Are genesis tanks dead? I've got a few collecting dust?

[Dissonance]

For anyone having problems with SS mesh... Just put a ceramic or ekowool cap where the wire touches (not actually going into the tank, just slide the tip of the SS into some of the ekowool/ceramic then wrap your coil around that). It works just as well, and you still get the great wicking action of SS to keep the ekowool/ceramic wet.

Also, if you have something like the AGA-T2... I love it in "auto dripper" mode (Like this). It's nice when you're out and about and don't feel like messing with a dripper, but still want that dripper quality vape. Warning tho... If you use this while driving, please have your windows rolled down

 

[iamAuz]

no genesis are not dead..... a lot of the very high end atomizers are genesis.

 

[BobC]

Put a fork in em, there done

 

[WattWick]

Judging by what's collecting dust in my collection, Kayfuns are dead

 

[chuckie]

The learning curve for building mesh gennies is a little steep, for sure. If anyone gets it right on the first or even the second try, they were just plain lucky. It's probably why kayfun devices became so popular in the first place. Many others have abandoned the mesh idea, and are wicking gennies with cotton or silica. For me, because I was hard headed enough to stick with it, the results have been worth it.

I've used only gennies for about 4 yrs.Tried all the others and nothing compares.Some brands are a little harder than others to get working the way you want them to,but they can all be mastered.
If you're lazy like me teach your grand children to coil them durning school recess.This saves you time and and helps them develop hand-eye coordination.

 

[WattWick]

I've used only gennies for about 4 yrs.Tried all the others and nothing compares.Some brands are a little harder than others to get working the way you want them to,but they can all be mastered.
If you're lazy like me teach your grand children to coil them durning school recess.This saves you time and and helps them develop hand-eye coordination.

Ok now that is just brilliant

"Saves time". Wiping tears here

 

[PaulBHC]

I have 2 RSSTs and 4 AGA-T2s. I got the first RSST to try because I tired of dripping in a little A6. My wife has two chocolates and a kahula that she vapes and they gunk coils quickly. Haven't had much success recoiling Aspire BDCs and realized that I can recoil or rewick a gennie in under 10 minutes. I gave her the RSSTs because of the rubber fill plug and one of the T2s. Clearos give me fits with leaks because of my driving with altitude changes and now the summer heat. No problems with gennies. I'd try a top tank but I hear they use vacuum like a clearo.

 

[HauntedMyst]

Are genesis tanks dead?

What? No way. I have a couple next to my collection of BetaMax and VHS tapes, my film cameras and Apple IIc computer collectibles.

 

[WattWick]

What? No way. I have a couple next to my collection of BetaMax and VHS tapes, my film cameras and Apple IIc computer collectibles.

Betamax and VHS went out of fashion because something better came along, tho. Hasn't happened to the gennies yet

 

[Myk]

So you're convinced because you like something else that everyone on the whole planet shares your views?
I switched to gennies from Protank and never looked back. I guess that means everyone on the whole planet shares my views and bottom or top coil tanks with silica must be dead and that includes Kayfun.

It's OK that you and many others can't build a gennie and prefer KF's, but don't claim those of us who can's favorite is dead because you can't.

 

[soulcatcher]

Def not. I love the airflow, though wicking can be an issue... If you have not heard or tried Rayon (Cellulo Cotton from Sally's) is AMAZING. I was loving cotton until I tried this stuff.

Had many issues getting my Kraken to wick right, switched to rayon and bang, near perfect vape. It is much easier to work w/ as well because the fibers are all uniform, you can easily work it back and forth to make it thinner, and is does not stay compressed like cotton does (which can also cause wicking issues).

-Try it, Love it-

 

[VapRon]

The Genesis style tanks are just a BAD design! Genesis tanks try to incorporate the designs of both a RDA and bottom fed tank system (KayFun/ProTank). If you must "TILT" you device to juice your wick, then its safe to say that Genesis style tanks don't work as advertised. ....and NO, they weren't designed to be used in that manner. The designers must of forgotten about GRAVITY!!!

Just as info. The original Genisis (Yes that is how the original is spelled) was feeded from the top with a 1.5 mil bottle.
I sill have 3 of those and use them on occasions.
They were done by Raidy and one with the forum name ichbines from ERF in Germany. Sorry do not know his real name.
Tai Pan (Uwe) did the marketing here but that is another story all together.

 

[readmermaid]

Many of we old-timers (in vape years, that is, lol) prefer a good, old-fashioned SS wicked Genesis atomizer.

Not that there's anything wrong with anything else. To each, their own & all....

 

[steel bender]

Just thought about another way to look at it. Gennies are not dead, kayfuns have just gone mainstream now. So now instead of some of these people hanging out in a clearo or carto sub-forum, the rebuildable "family" has grown considerably and genny fans are now simply outnumbered...

Not sure what to call myself, the last two days, I used a kayfun nano out on the job, a panzer/atomic on my actual breaks and an aga t2 at home, lol...

 

[readmermaid]

steel bender - I think you call yourself a non-smoker.

Giggle

 

[icemanistheking]

The Genesis style tanks are just a BAD design! Genesis tanks try to incorporate the designs of both a RDA and bottom fed tank system (KayFun/ProTank). If you must "TILT" you device to juice your wick, then its safe to say that Genesis style tanks don't work as advertised. ....and NO, they weren't designed to be used in that manner. The designers must of forgotten about GRAVITY!!!

Try doing some research about said "bad designs". Most people that try gennys and quit never put in the effort to learn how to do a build properly. And the fix is often very, very simple, they just get frustrated and quit. On a proper Genesis build, you do NOT have to tilt, and it will wick just as fast as silica or cotton. Gravity has nothing to do with it, at least not how you're thinking. Liquid is pulled upward via capillary action (look that up), and then is held in the holes of the mesh.

If it tastes like metal, you're doing it wrong. If it doesn't wick, you're doing it wrong. If you can't get rid of hotspots, you're doing it wrong. If vapor production is poor, you're doing it wrong. Just because you (and others) don't take the time to figure out how to do it correctly, don't go spouting off about a "bad design". Problems with a Genesis build are almost always human error, which occurs more easily if the science behind the technique is not known.

 

[icemanistheking]

I've got a Pyrex RSST. 2x agat2, KRAKEN and a pulse.

At the time I bought these I was still learning, never got them to wick perfect but stainless steel rope worked best for me. I quickly switched to kayfun's and Taifun tank systems. Honestly never looked back.

Before I just give up and sell them or trade them, had the concept of genesis tanks just over?

There are more different Genesis atomizers available than anything else, with new ones coming out all the time. Some of the current highest end atomizers are gennys.

 

[BuzzKilla]

Ginisis atomizers are dead... worthless... obsolete...

i'll PM you my address, if you don't want them anymore.....

since they are worthless and obsolete, i'll be nice about it and cover your shipping expenses.... that is all

 

[puro]

I was an avid ss mesh genny user before the Kayfun type devices came out; and I still am. I did my thing with the Kayfun types for a while, and eventually sold them off; all but one, which sits on the shelf, rarely used. They are easy to build, for sure. But imo, they just don't compare to the vape quality of a well set up mesh genny.
I don't think gennys will die. There are lots of us out there; and new versions are still being made and sold.

I agree. I've been an SS genny guy for about 3 years. I recently tried a Russian to see what all the hype is about. The flavor is so much better in my genny. I just use the Russian when I feel like something different, but I really enjoy the vapor quality and flavor of my SS genesis setup. I do my own NET extractions and I put subtle flavoring (usually peach), and the balance in the genny is perfect. If I vape the same thing in the Russian, there is almost no flavor. As far as vapor production, a 1 ohm genny with 28 ga puts out just as much vapor as the Russian, but the russian vapor is harsher IMHO.

So I won't be leaving the genny world anytime soon.

 

[Ctor]

Other than using drippers to test flavors, I use gennies exclusively. I have 8 stainless steel did clones with IBTanked glass, 8 AGA-T2's and 3 pyrex rssts.

I use either the FC-2000 wicks or 500 SS mesh sleeved above the deck with 2.5mm ekowool. Other than the occasional breaking of a ceramic wick, coiled with either 30 ga or .6x .1mm ribbon kanthal, the wick/coil lasts indefinitely.

Sleeving the SS mesh doesn't seem to affect flavor, and eliminates the occasional metallic taste. And it makes shorts a thing of the past. Takes about 5 minutes to get a wick ready for vaping.

Flavor is better than the drippers or anything else I've tried for that matter. I'm not into cloud chasing, but I get nice thick vapor even with 80pg/20vg mixes.

If you don't want your gennies, send 'em to me.