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sfeltch

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Ok, I own a Vamo and is my only VV/VW mod. I have had this for months. I have ran 18350's stacked until recently and started using single batteries. I have noticed the following:

1) the screen is dimmer when I have a single 18650 or 18350.
2) doesn't seem to hit as hard with single batteries as it does with stacked.
3) Sometime it takes a second or a bit more to fire in single battery mode.
4) Other times during draw its is really weak through the draw. Hardly any hit at all. Refire and hits.
5) Firing is very inconsistent.

It almost seems that the vamo performance isnt optimal in single battery mode.

Two Questions for those that might have an answer.

Why is this?

Are there APV's out there that don't do this? I want to purchase a new one and want the single battery option but not like I have right now.

Thanks in advance.
 

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As Warhawk said, stacked batteries = more volts to push. Even in a regulated mod like a Vamo with built-in protective circuitry, I'm still not a fan of stacking batteries for any reason. Hopefully you were using safe chemistry IMRs, and not protected Li ion batteries.

Not much else to offer you. I can't recall if stacked batteries were recommended for use in the Vamo. There are some mods designed to inherently use a stacked battery setup. I might be wrong but I think the Smoktech Buzz Pro does. Again, I'm not a fan of that battery configuration.
 

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As Warhawk said, stacked batteries = more volts to push. Even in a regulated mod like a Vamo with built-in protective circuitry, I'm still not a fan of stacking batteries for any reason. Hopefully you were using safe chemistry IMRs, and not protected Li ion batteries.

Not much else to offer you. I can't recall if stacked batteries were recommended for use in the Vamo. There are some mods designed to inherently use a stacked battery setup. I might be wrong but I think the Smoktech Buzz Pro does. Again, I'm not a fan of that battery configuration.
VAMO V3 is fine with stacked 18350's, it has built in over current protection, and it is recommended to run IMR in the V3...I had protected batteries and it kept tripping the built in protection circuit on the batteries...I run a single IMR 18650 in mine however
 

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I tend to vape between 8 and 10 watts. Also use a variety of resistance. 1.5 to 2 on gennys and drippers. 2+ on BCC, up to 3 ohms on cartos. Depends on my mood I suppose. I am interested in purchasing another mod but I want the single battery option. Does the provari act the same as I described the vamo working? You mean this is the characteristics of most other mods?

And yes I used efest IMR 18350s stacked.

I dont want to stack any more.
 
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sfeltch said:
Does the provari act the same as I described the vamo working? You mean this is the characteristics of most other mods?
Absolutely not.

The Provari is one of the only mods that uses an 800 hz wavelength for its PWM (pulse width modulation). All the other mods from China use less expensive processors and make a 33.3 hz wave, which some vapors can hear as a rattlesnake sound. Many Provari owners comment about the smoother vaping experience they get when compared to the China products. I know myself that I prefer using my two Provari's over my China-made mods.

The Provari's patented Accuset chip will continuously monitor your battery's voltage and adjust its output to keep the voltage within 1% accuracy of the voltage you set, from the beginning of the battery till the end. Absolutely no dropoff as the battery voltage declines. You'll find the Provari to be the most predictable, consistant, and reliable PV you'll ever own. This is why Provari owners are so enthusiastic in recommending them to others.

Check out the numerous threads on the Provari forum here and take note of the surprised new owners when they vape on a Provari for the first time.

From personal experience with both, I strongly prefer AW IMRs over Efests.
 
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I will say that I thank you all for your information and advise. Baditude I will pick up a few AW IMR's at your recommendation. I have studied the forums and feel that the provari is my next move. I have read about the 800 hz wavelength. Guess I wanted to hear it one more time to make sure my issues with vaping on my vamo would be solved with the investment of the provari. Dont get me wrong I dont hate the vamo, it served me well for months. Just ready to move on.

Thanks again.
 

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Absolutely not.

The Provari is one of the only mods that uses an 800 hz wavelength for its PWM (pulse width modulation). All the other mods from China use less expensive processors and make a 33.3 hz wave, which some vapors can hear as a rattlesnake sound. Many Provari owners comment about the smoother vaping experience they get when compared to the China products. I know myself that I prefer using my two Provari's over my China-made mods.

The Provari's patented Accuset chip will continuously monitor your battery's voltage and adjust its output to keep the voltage within 1% accuracy of the voltage you set, from the beginning of the battery till the end. Absolutely no dropoff as the battery voltage declines. You'll find the Provari to be the most predictable, consistant, and reliable PV you'll ever own. This is why Provari owners are so enthusiastic in recommending them to others.

Check out the numerous threads on the Provari forum here and take note of the surprised new owners when they vape on a Provari for the first time.

From personal experience with both, I strongly prefer AW IMRs over Efests.

dna20 mods also fire at 800hz and you can get a good one for a lot less than a provari(shanmods dual 18650 gadget or fazedboxmods budget are two that come to mind)
 

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dna20 mods also fire at 800hz and you can get a good one for a lot less than a provari(shanmods dual 18650 gadget or fazedboxmods budget are two that come to mind)

As to the DNA20. I've done a bit of studying on that subject and as of right now there are people reporting downsides to it, most prominently, very short battery life. Part of that is because there's something that runs all the time, (display LED?), that causes a constant battery drain, even when you're not vaping.

I was very excited about VW when mod makers first talked about coming out with it but I don't think it's turned out to be as great as people thought. If you review the threads that came out with the DNA12 you'll notice a lack of enthusiasm from people who ordered the VW as compared to those who have VV. It's not dramatic but if you read between the lines you can pretty much tell that they're just not as thrilled as the VV people are.

VV mods are actually capable of higher wattage... up to 25 watts, so I don't really see the advantage of the DNA. Stick a carto, atty, RBA, what ever on the mod at what ever ohm, set the voltage to the taste you like and get on with your day. Like a cool vape, turn down the voltage. Like a hot vape, turn it off, like it really hot, turn it way up... 25 watts will blow your head off. You have to make the decision what's more important to you... all I can tell you is don't buy a mod just for the sake of getting one right away, just wait for one that going to meet your wants and needs.

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dna20 mods also fire at 800hz and you can get a good one for a lot less than a provari(shanmods dual 18650 gadget or fazedboxmods budget are two that come to mind)
Probably great mods, no doubt, if you don't mind using a box mod. Nothing against box mods, I have a couple and like them myself. Not everyone does though.

  • DNAlunidnod is $194 and out-of-stock.
  • Gadget Duel 18650 for $135 is on pre-order
  • Gadget Hybrid is $146 and also on pre-order

You can get a new full warranty Provari as inexpensive as $140 in the clearance section should you wish, and get it within 3 - 4 days. All Provari's come with a 1 year warranty - I saw no mention of any warranty for the Shanmods. On the off chance a Provari needs repair, history shows you get the Provari back within a weeks time.

Not trying to stir an argument here, but Provape has a well deserved reputation for customer service and will service their product for as long as you own it. I have no idea what the customer service might be for Shanmods. If the mod maker is having issues catching up with orders and keeping stock up, makes me wonder how reliable and proficient he is in repairing his mods and getting them back to the owner.
 
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I've looked at box mods many times and for me, (this is purely subjective and may not apply to other people), I just cant get over the fact that it looks and feels just what the name implies... A BOX.

Obviously this doesn't bother other people since they keep selling them but I can't get past the big, clunky feeling. I'd rather have slim and long... (no homo) As I said, the size and design is purely subjective, just because I don't like the form doesn't mean you wouldn't love it.

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Ok, was just ready to pull the trigger on the Provari when I noticed the Satin Silver is 159.00 and all the rest are 179.00. I wanted the satin silver and cant seem to find out why the others are 179.00. Is it just the color? Anyone know? Waiting to see if anyone can tell me before I place order.....lol.......hurry!
 

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Ok, was just ready to pull the trigger on the Provari when I noticed the Satin Silver is 159.00 and all the rest are 179.00. I wanted the satin silver and cant seem to find out why the others are 179.00. Is it just the color? Anyone know? Waiting to see if anyone can tell me before I place order.....lol.......hurry!
The colored Provari's are outsourced to another shop to be painted with a carokote (sp?) ceramic-like paint. This costs Provape $20 to do per unit, so that cost is passed on only to those customers who want the colored Provari's.

The same is true with the different color LED display. Provape can get the red ones cheaper than the blue or green ones, so Provape again only charges those customers the additional $15 that want blue or green LED display.
 
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