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Galactic Stone

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Story of my life: coming up with a brilliant idea long after it's been tried and proven useless.

Great ideas have a way of permeating the collective unconscious mind and surfacing in multiple places at multiple times.

It's actually an idea that is in widespread use now for meteorite recovery by science and private hunters. It is a valuable tool that has speeded up meteorite recovery, allowing the specimens to be collected shortly after they fall and before they become contaminated by exposure to Earth's environment. Unfortunately (or fortunately!) there is no real commercial potential here to make a profit doing it. That is why corporations and governments have no interest in it. Scientists love it though.
 

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Sorry gang, a couple of hours turned into a couple of days - sometimes life is a 3-ring circus and it's hard to get online time. :)

jb80 originally said :

That's a really kind offer but I couldn't possibly accept it as I was only joking around when I said that. Plus we have just moved to Spain and I wouldn't expect anyone to front the international postage for that. I do have a small collection though, that part was serious.
I appreciate the offer though.

International postage only gets expensive for heavy or large parcels. I can send a small sample-sized meteorite in a package under 4 ounces for about $5, so it's not a big expense at all. I've sent freebies to every corner of the planet. :)

Hmm... Spain is a pretty large and in parts arid country. There is bound to be something here. I might look into that but I dread to think what sort of rules they may have in place.

I'm not familiar with Spanish law, but I do have a customer in Spain who I can ask.

Spain has a few dozen important meteorite falls and many documented finds. See the link below. It shows all officially-recognized meteorites from Spain. Many of the entries contain GPS coordinates or other geographic information that you can use as a starting point to search.

Link - Meteoritical Bulletin: Search the Database


Really, I would of thought there would of been more?
I don't know why but it just seems that way but maybe there are more hobbyists and enthusiasts making their presence known so it seems otherwise.
As much as I like that show when I have seen it I would take much of it with a pinch of salt. Although some of the place they have been I'd love to visit.

There are many amateur hunters and many are successful - they contribute to the body of science, enlarge their own collections, and occasionally sell some pieces. But very few people make a comfortable living solely from hunting and selling meteorites. Hunting meteorites is a drain on financial resources, time, and energy. Even in a known strewnfield that has produced many meteorites, one can do a systematic careful search for days and not find a single fragment. Travel expenses, lodging, food, incidentals, and not to mention the cost of equipment. It's not a very profitable pursuit except for the very lucky few. Most meteorite hunters have rocks in their heads. ;)

After reading your post last night I was checking out Peace River and that sort of thing looks like the perfect activity to do with the family. My only concern is what the water levels would be in late January and whether that would stop you if it was too high. I'm going to google Bone Valley in a minute and check that out as well.
There was one site I was looking at that mentioned they have a group permit so that would cover you on one of their trips but it looks so straight forward I'm not sure you even need a guide. Then again it's always useful to have someone who knows what they are doing.


Thanks Mike for your detailed and informative response. I find this thread very interesting and am glad you started it.

The dry season is typically in the "winter" - I put that in quotes, because winters here are very mild. We have had very rainy summer this year, so the rivers are very high and it's not good for fossil hunting at the moment. Although, after a good rain, one can search the banks and washouts. That is how we have lucked up on a few things. The small handful of times I searched the rivers with a screen, I only found a few tiny common fossils and nothing to get excited about. It's a lot like meteorite hunting - you do it more for the outdoors and thrill of doing something you love. :)

Best regards,

MikeG
 

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jb80 said :

As a backyard astronomer this is something I'm interested in too.
I'm pretty confident that our next house move will be more of a permanent one or at least permanent enough to build an observatory and one of the things I've already considered is an all-sky camera. To be honest I could get one now but I have other plans in the pipe line for now. Too many unfinished projects as it is.

I do know of a few people setting up their own radio echo's detectors which if memory serves me correctly involves finding some dead space on the AM radio channel, a big antenna and some free software.
Again all very interesting.

The good thing is, those cameras are getting cheaper and cheaper (like everything else nowadays). I just don't have the time to mess with one. I do like to go out on a dark night and do a little stargazing, although I don't get out now nearly as much as I used to. One good thing about vaporizers over analog cigs or cigars - no smoke to get on the optics. :)

Clear dark skies!

MikeG
 

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Sorry gang, a couple of hours turned into a couple of days - sometimes life is a 3-ring circus and it's hard to get online time. :)

No worries, the weekend caught up with me too.



International postage only gets expensive for heavy or large parcels. I can send a small sample-sized meteorite in a package under 4 ounces for about $5, so it's not a big expense at all. I've sent freebies to every corner of the planet. :)

I might drop you a PM then, that's very generous of you. :)


I'm not familiar with Spanish law, but I do have a customer in Spain who I can ask.

From my short time here I don't even think the lawmakers are familiar with the law either. The closest I could find to any type of info was a club for metal detecting and even then they mainly stick to the beaches only after they have obtained the required paperwork and permissions from local councils.
It seems a big hurdle is there just isn't much public land around.
I could be wrong though.

Spain has a few dozen important meteorite falls and many documented finds. See the link below. It shows all officially-recognized meteorites from Spain. Many of the entries contain GPS coordinates or other geographic information that you can use as a starting point to search.

Link - Meteoritical Bulletin: Search the Database

Thanks for the link I haven't come across that one before, there are a couple of historical one nearish to me.


There are many amateur hunters and many are successful - they contribute to the body of science, enlarge their own collections, and occasionally sell some pieces. But very few people make a comfortable living solely from hunting and selling meteorites. Hunting meteorites is a drain on financial resources, time, and energy. Even in a known strewnfield that has produced many meteorites, one can do a systematic careful search for days and not find a single fragment. Travel expenses, lodging, food, incidentals, and not to mention the cost of equipment. It's not a very profitable pursuit except for the very lucky few. Most meteorite hunters have rocks in their heads. ;)

Put that way it would be a drain on expenses. I like to do things that coincide with other things like when on holiday or something. Then again I wouldn't do it for a business.
Still, I suppose there are worse ways to make a living.

The dry season is typically in the "winter" - I put that in quotes, because winters here are very mild. We have had very rainy summer this year, so the rivers are very high and it's not good for fossil hunting at the moment. Although, after a good rain, one can search the banks and washouts. That is how we have lucked up on a few things. The small handful of times I searched the rivers with a screen, I only found a few tiny common fossils and nothing to get excited about. It's a lot like meteorite hunting - you do it more for the outdoors and thrill of doing something you love. :)

Sounds like it's well worth investigating if we get down that way.
I quite like the idea of it anyway, even a few tiny fossils would excite the kids anything else would be a bonus.
 

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The good thing is, those cameras are getting cheaper and cheaper (like everything else nowadays). I just don't have the time to mess with one. I do like to go out on a dark night and do a little stargazing, although I don't get out now nearly as much as I used to. One good thing about vaporizers over analog cigs or cigars - no smoke to get on the optics. :)

Clear dark skies!

MikeG

Yeah, even cheaper for us if we order Stateside. Also if you are DIY inclined things can be even cheaper but I'm not so great with electronics.
Vaping is much cleaner than the analogues for sure, one of these days I'll get around to cleaning the mirrors but for now it's OK.
 
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