Are RDA's a thing of the past?

[charlie1465]

I'm not going to mark your post with an X but I disagree for the most part. I have used both rda's and RTA's and I really don't notice much flavor difference between them. What I will concede is that it may make more of a difference with more complex flavor profiles. Most of the juices I use are simple single flavor juices. I will also say that coil choice and quantity may also be a factor. I exclusively use single coil simple round wire SS316L coils in all of my rda's and RTA's. Perhaps comparing a dual coil Clapton RDA to a dual coil Clapton RTA might be more of a difference.

Scott I don't know much about RTA's except that when they first came out mine used to to leak all over me which put me off big time time.

I rather was referring to a time even earlier than those funny rebuild able tanks . To be honest I still see the posts with people saying that their RTA leaked and apparently it's because they wicked it wrong or the coils were in the wrong position

That's why I'll never buy one again.. .with an RDA you install the coils, wick it and boom.. .I respect your choice though.. .Variety is the spice of life

 

[ScottP]

Scott I don't know much about RTA's except that when they first came out mine used to to leak all over me which put me off big time time.

I rather was referring to a time even earlier than those funny rebuild able tanks . To be honest I still see the posts with people saying that their RTA leaked and apparently it's because they wicked it wrong or the coils were in the wrong position

That's why I'll never buy one again.. .with an RDA you install the coils, wick it and boom.. .I respect your choice though.. .Variety is the spice of life

I have been rebuilding since the days of the EVOD and Vivi Nova clearo's (I only bought one pack of coils for each and just kept rebuilding them), so by now it's pretty rare I have a leak. I can also say I have had RDA's leak too, when tilting to vape. You have to make sure that all the juice is in the wick and NONE is in the well, or they can leak too.

Either way your previous post was about flavor, not leaking, which was what I disagreed with. Flavor wise I don't see any real difference using single round wire and simple flavor profiles. I just hate to see people waste money chasing some mythical flavor nirvana b/c some people say you can only get it from a dripper and never from a tank when the truth is with the same coil count, coil size, coil type and similar chamber size and air flow, the flavor is going to be nearly identical regardless of what the housing is. How the liquid gets to the coil is mostly irrelevant.

To me the big reason to use a dripper is for rapid rewicking for flavor changes, and ease of cleaning. In this department, they excel. About the only thing easier was using cartos.

I respect your choice as well and I am grateful all of these choices exist so each person can choose what works for them.

 

[charlie1465]

How the liquid gets to the coil is mostly irrelevant.

To me the big reason to use a dripper is for rapid rewicking for flavor changes, and ease of cleaning. In this department, they excel. About the only thing easier was using cartos.

I respect your choice as well and I am grateful all of these choices exist so each person can choose what works for them.

This may well be the case...certainly a large part of the flavour is produced by the builds which exist in both RTA's and RDA's My first and last RTA was the Revel...I can't remember who made it...? I've still got it and its a pretty well made unit which I still like the look of.

I tend to think that the RDA will have the edge on flavour due to the proximity/distance from coil to mouth but as I said I don'r know much about RTA's.

Any way I wish you great clouds and good flavour

 

[sofarsogood]

I'm going to start DIY mixing soon, gathering all the supplies, almost ready to get started. One thing I've been looking at was picking up an RDA so that I can try small recipe batches, etc. without have to hassle with switching flavors in tanks.

I've noticed at a few online stores that they have several RDA's but most are discontinued or listed as out of stock. Has the rebuildable drip atomizer gone the way of Dodo bird?

The traditional vape business likes to make money selling to collectors who buy atomizers just to try them out so they churn out endless variations regardless of whether they improve on anything. Retailers have to draw the line somewhere, they can't carry everything that was ever made. I favor an SV rda clone from Fasttech that cost $7 each. I got 10 figuring they would be discontinued. I can't find them for sale today.

You don't have to be sucked in to the chef vape world. I mix just 1% flavoring of an all-in-one. It is just enough to cover the taste of the other ingredients. That means I don't tire of it which means I don't need a lot of different flavors. I didn't need 10 different flavors of cigarettes.

Regardless I find no brand new flavor sensation makes a good first impression. Usually I have to vape a new device or flavor for several days before knowing if I'm going to like it. But I rarely test new flavors because I don't need to change them.

 

[denali_41]

If you are looking for something simple to build and good flavor, look no further:
Entheon Styled BF RDA - $10.23

Well i did mark your post with an "X" .i'd of made it a big ol fat red X if at all possible !!
I am mostly a single coil vaper,and i pretty much know if an atty will suit me or not just by looking at the deck and air flow design
the entheon was the absolute biggest hyped up disappointment that made it to market !!
i trashed both of mine ,no way would i admit to buying that trash by giving them to somebody else
9 years of vaping and i have seen crap come and go,entheon should've never came

 

[ScottP]

Well i did mark your post with an "X" .i'd of made it a big ol fat red X if at all possible !!
I am mostly a single coil vaper,and i pretty much know if an atty will suit me or not just by looking at the deck and air flow design
the entheon was the absolute biggest hyped up disappointment that made it to market !!
i trashed both of mine ,no way would i admit to buying that trash by giving them to somebody else
9 years of vaping and i have seen crap come and go,entheon should've never came

Lots of people disagree with you. I do agree that (because I already said in an earlier post) air flow, chamber size, etc. are what controls the flavor and for me the Entheon is very close to my Serpent SMM which has been my all day every day tank for over a year. Probably, neither one would be good for pure MTL'ers but I am a "hybrid" or "Chimera" vaper, which means I use DTL tops with a restrictive Drip tip and slightly reduced air flow and get a loose MTL on these DTL tops.

 

[denali_41]

Lots of people disagree with you.

but then again,there are lots that agree with me also

i did like the evods,but hated the vivi's ,all 3 versions

 

[ScottP]

but then again,there are lots that agree with me also

i did like the evods,but hated the vivi's ,all 3 versions

I actually had the Vivi Nova V1 (on an eGo C) before I got the EVOD, it was the very first thing I had after using cartos on cig-a-likes and at that point it was an improvement. Then I got my EVOD and a Vision Spinner and never touched my VN/eGo again. What I used during this time even more than my EVOD were the Smok ARO's. They were basically an EVOD (used the same coils) but made out of aluminum and glass instead of all plastic like the EVOD. I had to use these because two of the flavors I used back then (lemon and cinnamon) would have melted the EVOD. I used those "tanks" for a long time and had one for every flavor. Never had any leak issues with these either with my rebuilt heads using 1/16" micro-coils and cotton yarn. Ahh, good times.

 

[dripster]

Generally RDA's have a fantastic flavour. Back in the day it was about the only way to get decent flavour and IMO even though tank atomizers are pretty good on the flavour side of things you still can't beat an RDA.....get one you'll love it

There is only one tank that holds its own when it comes to flavor, but that obviously still depends on what juice.

 

[charlie1465]

There is only one tank that holds its own when it comes to flavor, but that obviously still depends on what juice.

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Oooh...I like the look of that one...but that's an RTA isn't it? I haven't done those since 2015 when the first one I tried leaked all over the place....it was the Ephro Revel which i still have somewhere. I know everything has improved but still like the simplicity of the RDA especially since the squonking trend

 

[Spydro]

RDA's will never go away. As said endless new versions are constantly being added to the mix.

My daily drivers for going on six years have been mostly RDA's; since 2014 mostly squonk RDA's, and all of my vaping now days is done with squonk mesh RDA's.

Have also done DIY for nearly six years, and my favorite atty's for trying the DIY's out in is various regular RDA's with RxW builds in them.

RxW is woven ceramic flavor wicking that can easily be restored to bright white like new condition by simply firing the coil(s) until any residual joose is completely burned out of the wick. DIY flavor changes are a breeze, and the RxW lasts a very, very long time.

 

[ScottP]

There is only one tank that holds its own when it comes to flavor, but that obviously still depends on what juice.

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I don't do dual/multi coil tanks or drippers. I tried a couple but it was double the work, double the materials/cost, double the juice consumption, half the battery life and very little improvement in flavor from my experience. I know a lot of people love them, I didn't.

 

[ScottP]

Oooh...I like the look of that one...but that's an RTA isn't it? I haven't done those since 2015 when the first one I tried leaked all over the place....it was the Ephro Revel which i still have somewhere. I know everything has improved but still like the simplicity of the RDA especially since the squonking trend

I have been wanting to try squonking, but I only vape TC now and prefer DNA boards to do it. Every DNA based squonker I have seen is WAY overpriced. Even the Therion squonker was usually $50-$80 MORE than the dual battery non-squonker. I mean really? $50-$80 to cut out a window and add a plastic bottle? I will eventually setup my wood shop and I'll just have to make my own using raw DNA boards and wood if I ever want to squonk.

 

[dripster]

Oooh...I like the look of that one...but that's an RTA isn't it? I haven't done those since 2015 when the first one I tried leaked all over the place....it was the Ephro Revel which i still have somewhere. I know everything has improved but still like the simplicity of the RDA especially since the squonking trend

RTA, yes. I haven't been able to get this one to leak despite I thin out the ends of the wicks a lot so that it's chain-vapable with no dry hits, and, even though I used to strictly adhere to top of the shelf RDAs (I own multiple dozens of them, like, for example, I own nine Kennedy RDAs just because I think owning only eight of 'em is not done because... well, flavor makes the world go round) unlike any other RTA the flavor I get from this the Reload RTA has my... how shall I put it... my seal of approval.

 

[dripster]

I don't do dual/multi coil tanks or drippers. I tried a couple but it was double the work, double the materials/cost, double the juice consumption, half the battery life and very little improvement in flavor from my experience. I know a lot of people love them, I didn't.

For me a dual coil build is not always a strict necessity, but nevertheless I don't do small clouds because the feel of the vape is inseparable from the flavor for me so bake me the juiciest tenderest most flaverful steak, and I'll still tell ya "if you are hungry, anything will taste good..." whenever I find that the texture, the density, or the temperature of the green pepper sauce is not done right. The same with French fries: you can keep calling them French till hell freezes over. But they're still always going to be completely Belgian.

 

[CMD-Ky]

I could not agree more with both statements. The clamp style posts are very easy to build and the deck has plenty of room.
And way more on going money for the non-refillable pods and tanks.

If you are looking for something simple to build and good flavor, look no further:
Entheon Styled BF RDA - $10.23

I don't think RDA's will ever go away, but I have noticed there seems to be a BIG push in the industry toward pod type systems and drop in coil tanks. I really think this is because they would rather sell you a tank and LOTS and LOTS of coils instead of just a tank one time. All about the $$$$.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Well i did mark your post with an "X" .i'd of made it a big ol fat red X if at all possible !!
I am mostly a single coil vaper,and i pretty much know if an atty will suit me or not just by looking at the deck and air flow design
the entheon was the absolute biggest hyped up disappointment that made it to market !!
i trashed both of mine ,no way would i admit to buying that trash by giving them to somebody else
9 years of vaping and i have seen crap come and go,entheon should've never came

 

[CMD-Ky]

I would add to Spydro's post that Ready-X-Wick is very forgiving if you should have a dry hit, now, I never have that problem but if I did...

RDA's will never go away. As said endless new versions are constantly being added to the mix.

My daily drivers for going on six years have been mostly RDA's; since 2014 mostly squonk RDA's, and all of my vaping now days is done with squonk mesh RDA's.

Have also done DIY for nearly six years, and my favorite atty's for trying the DIY's out in is various regular RDA's with RxW builds in them.

RxW is woven ceramic flavor wicking that can easily be restored to bright white like new condition by simply firing the coil(s) until any residual joose is completely burned out of the wick. DIY flavor changes are a breeze, and the RxW lasts a very, very long time.

 

[ScottP]

For me a dual coil build is not always a strict necessity, but nevertheless I don't do small clouds because the feel of the vape is inseparable from the flavor for me so bake me the juiciest tenderest most flaverful steak, and I'll still tell ya "if you are hungry, anything will taste good..." whenever I find that the texture, the density, or the temperature of the green pepper sauce is not done right. The same with French fries: you can keep calling them French till hell freezes over. But they're still always going to be completely Belgian.

You lost me at "bake... the... steak".

 

[dom qp]

The same with French fries: you can keep calling them French till hell freezes over. But they're still always going to be completely Belgian.

We can't let the Flemings take credit. Let's compromise and call them Wall-fries. Or 'sort-of-french-fries'.