Are e-cigs safe for the throat?

[Drewps5co0tt]

Don't laugh at me for asking this but I'm only asking because of my paranoia. My ENT had been on my case to quit smoking for years now (I saw one because I have acid reflux) and he was always worried that one day I would walk into his office for an exam and he would find something. If any of you read my quit story you saw that it was related to my ENT and his constant harping on me (well that and 50 percent of myself that already wanted to quit.)

Anyways I was just curious and I'm going to assume that inhaling vapor is not going to cause me to get throat cancer, or anything like that? I had cleared the e-cig with all of my doctors except him...I didn't feel like going in to talk with him about it because I asusmed he would say it was fine since all my other doctors did (including my lung doc) who I had been working with to try to quit smoking.

I guess I'm being paranoid and needed opinions here from fellow vapers.

Thanks

 

[demon72]

I think maybe It might, over time, create gills in the side of your neck. Maybe a coupla thousand years from now vapers will create an amphibious subspecies of humanity.

 

[teabagger]

I know smoking will cause throat/lung/mouth cancer, no one really has knows the long term affects of P.V's are yet, I know that no tar and less carcinogens are a good thing.

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

Less carcinogens? I wasn't aware there were any lol.

 

[Levitas]

Less carcinogens? I wasn't aware there were any lol.

Well, according to 2 studies done by the FDA, they found trace levels of TSNAs in 2 of the cartridges tested. I think they were from njoy. TSNAs or tobacco-specific nitrosamines are indeed carcinogens found in, you've guessed it, tobacco. Though, I am not aware of any further studies showing or not showing these TSNAs in any other liquids. Here's the link, if you're interested http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/centers-institutes/population-development/files/article.jphp.pdf

Note: There were a total of 16 cartridges studied from various labs, only 2 had trace levels of TSNAs. It's a risk, vaping that is, but if you're a gambling man (like myself), it should be obvious which horse, at this point, is better to bet on

Happy Vaping

Edit: I should note, that the levels of TSNAs found in those cartridges were approximately the same amount of TSNAs found in a Nicotine Patch

 

[zoiDman]

I don't know of just about anything that a person can inhale that could be considered 100% safe.

For me, I treat e-Cigs to be a lesser of perhaps two evils.

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

Damn you guys are making me paranoid now lmao..

 

[demon72]

I don't know of just about anything that a person can inhale that could be considered 100% safe.

For me, I treat e-Cigs to be a lesser of perhaps two evils.

Yea I live in Southern California.... the air I breathe is worse then vaping full time!

 

[Valsacar]

Ok, cancer requires a catalyst (carcinogen). E-cigs have been found to have trace levels (some studies), below the level that is considered dangerous (amount is the risk, not the thing).

If inhaling things, in general, were dangerous, we'd ALL BE DEAD. You inhale all day long, don't you? There's tons of crap in the air you breathe daily, and yet you're still alive. That's because your body can process and filter out a lot of things, the problem comes when you overload it (hence earlier statement, amount is the risk).

That said, there probably are some risks involved. I'm sure the drying effect of PG/VG can cause some issues, but that is fairly easy to combat (it's called water, drinking it is good, inhaling it is bad).

Best bet, ask your doctor. Then ask another, and another... and if you keep getting the same answer, pretty safe bet it's the right answer.

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

Yeah I get you Valsacar...they have all been just fine with me using it, I over ask sometimes.

 

[Marb]

IMHO, vaping is considerably less harmful than any alternative (that will actually work for me) to every part of the body involved. Throat included. I figure vaping HAS to be less harmful if there is considerably less harmful chemicals involved in the first place. What's safer? Quitting cold-turkey? Nothing else that I can think of. But unfortunately, cold turkey won't work for me and only leads me back to smoking (way too easy to "cheat" and continue to smoke). Smoking vs vaping... hmmm... Pffft, I'll take my chance with vaping, thank you very much. Seems somewhat akin to asking someone, "Would you rather play Russian-roulette with a Gatling gun or a BB-gun?"

I suppose you could liken it to chewing tobacco if you happen to get a few drops of fluid in your mouth on a daily basis from a bad or leaky set-up... and then swallow it instead of spitting it out (shut up, I wasn't going there). But even then, I still doubt it would be anywhere close to the risks involved with chewing.

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

To my knowledge there is no tobacco in e-juice, are you saying you should not "lick the bottle" if some ozzes out? I do that all the time lol. I admit it tastes nasty but at first I thought it would actually taste like the flavor I bought...NOT!

Yeah chewing is gross, there are dudes on other sites that I'm on who recommend people to "chew" vs. smoke...do people who do this not realize that they are just BEGGING to get half of their jaw sawed off? I know a guy who started using chewing crap when he was 17 and by 19 he was missing half his jaw! I'm more scared of that stuff then I am cigarettes just because it can cause disaster so much faster.

OK so I won't lick anymore, bwahhhhhhhh

 

[demon72]

WOW ...2 years for that effect!.... I knew it was possible, but not that fast.

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

Well actually the cancer was discovered about a 1.5 years in, the devistation occured at around the 2 year mark. Yes, chewing crap is just awful...that stuff just sits between your cheek and gum and the skin/cells/flesh/bone in your mouth just soaks it up...it doesn't take long at all!

Also you can do some Google searches on chewing tobacco and see so many young guys who have been altered for life by it! I know it sounds strange coming from an ex smoker (but even when I smoked) I said I would never touch the stuff and I didn't...I never had the desire for it and I never understood why people would want that crap sitting in their mouth/drooling like a toddler but that's just me. Smoking is much 'cleaner' in that regard.

 

[meems]

Just curious why you saw an ENT for acid reflux? I thought that would be gastro...

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

Because my reflux was affecting my throat more than my chest/lower area. Acid reflux is kinda two part thing, it can affect the lower part of the digestive track but then it can also affect the upper as well. I first went to an ENT back in late 04 because one day I could feel a "knot" in my throat when I would swallow, obviously one would go to an ENT for that since it's throat related although at first I went to my regular doctor but they couldn't see anything as they didn't have the tools to look. So the ENT doc at first thought I had a tumor based on my description but didn't say anything at first, she scoped me and discovered it was NOT a tumor but acid reflux side effects. That is when I was put on PPI's to try to control the reflux.

Well the smoking was the big factor with my reflux, the smoking just caused it to flare up and get really out of control where I constantly felt like I had acorns in my throat but it was just irritation, etc from the reflux and the toxic cigarette smoke that was causing the issues...I went on like this for the next 5-6 years taking pills and it just kept going and going and going...then I quit...within a few weeks the reflux crap was gone! I haven't had one problem since then, although I continue to take my prevacid daily I have a feeling when I go back in October for a checkup, I'll be taken off of it...that would be great!

It's definitely not just a lower GI thing as most people think it is.

 

[want to quit]

We can talk about this for years but let me try to make it easy for you. Smoking kills your body, your lungs, and at one point you probably get cancer. Vaping on the other hand is a "healthier" alternative which doesn't mean it's not harmful. If that wasn't clear for you or you thought vaping is healthly then you have two option.

Option A: Go back to smoking if you think its better for you

Option B: Quit both vaping and smoking which would be the best way to go anyways.

If you don't think you are addicted to nicotine you may try your luck at 0mg nic and give that a shot.

With all the flavors out there it's easy to think that vaping is just a fun game that doesn't cause any harm but that is not true and everyone knows it. Now keep enjoying your PV it is by far a trillion times "Healthier" then any cigarette you ever smoked.

 

[zoiDman]

Acid reflux can be Brutal...

I used to drink a lot of Coke/Pepsi/RC Cola. Can't tell you how many times I would bolt out bed after a "Vurp". It was tearing up my throat. And the analogs weren't helping either.

Quit drinking sodas but for once and awhile and things got a lot better.

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

We can talk about this for years but let me try to make it easy for you. Smoking kills your body, your lungs, and at one point you probably get cancer. Vaping on the other hand is a "healthier" alternative which doesn't mean it's not harmful. If that wasn't clear for you or you thought vaping is healthly then you have two option.

Option A: Go back to smoking if you think its better for you

Option B: Quit both vaping and smoking which would be the best way to go anyways.

If you don't think you are addicted to nicotine you may try your luck at 0mg nic and give that a shot.

With all the flavors out there it's easy to think that vaping is just a fun game that doesn't cause any harm but that is not true and everyone knows it. Now keep enjoying your PV it is by far a trillion times "Healthier" then any cigarette you ever smoked.

Just curious but where do you get your facts that "e-cigarettes are not harmless?" All that is in them are VG/PG which is found in many food, cosmetic products, etc...water, flavoring and food coloring...how do these items cause cancer? Do tell...

Oh and of course nitotine should you select that option But most people that I've spoken to about nicotine say it's harmelss even though it's really not but nicotine doesn't cause cancer, it CAN cause other problems clogging up arteries, etc but most doctors don't even worry about that when it comes to the e-cig.

 

[Drewps5co0tt]

Yea soda, spicey foods, etc...they can all be brutal with reflux.