everything. Not sure how to embed videos in forum posts. (Sorry! 
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The Vario's description states: *High quality “clicky” button
The higher amperage is great for someone that needs it though. I like the finish on the unit as well.
The LT 2.0 has break-apart is in the middle, uses pulse width modulation, cut down # of buttons, thicker alum body. Damn, what would have been an improvement?
Sounds like you have some inside scoop. Like I said I'm deciding between these two or getting both at some point, and just want to know why in total that the Vario clowns the LT 2.0 outside of a higher amperage. Thanks!
The Vario's description states: *High quality “clicky” button
The higher amperage is great for someone that needs it though. I like the finish on the unit as well.
The LT 2.0 has break-apart is in the middle, uses pulse width modulation, cut down # of buttons, thicker alum body. Damn, what would have been an improvement?
Sounds like you have some inside scoop. Like I said I'm deciding between these two or getting both at some point, and just want to know why in total that the Vario clowns the LT 2.0 outside of a higher amperage. Thanks!
i wouldn't say the the vario clowns the 2.0lt because it has a higher amperage(each individual pv has its ups and downs and its supporters). get what you feel you like and will help keep you satisfied and away from the stinkies.
most people seem to settle at 10-12 watts when vaping which both are capable of doing(even the orignal lavatube can do it with the right atty/carto put on it. the biggest difference is that with a higher amp limit you can vape a lower ohm atty/carto higher then that of a device with a lower amp limit. also the closer to the limit you vape the harder the device works to get you there.... so having a higher amp limit may extend battery life for some people if they stay at there current levels of watts..... and lets be honest who buys a APV and only has one battery? so im not worried about that.
The Vario's description states: *High quality “clicky” button
The higher amperage is great for someone that needs it though. I like the finish on the unit as well.
The LT 2.0 has break-apart is in the middle, uses pulse width modulation, cut down # of buttons, thicker alum body. Damn, what would have been an improvement?
Sounds like you have some inside scoop. Like I said I'm deciding between these two or getting both at some point, and just want to know why in total that the Vario clowns the LT 2.0 outside of a higher amperage. Thanks!
The fact that because it has lower amps that it lowers the voltage without telling you on high amperage draws such as a dual coil at 6v. Also, whether they addressed their build quality/reliability factor is still up in the air. Ok I should have said I THINK it'll clown the Lavatube 2.0 because I have not received my Vario yet to test this, but lowering the voltage without telling you and letting you believe that you're actually doing something that you're not is a complete fail in my book. The other problem with the old Lavatube that I suspect will be a throughput to the new one is total voltage inaccuracy.
I think in the future we are going to be seeing more atomizers use the EGO cone threads, and I think we are going to see a lot more multi coils. Already they are selling dual coil clearomizers (it happened with computers, they started adding more CPUs to the chip instead of bigger single chips due to heat - the same thing will apply here). If you have the amps to distribute and keep your watts high enough that's going to put you in a good place. The reason why dual coils up til now have been dogged on is because no unit has had the amps to push them properly, and cartos kinda suck. This opens a whole new ballgame with these newer high amp devices.
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You can but there is a certain point when it'll melt. To get to 5amps on a Vario with a single coil atomizer according to Ohm's Law you'd have to put a 1.2ohm atomizer on there and you'd get a startling 30 watts but it would be unvapable and the the coil would probably liquify.
Most people vape between 6-12 watts with the average sweet spot being 8 watts. 12+ is for reckless throat hit chasers. If that's what you want to be then the Vario will beat almost any device at that hands down. The power of the Vario and its high amperage is found in multi-coil atomizers which I think we can all agree the Provari (error codes) and the Lavatube (lowers the voltage without telling you) suck at because they lack the amps to push them. Coupled with the improved EGO connection instead of a lousy 510 connection, and improved airflow, that is win.
As I explained earlier, when computers hit a brick wall with heat they started miniaturizing and adding multiple cores to their chips. I believe the same thing will happen in the field of vaping.
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That's true but a Provari with the 3.0 ohm single coil atomizer that it comes with, at 6v, is 12 watts.
I have both, and I have to say although the build quality is much better on the provari, I still prefer the lavatube.
The menu is a pain on the provari, I like to up the voltage and vape, not up the voltage then wait til it turns itself off!
I also like that the lavatube will drop off in performance a bit so you know its dying, giving you a chance to get back home to get some batteries. If your battery runs out while you are out with the provari, you get no warning, you are just left unable to vape!
A lot of my problem is also size - I got the mini, and even with the extender, I dont get any where near long enough with a battery. With hindsight, I should have gone for a full size model. Oh well, you live and learn!!
The menu is a pain on the provari, I like to up the voltage and vape, not up the voltage then wait til it turns itself off!
I also like that the lavatube will drop off in performance a bit so you know its dying, giving you a chance to get back home to get some batteries. If your battery runs out while you are out with the provari, you get no warning, you are just left unable to vape!
A lot of my problem is also size - I got the mini, and even with the extender, I dont get any where near long enough with a battery. With hindsight, I should have gone for a full size model. Oh well, you live and learn!!
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