are Cartridges better than Cartomizers... I HOPE SO!

[Darrigaaz]

Do you then wash that no-taste cart out? Or do you let it sit and cool down for a couple hours and try it again and get no taste from first couple drags?

Does this happen with any other juices, or just coffee?

Is this VG or PG juice? If VG maybe it's just not wicking fast enough to keep up with you since it's thicker?

Have you wash/refilled that same cart out many times now? Is this a brand-new or within 5 washes cart?

Do you get the same results on the batteries (3.7v) or only on the PT (5.0v)?

How are you washing the carts? Warm faucet water? Vodka bath?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but without answers to them, it'll be difficult to pinpoint where your problem lies. I don't think anybody (including V4L) wants you to spend more than you have to.

 

[bornagainst]

While every ecig has a learning curve to a certain extent, the OP's issues are just plain wrong.

1. Battery Issues
2. Off box of carts
3. User Error

Those are the main three issues that I find affect enjoyment of your vape.

I'm lost as to what to say.

What I will say is that if you are suckin' on blisterpack upon blisterpack of crappy generic carts, then you will probably hate them too (I have a small shoebox full of crappy blisterpacks).

Hope you get it sorted.

 

[mwahle1]

Again, something is seriously wrong. I chain-vape all day at 6 volts. I cannot comment how many cartomizers I go through (probably many) because I use blanks and fill my own and re-fill them before they are empty to avoid burning the polyfill.

However, I can comment on the amount of juice I use per day. I go through 4 ml’s sometimes maybe closer to 5 ml’s. This amount is used chain-vaping at 6 volts all day. It would be nearly impossible to vape 10 ml’s per day. You would have to take a drag every 2 or 3 seconds, non-stop, all day, to approach 10 ml’s a day.

Maybe you are overfilling them and not getting much vapor and then throwing them away full of juice. This is the only guess I can come up with, sorry.

 

[Monkey Arms]

I guess hat I've been looking for is something I havent' tried. I have tried it ALL! Believe me, I'm freakin' Obsessive Compulsive about it. I've vaped until my teeth hurt trying this stuff. I've watched 1000's of videos, spoke with Leaford about how they do it at the factory. I have 8 batteries, 3 passthrus. Tried VG & PG, I have 50 carts only used once. They all last exactly the same amount of time, no matter what!

I've Been Vaping for 4 Months & 10 days approx.

I just can't make a cartomizer filled with 1ml of liquid last longer than 30 minutes.

 

[Brew]

My carts are starting to taste off. I think I may need to buy a set of 10 for every 6 of the 5ml bottles, and top up more but no clue as to the OP.

 

[LibertyRevolution]

If you think you have problems with cartomizers running out, wait till you try cartridges.
They only hold a few drops...
I see you blowing threw even more juice direct dripping...

9 carts a day!? Why are you vaping so much? Is the only time your not vaping when your exhaling?!
Seriously.. how do you vape 10ml of juice, are you vaping 0mg?
If I sit here for 15mins and chain vaping, vaping every 5 breaths, on my 24mg I get all buzzed, 30mins = headache range.

 

[Rotaryfeen]

Try upping ur mg so you actually vape less? Don't just puff at it and really hit the sucker? Don't bother waiting till it gets warm? 6v may burn filling faster thus ruining the cart if you are over vaping it. If you changed to atty's and cartidges you WOULD BE FILLING WAY WAY MORE.

 

[jdvorr]

Yep, that's just bizarre. I go through 2 or 3 carts a day & I change when the flavor starts to dissipate. There is definitely something not normal there.

 

[FreeGT]

If the cartos are being burnt out from being overheated, that could cause a carto to die prematurely. This could result in wasted juice being thrown away in the dead carto......

 

[jebey29]

I would ask where you got your carts from?

I also vape all day long at 6V and dont have the issues your talking about. I rotate between 10/14 carts per day and top them off each night with 6/10 drops each. I work from home so when i say i vape all day long its really all day long. Even during a "high" vape day im only going thru 3/4 ml of liquid per day.

 

[bugzy1977]

At this stage, I'm spending way more on liquid than I ever did on cigarettes. 10ml a day, add in shipping and I might as well smoke crack

lol

you must be vaping them 24/7

just because you are not smoking an analogue, it doesn't mean you should smoke an endless cigarette, lol
(well you can, but thats another story)

I usually go through 2ml a day, so a 30ml bottle lasts me 15 days

in the beginning I was vaping 18/7 non stop, and was going through around 8-10ml of ejuice a day, for the first few days.

now I vape when I need it.

I take about 7 drags, and I'm done for about 30 mins (7 drags is roughly equivelent to 1 analogue cigarette by comparison)

 

[bugzy1977]

That's about all that I can think of. I wish you luck! And so ya know, going through 10ml of juice a day, is still about the same (if not slightly less) than smoking a single pack of cigarettes a day.

This statement is incorrect

I use 2ml (2 cartomizers a day) and I get equivelent to a pack of 20's in that 2ml

so I would say roughly 1ml = 10 analogue cigarettes

remember... normally 7/8 drags is equivelent to 1 analogue cigarette

This is not true for everyone though, as we all smoke differently. When I was smoking analogues, I was dragging on the cigarette about 10-15 times, so it varies.

I would suggest the OP gets higher nicotine level e-juice

I first started on 11mg, but that was too low.

I am smoking 24MG now, comfortably at 2ml a day

 

[Adrenalynn]

I believe he was referring to cost.

 

[Belletrist]

you know, you mention that the flavor goes off, but not the vapor--i'm wondering if some element in the carts is "numbing" your tastebuds? i don't know, i'm grasping at straws here. hmm.

 

[Defiantgroundhog]

You may be onto something Belle... I think the flavor changes about 5-10 puffs into it. PawPaw's mentioned this too. I've always thought the flavor got better after it gets good and warmed up but I can see how someone may prefer the fresh cart. flavor.
Maybe the OP is getting a change in flavor and thinking that means it's dying instead of just getting going.

 

[Adrenalynn]

I prefer the fresh cart flavor, so fill frequently - but that doesn't change the volume of juice in any way other than the initial half-ml or so, unless you're throwing them away and not filling them.

The filling at the base will remain constant, and you'll be "vaping off the top", so if you refill constantly you're still using the same amount of juice.

 

[Defiantgroundhog]

I prefer the fresh cart flavor, so fill frequently - but that doesn't change the volume of juice in any way other than the initial half-ml or so, unless you're throwing them away and not filling them.

The filling at the base will remain constant, and you'll be "vaping off the top", so if you refill constantly you're still using the same amount of juice.

True... true... I wasn't paying attention enough to see if he was washing before refilling.

This whole thread has me dumbfounded

 

[Belletrist]

i prefer the fresh cart flav too, and prob waste a lot of juice on my 'to-go' carts (vs the ones i vape at home and top off). that's really the only explanation i can think of for what the OP's experiencing... but if he is topping off, and still going through 10ml a day, then i have no clue.

 

[mwahle1]

To the original OP; please inform us if you ever figure out the problem. I am curious.

 

[unkuser]

Unkuser...I'm so glad I'm not the only one going through 7-9 a day.

Here's the symptoms: I fill the freshly washed and dry carts with 1ml of Cofee from V4L with a syringe. I let them sit overnight. I screw 2 of them into my pass-thrus. I rotate every other drag. After about 30 minutes, it tastes as if I'm sucking on a Cigarette Filter. Not a burning taste, but just air through an unlit Cigarette. Still some vapor but NO taste.

I've spent $800 in 131 days. I've only owned 1 kit, the KR808D-1. Most of the $ has been on Juice.

Since I have tried almost every single model of e-cigs, bought many e-liquid from different vendors and tried both PG and VG. It's always the same result...after maybe 10-20 puffs, the taste diminishes rapidly. Vapor production remains the same, but there is just no taste in the smokes.

Vapor4Life carts are the same. But I like them regardless, because I love the taste of their carts. I think I have like 50 new carts from them and maybe 30 others from other vendors.

I am thinking it's voltage related.. but that just my guess. Once I will get V2, I will find out for sure.

For example a DSE 905 which is regulated to 3.7 does not have much flavor. Moreover, a fresh DR808 battery with 2 holes as more flavor than the V4L XL long battery with 3 holes.

E-cigs are never consistent.