Apollo VTube and a TY

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sailorman

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Just ordered my Apollo SS Vtube kit and 6ml tank. Am I correct in thinking that if I use their tank I will not have to purchase the cone spacer to fix the airy draw problem?

Probably not. Their tank is no different from any other tank. You might not have the problem at all. Not everyone has the same opinion of it. For some, it's airy. For others, it's just right. The cone spacer is good to have anyway if you intend to use ego clearos. The skirts are too long for the Vtube on some ego devices and the spacer fixes that.
 

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What's really floored me about the VTube is the difference .1 or .2 volts can make in the vapor! I've been dancing all around this, trying different resistances of attys, mixing my juices a little differently, etc., all on a regulated 3.7 volt PV. The exploring was a lot of fun & yielded some interesting results, but the closest I could get to what I was looking for was never close enough. At the moment I'm thinking I've learned about all my trusty E-Power can teach me; there was a sort of crossroad & this one looked right to me. So far it's looking great & variable voltage appears to be the cat's pajamas!

Blessings to all, & Happy Vaping! :vapor:
 

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This is my first vape besides trying disposables. Looking to quit analogs altogether and really hope my mindset and this unit will help. Did a lot of research to come to this decision. I 'd really like to thank everyone on this board for their reviews and tips they helped alot. I cant wait to start vaping :D
 

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sailorman - I'm having the 'airy draw' problem and I also tried to use a DCT with the Vtube with NO success. (I didn't see your warning until it was too late...oopsy) I searched the LT forum for the airy draw problem but couldn't find the solution. Would you mind posting it here?

I'm one of those that needs the tight draw and really strong TH. I'm getting neither with the Vtube...in fact, my eGo-T has 10 times the TH. I'm also experiencing a burnt taste which I tried to remedy by lowering to 4.2 but that didn't work. On top of all this, there's hardly any vapor.

I'm at wits end cuz I just invested in two of these and I really want them to work for me.
 
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sailorman - I'm having the 'airy draw' problem and I also tried to use a DCT with the Vtube with NO success.
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Hopefully Sailorman will be around soon with help but meantime if you're still on here, if you got the kit(s) I'd suggest trying the 3 Ohm atomizer & drip tip that came with one of them. That will give you a fairly solid base line to begin & you can experiment with voltages from there. Using the DCT - sorry but I don't really know what you have there. Does it currently contain a 1.5 Ohm dual coil carto? If so you can pretty well count on it to fail on your VTube. A low resistance single coil carto would be better, but still not ideal. I'm new with this myself but I *think* what we need with these is between 2.5 - 3.0 Ohm atty or carto (tank, clearo, whatever) to get optimum performance.

BTW I've been using the 3 Ohm atty (included) and a Vision Vivi Nova (version 1, but I filed the bottom connector pin a bit) and am getting a nice, tight vape, not airy at all. However this could be from small machining differences in either the feed units we're using or the PV's fittings themselves, I don't know.

Best wishes & hope this helps! :vapor:
 

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Oh and pixelchick, one other thing: if you got the SS units (not sure about the others) the little pin inside the connector where the atty, carto or tank screws onto the PV... that little pin appears to be spring-loaded to come up & meet whatever you screw down on it. So, it may make electrical contact & vape well before the atty/tank/gizmo is actually seated, allowing more air than you'd like to enter from beneath it. To avoid this, (being careful not to cross-thread the fittings), gently screw the atty assembly into the PV with a light amount of pressure until it touches bottom. It doesn't need to be tight, just all the way in. That may take care of the airy draw issue, not sure. :D
 

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sailorman - I'm having the 'airy draw' problem and I also tried to use a DCT with the Vtube with NO success. (I didn't see your warning until it was too late...oopsy) I searched the LT forum for the airy draw problem but couldn't find the solution. Would you mind posting it here?

I'm one of those that needs the tight draw and really strong TH. I'm getting neither with the Vtube...in fact, my eGo-T has 10 times the TH. I'm also experiencing a burnt taste which I tried to remedy by lowering to 4.2 but that didn't work. On top of all this, there's hardly any vapor.

I'm at wits end cuz I just invested in two of these and I really want them to work for me.

Sorry, Pixel. I just saw this post today.

First, the cartos that come with the DCT tanks are usually about 1.5ohm resistance. That won't work at all.
The Vtube cuts your voltage to 3.7V, regardless of where you set it.
3.7V might be o.k. with a single coil, but a dual coil is really two 3ohm coils inside one cartomizer. So, you are trying to power two standard resistance 3ohm coils with only 3.7V.

If you use a dual coil at all, it has to be a higher resistance, like 3ohms. Then the Vtube will give you some voltage to work with.

It's better just to stick with single coil cartos or clearos with a resistance between 2.5 and 3ohms. Your included atty is 3ohms, which is ideal for the Vtube.

The solution for an airy draw I remember involved using a 510/ego adapter, a 510/510 extension, or a cone, depending on what you want to ultimately attach. If you're using cartomizers, a cone will tighten up the draw. If you're using a 510 tank, a 510/510 extension should work. If you're using a stardust, a 510/ego adapter should tighten things up. The original Stainless Lavatube thread had this info from people who experienced "airyness". There apparently some holes near the connector that need to be blocked off or restricted, and the adapters/cones did that. Someone also mentioned blocking them with toothpicks or something, but I forget the details. Might be worth a try.
 

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I just ordered the mini ss. I want to see the differences between the chrome and ss, and the regular and mini sizes. I'll be sure to post my findings.

UPDATE: The regular size Vtube was just too big for me. I'm not a girly-girl by any means, but every time I'd vape with it I felt like I was holding a Steely Dan. ;)

The mini is PERFECT for me. I've been using it for the last 4 days and I can't believe I didn't just buy this thing in the first place. I've spent over $300 on different PVs (counting juice and accessories, over $500 since I started vaping in May....yikes!) and this is the first PV that's given me the strong TH I've been looking for.

I set it at 3.9 and use the 510. I guess I'll have to sell the DCTs I just bought (before I saw sailorman's post), as they do NOT work with the Vtube.

The difference between the SS and the chrome is minimal. The SS has a bit more weight to it, but I really can't tell the difference between the finishes. The SS looks just as shiny as the chrome.

I decided to return the regular size and wait to replace it until Apollo gets more mini SS's in stock. A girl's gotta have a back-up ;)

To sum it all up, I LOVE the mini SS Vtube. With the awesome discount Apollo is offering, this is an incredible PV at a great price.
 

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well, I think I like the chrome better...hmmm...oh heck, they're both shiny...

I ended up buying a tank cone adapter and now my Vtube vapes perfectly for me. I'm using the 510 atomizer with this adapter and it tightens up the draw quite nicely. Plus, I can finally taste the full flavor of my e-juice.

I think I've found vapor heaven....'Veaven'....thanks to sailorman, Warren, and all the kind folks here at ECF :)
 

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Did Apollo even ever have the mini in stainless? I don't think I ever saw one.
You don't have to dump your DCTs. Just replace the carto with a single coil. A 3ohm will work fine.

Better yet, get a Vivi Nova tank. Replacement heads don't cost any more than a punched carto and last a lot longer, especially since you don't need a new one for each flavor. You get 3 of them with a kit, and although one is rated at a low 1.8ohms, they usually meter at a higher resistance than what they're marked. So, the 1.8 ohm head is more than likely 2.1ohms and useable in the Vtube.
 

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Did Apollo even ever have the mini in stainless? I don't think I ever saw one.
You don't have to dump your DCTs. Just replace the carto with a single coil. A 3ohm will work fine.

Better yet, get a Vivi Nova tank. Replacement heads don't cost any more than a punched carto and last a lot longer, especially since you don't need a new one for each flavor. You get 3 of them with a kit, and although one is rated at a low 1.8ohms, they usually meter at a higher resistance than what they're marked. So, the 1.8 ohm head is more than likely 2.1ohms and useable in the Vtube.

Yes, I was able to get the mini ss - ashley says they should have more in stock within the next 1-2 weeks.
I was just looking at single coil cartos at smoketech - they offer it in 1.7, 2.0 and 3.0ohms - what do you think is the best choice?

I'll look at the Vivi Novas here in a sec. Thanks again for the referrals and info :)
 

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Did Apollo even ever have the mini in stainless? I don't think I ever saw one.
You don't have to dump your DCTs. Just replace the carto with a single coil. A 3ohm will work fine.

Better yet, get a Vivi Nova tank. Replacement heads don't cost any more than a punched carto and last a lot longer, especially since you don't need a new one for each flavor. You get 3 of them with a kit, and although one is rated at a low 1.8ohms, they usually meter at a higher resistance than what they're marked. So, the 1.8 ohm head is more than likely 2.1ohms and useable in the Vtube.

One more question - do you prefer tobacco flavor juices? If so, what is your favorite?
 

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No, I'm not a tobacco juice person. I wouldn't mind checking out something like Boba's or Gorilla juice though, since I hear so much about them.

......Deleted due to brain fart....

And definitely try the Vivi Novas. I'm a tightwad and I just got 4 of them. They have to be pretty good for me to buy 4 in the space of a couple weeks.


EDIT: EDIT: EDIT: forget all that about resistance. I had an unfortunate mental episode and forgot you were using a Vtube. I had kGo on the brain. Sorry!! Just stick to 3ohms. The Smoketechs has that flange you need with a DCT, so get Smoketech 3ohm single coil. The main thing is to always stick as close to 3ohms as possible with a Vtube.
 
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