are cartomizer flavors the same as nobacco juice

[tulsatggr]

Are V4L cartomizers filled with the nobacco juice? Do they taste the same? I have tried 3 different 555 brands and none have tasted the same. Should I just get blank cart and fill with nobacco, or buy the prefilled to try first?

 

[CatMommy]

I was told that the carts, 5ml and 30ml bottles are the same juice. The 20ml juice is from a different supplier. Anyone heard any differently?

 

[Sheryl]

I was told that the carts, 5ml and 30ml bottles are the same juice. The 20ml juice is from a different supplier. Anyone heard any differently?

That is my understanding as well.

 

[cr12]

me three, i have had some juices taste slightly different im sure it all depends on how much the cart is used and how you fill it. but mostly mine taste alike to a new cart but not quite as great

 

[henrid84]

i find that if you fill the cart and vape right away it will have a different taste. but when i let it sit over night it is much closer to the orig Carto flav.

 

[sawlight]

But I think it's all about to change when they get the new shipment in?

 

[JelliBean]

Wow, I never heard that, but if it's true, then that could explain why there are some drastic difference in reviews on the same flavors.... Keep me posted on whether that is in fact true or not, Thanks

 

[leaford]

That's about right. The 20ml bottles are leftovers from a previous order. The 5ml bottles are the same juice from the same batch as the carts. In the future we will make them coordinate bottle and cart production so that they ship at or near the same time as each other. And we will be reinstating the 20ml, and possibly 30ml bottles.

 

[JelliBean]

Thanks Leaford for validating that, plus providing information on the new changes being made. Greatly appreciated!!!

 

[tulsatggr]

Appreciate all your replies. Thank you - Very Much

 

[dicedealer007]

This actually explains a lot. I wondered why the carts always tasted so different after refilling.

 

[Pumpkin729]

Are the nobacco juices made in the USA?

 

[Taryn]

No they are made in China with a V4L recipe.

 

[Pumpkin729]

No they are made in China with a V4L recipe.

Please explain.

 

[Pugzley]

V4L works directly with the factory in China and have their own specific flavors made up by them. Their flavors are unique to the V4L brand. Leaford, who works for V4L is over there right now dealing with quality control for the V4L products.

 

[Pawpaw]

Yep! Check out this thread:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...liquid-manufacturing-sanitary-conditions.html

 

[Pumpkin729]

The sanitary conditions are great. My main concern is how the actual e-liquid is made? Does V4L tell China just what to put in the making of the e-liquid? Most people that want to try out my e-cig will ask me first who made the e-liquid when I say it comes from China they say no thanks? Why?

 

[Pawpaw]

Leaford (the guy that posted all of those pics in the other thread) is in China right now, on V4L's behalf.

One of the things he does is to invent new flavors. The juice does not get put into cartos or bottles until he is 100% happy with it.

Does that clear it up a bit?

 

[Pugzley]

The sanitary conditions are great. My main concern is how the actual e-liquid is made? Does V4L tell China just what to put in the making of the e-liquid? Most people that want to try out my e-cig will ask me first who made the e-liquid when I say it comes from China they say no thanks? Why?

Have you asked them why? I think only they would know the answer to that, next time someone does that ask them and let us know what they say. Probably they will answer something to do with recalls of dog and catfood or other recalls that have happened with Chinese products in the past.

Even so, there is not a single U.S. supplier who is making the juice in their kitchen or basement that is going to give us their recipe either. They do not have clean rooms, either.

Maybe they need to wait until the FDA controls it, though I am sure when that happens, we'll be reduced to a nic level that is ineffective, will need a doctor's prescription and have to buy the juice from Big Pharma as well as pay a slew of taxes on it, just like tobacco.

 

[Blue Skies]

The sanitary conditions are great. My main concern is how the actual e-liquid is made? Does V4L tell China just what to put in the making of the e-liquid? Most people that want to try out my e-cig will ask me first who made the e-liquid when I say it comes from China they say no thanks? Why?

I've never been asked by a non e-smoker where e-liquid is made, I'm actually surprised they would even know about the existence of e-liquid. But on the other hand, if you're comfortable with the use of your e-cig and the liquid in your cartomizers, why fret over what other people think?