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I have a question for the tripsters. Completely off topic and want individual, true, no bars held responses.
If you could not make your house payment, would you ask your child for the money?
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If you found out this happened, how would you deal with it? In an adult manner, of course.


I have no children but if our parents ever needed money for their house note, neither my sisters, brothers or myself would have the kind of money to loan them! Most of us can barely cover ourselves other then my oldest brother but he's an ...... that wouldn't give a dime to you if you where on fire and needed to purchase a fire extinguisher!

If I was buying my home I would likely take account of everything else I owned and sell it all off to cover the house note. It can all be replaced slowly but losing the home makes you homeless and depending upon how long you have paid towards the home you would likely be losing quite a bit more then just a home when you got evicted. (if the person is buying ofc)

But even in this scenario: If enough money isn't coming in and it won't be coming in, in the coming months, selling everything to cover the note would be no more then a bandade and borrowing money from relatives would be nothing but a bandade as well :2c:
 
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I have a question for the tripsters. Completely off topic and want individual, true, no bars held responses.
If you could not make your house payment, would you ask your child for the money?
Second question:
If you found out this happened, how would you deal with it? In an adult manner, of course.

My mom used to ask me for money when I was in high school and she couldnt pay. But she was a single mom. So I think it depends on the situation.

If my husband took money from our kid without telling me, my assumption would be that he was too ashamed to come to me. So if I could, I would pay the kid back, and have a discussion with my husband about trust. Assuming it wasn't because he blew the money on something stupid of coarse. And assuming we were still married and didn't hate each other.
 

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I have no children but if our parents ever needed money for their house note, neither my sisters, brothers or myself would have the kind of money to loan them! Most of us can barely cover ourselves other then my oldest brother but he's an ...... that wouldn't give a dime to you if you where on fire and needed to purchase a fire extinguisher!

If I was buying my home I would likely take account of everything else I owned and sell it all off to cover the house note. It can all be replaced slowly but losing the home makes you homeless and depending upon how long you have paid towards the home you would likely be losing quite a bit more then just a home when you got evicted. (if the person is buying ofc)

It is my ex-his wife refuses to go out and get a job. He started his own business that has not been able to keep up with their way of living. They purchased land and built a house that the business income cannot keep up with. We both invested in the children's college funds for many years to give them a shot at a decent education. My youngest took full advantage and is in the process of building a great foundation for herself. We are soooo proud of her.
He hasn't sold anything and he has a lot he could sell. Yet, asks her for $ to make his personal house payment.
I have issues with this and I ask so as to make sure I can see others thoughts before I have my say. I want to make sure I see this from all sides and give good advice before I go female-LOL. I'm listening~shoot.
 

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My mom used to ask me for money when I was in high school and she couldnt pay. But she was a single mom. So I think it depends on the situation.

If my husband took money from our kid without telling me, my assumption would be that he was too ashamed to come to me. So if I could, I would pay the kid back, and have a discussion with my husband about trust. Assuming it wasn't because he blew the money on something stupid of coarse. And assuming we were still married and didn't hate each other.

We are divorced and I don't hate him, but I really do not like him. This is the reason that I am asking for a bit of outside advice before I respond~ I want to respond with grounded emotion and solid advice. I do not want her to spend her savings on a house that cannot be saved and think that she may see the money returned~ when it won't.

I have experienced the downside and do not think it is wise to take your children with you on the way down.
 

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Evening Tripsters .... how goes it?

Hz - just watch all the court shows on TV and you will see what kind of mess loaning money to relatives can lead to .... I would tell DD not to do it, it could ruin a relationship unless she is prepared to say "If I never get it back, that's ok."

Also, I have traded Trippies for other stuff .... juice, batteries, whatever someone had so they could have their 1st Trippy. :)
 

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Sun,

Here's just a few oldies I have on hand,, the first Original Ext GG's, All Brass Slim, The rare Gold Indulgence,,,,, Original Ext SB's the first,,:laugh: They run 2 x 18650's and are like Billy clubs,,,,, but on a road trip, I take em :laugh:


Okay mwa -- you have just taken my breath away. What beauties! I love them all! Thank you for letting me see these.
 

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Wow, that's a tough situation. I think it calls for a talk with him, and a talk with your daughter. I am divorced and have always had a strict policy of not talking bad about my ex to my son (not hard to do now, the ex died some years ago). But, I do think it would be in your daughter's best interest to talk with her about the possibility that she may not be paid back, not because her dad would choose to not pay her back, but because it seems his finances are on a downward spiral, and it is probable that he won't be able to pay her back. Then I would have a talk with him about getting funds from an adult, not his child, who might not be able to say no to her dad.
 

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IMO there is nothing wrong with a parent asking a grown adult child for some help depending on "why" its needed. In the case of your ex the need sounds like its purely based upon his inablity to handle his own finances in an appropriate manor. Wouldnt matter if it was the parent asking the child or the child asking the parent if the roles were reversed. My answer to either one would be " no, you got yourself into this and I'm not helping you out of this. You have other options and you need to use them. "

BUt IMHO this is really between your ex and your adult child, not you, so tread carefully friend.

And ya, I came back to edit, your child does need to hear they are not likely to ever see the money returned to them so they should NOT plan on that IF they do decide to help.
 

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Your daughter sounds like a bright gal,,,, is it possible you could speak with her 1st,,, before getting involved with dealing with him ? If you could persuade her to come up with a good reason to not pay this bill any longer it would put the pressure back on Him, without you even having to deal with Him, or her,,,,, which probably would be best if this could be done,,, , since your daughter sounds so very bright,,, plus it would make Him & his wife then deal with this like adults rather then going to the child, and also teach the child and adult lesson too, just my immediate thoughts Hzg8
 

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Evening Tripsters .... how goes it?

Hz - just watch all the court shows on TV and you will see what kind of mess loaning money to relatives can lead to .... I would tell DD not to do it, it could ruin a relationship unless she is prepared to say "If I never get it back, that's ok."

Also, I have traded Trippies for other stuff .... juice, batteries, whatever someone had so they could have their 1st Trippy. :)

Loaning $ to relatives never works out. All the money that I have given to my children was and will be done as-gone-never to be seen again, and I know that. I guess perhaps she'll have t learn a very expensive lesson. The problem is I will have to pick up the back end of it~nt sure if I am willing to do so.

I could never trade all my trippies for one item. Happy to introduce someone with a trippytip here and there though!
 
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Hey Sun - I went to Post Office today and asked about package, and no signs of movement on the tracking.
They said -
Tracking movement will show when package is scanned again, which would be at "out for delivery" .....
Give it one or 2 more days, then come back and they will hunt it down if you don't have it by then .....

I told you, it's making me nervous .... :(
 

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We are divorced and I don't hate him, but I really do not like him. This is the reason that I am asking for a bit of outside advice before I respond~ I want to respond with grounded emotion and solid advice. I do not want her to spend her savings on a house that cannot be saved and think that she may see the money returned~ when it won't.

I have experienced the downside and do not think it is wise to take your children with you on the way down.

If its not a one time thing and he's losing the house eventually anyway I think I would tell him he needed to stop draining her and make sure she understood that she's not getting the money back and he will drown her with him if she doesn't say no. If she's an adult and doesn't depend on you for anything, I don't know that there's much more you can do.
 

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Hey Sun - I went to Post Office today and asked about package, and no signs of movement on the tracking.
They said -
Tracking movement will show when package is scanned again, which would be at "out for delivery" .....
Give it one or 2 more days, then come back and they will hunt it down if you don't have it by then .....

I told you, it's making me nervous .... :(

It's starting to make me nervous too. I've never had a package take so long, but maybe I am just being antsy about it. Little donut? Little donut? Where are you? Come to mama......

Hey Blu? Thanks for checking on it for me :)
 

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Wow, that's a tough situation. I think it calls for a talk with him, and a talk with your daughter. I am divorced and have always had a strict policy of not talking bad about my ex to my son (not hard to do now, the ex died some years ago). But, I do think it would be in your daughter's best interest to talk with her about the possibility that she may not be paid back, not because her dad would choose to not pay her back, but because it seems his finances are on a downward spiral, and it is probable that he won't be able to pay her back. Then I would have a talk with him about getting funds from an adult, not his child, who might not be able to say no to her dad.

She has asked me not to call him, which I have agreed not to at this point. I have never spoken badly about him to them and never will. I always saw that as a horrendous thing to do. I did let her know that she may never see the money again and then again you never know, but to not expect it and get it was a good feeling.

IMO there is nothing wrong with a parent asking a grown adult child for some help depending on "why" its needed. In the case of your ex the need sounds like its purely based upon his inablity to handle his own finances in an appropriate manor. Wouldnt matter if it was the parent asking the child or the child asking the parent if the roles were reversed. My answer to either one would be " no, you got yourself into this and I'm not helping you out of this. You have other options and you need to use them. "

BUt IMHO this is really between your ex and your adult child, not you, so tread carefully friend.

And ya, I came back to edit, your child does need to hear they are not likely to ever see the money returned to them so they should NOT plan on that IF they do decide to help.

I would not have the info if she were not looking for advice on the situation, I just hung up the phone from her about an hour ago. I knew 1 year ago they had filed for bankruptcy and things were looking grim. I never said anything to the kids as I figured it wasn't info to share with them. Now I wonder if that was a good decision. Which is why I now ask the trippy fam and make a more informed decision with other points of view.

Your daughter sounds like a bright gal,,,, is it possible you could speak with her 1st,,, before getting involved with dealing with him ? If you could persuade her to come up with a good reason to not pay this bill any longer it would put the pressure back on Him, without you even having to deal with Him, or her,,,,, which probably would be best if this could be done,,, , since your daughter sounds so very bright,,, plus it would make Him & his wife then deal with this like adults rather then going to the child, and also teach the child and adult lesson too, just my immediate thoughts Hzg8

Problem is, she has a big heart and doesn't want to see anyone do without. She is willing to sacrifice for others to thrive. He puts the, I have done so much for you guilt trip on her. I am not sure she knows how to say no to him and not feel responsible for his inability to make his own house payment. I guess I should have told her about the bankruptcy. Just when you think you are doing the right thing-bam-something comes up and makes you rethink your previous thought process.
 
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