Apparently I "Just dont get it" mesh oxidation.

[bssage]

If we are trying to make the stainless non-conductive.

Aren't the "wet willy" and "rolling paper" redundant to oxidizing the wick?

Why would we need to oxidize the wick below the coils at all?

Isn't the liquid (juice) conductive? And wouldn't that make all the above futile?


I do understand we do it out of necessity. It just seems like we are doing what I think we are trying to do.

Has anybody just tried the "rolling paper" or "wet willy" without any wick treatment?

 

[Rule62]

By oxidizing the wick, you are creating a microscopically thin, non metalic, non conductive layer over the mesh. The mesh needs to be oxidized underneath the coil, and at least as far down as the depth of the wick hole in the atty. Below that is optional and unnecessary.

 

[bssage]

Is the juice not conductive?

Can the rolling paper or cotton be done with out wick treatment?

 

[anavidfan]

Here is probably a stupid idea , but here goes anyway. If we are trying to make the stainless steel non - conductive so it doesnt short out, why then, dont we use some other sort of mesh that is not conductive? there must be another fine metal mesh that is inert enough not to leave a "taste" that we could roll and use as a wick.

I dont remember what I learned about metals, but isnt gold or sterling non-conductive? I know those are probably expensive, but what about putting a thin layer of that gold/sterling leaf stuff they put on cakes and on wood. You could lay it on top of the stainless steel and just gently brush it on top of the mesh wick after its rolled.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Gold and silver are very good conductors. Silver is used for wiring and connectors are often gold plated to make them look nice and corrosion resistant.

Juice isn't conductive (at the sort of voltages we use anyway). If it was, it would always short out your atty no matter what type wick you used

In my head I've thought about some sort of ceramic coating on a mesh wick, but I'm not sure how thin they go. You can get coatings for engine bearings and the like. Whatever it is would need to be resistant to high temperatures, non conductive, fairly resistant to scratching off, not interfere with wicking and not be poisonous...

 

[bssage]

Juice isn't conductive (at the sort of voltages we use anyway). If it was, it would always short out your atty no matter what type wick you used

Ok fair enough. I thought that liquid may not be as conduct. I can buy that our voltages are not high enough to drive through them.

I would imagine ceramic is less porous than metals. So I assume it would not wick as well.

I still dont understand the need to do any prep below the coil.

 

[anavidfan]

I have seen some post where some only oxidize the area the wick is wrapped around and some that take the little tube that is inside cartomizers and put that on the ss wick and then wrap the coils. They seem to be successful, but then the "pursists" say that defeats the whole SS mesh experience. I myself have tried vaping on someones zen atty and did not care for it much. It was much warmer, almost hot, and the temp changed the flavour of my tobacco too much, it was a harsher vape with a lot of TH. Im sure thats to manys liking, but me I like my vape a bit warm and I dont care for TH, Im into the flavour and enjoying my complex and natural tobaccos. I really enjoy my Oddyseus and Vivi Nova and of course the Old school boge in a nice pyrex tank.

 

[anavidfan]

I just realize I made a mistake when I mentioned sterling or gold as materials for covering the mesh, I was getting resistance and non-resistance confused. I use sterling silver for my non-resistance wire on my rebuildable. Non-resistance means it conducts, doh.

 

[anavidfan]

So taking that all back, and on my stupid thought, what about a fine mesh made of Ni-chrome or kanthal?

I found this site but there are others, not being very good at math I dont know how to find the equivalent of the weave compared to 400 or 500 thread to the descriptions they have.

http://www.brown-campbell.com/wireprod.htm
http://www.uniquewire.com/pgs/stock.cfm