asking for advice with replacement

[Adrian Monk]

Hello The thing I want to ask about is, what do you guys things, what are the best vape kits with built in battery which are making the biggest clouds/vapor, I don´t need the best taste of liquid, but I definitely want massive clouds , I´m thinking about Tarot Nano but I don´t know, what do you think is the best kit in this category ? built in battery, big clouds ... by the way I´m using joyetech egrip 2, but want something else, I´m able to pay up to 70 euro or so

 

[bombastinator]

Tarot nano is a MTL vape. It maxes out at 40w as well. Cloud chasers generally use giant 3 battery mods not itty bitty things like the tarot.

You could in theory build a mid power coil the tarot would fire but you’d get like 3 vapes out of it before you needed to recharge

 

[Adrian Monk]

ye but, I would like to buy a kit and that´s it, you know i´m not that experienced in these things, so I would like to get some kit, which is pretty good in making big clouds, ofc it dont have to be the best, just better than joyetech egrip 2 but thanks for answer

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Any of the smok baby beast, cloud beast, prince, king beast & any of the ultra mega sooperbeast cloudz bro type stuf smok makes.
Keep in mind they have a well earned reputation of poor QC.
But they make bro cloudz with high% Vg liquids.

 

[stols001]

I have a tarot nano, and I like it a lot but I am a MTL vaper. You won't be blowing huge clouds with the nano.

There are tons of more sub0hm kits out and about, almost all two battery mod kits come with a sub0hm tank. You could consider an eleaf invoke kit, although the tank is small for a sub0hm tank, it is a sub0hm tank, with topfill. I would say just look at two battery mod kits, and then check the specs on the tank itself. The resistance of the coils and tank size will tell you how sub0hm the associated kit is, and the resistance options of the coil.

To be honest, though, I think you will find that many of the "beloved" sub0hm tanks, such as the Uwell Crown (original and 3) don't come in a kit, or if they do, you still may be better served by purchasing both items singly. I'd look for high wattage two battery mods that appeal to you, and some of the more interesting sub0hm tanks, like the Uwell crown. It gets great flavor and has lots of coil options, I don't think I've seen negative feedback on the forum at all, the users are satisfied. You could get a smok kit, but be warned some users have had difficulty with the coils, and the mod also won't perform well in TC mod. Reliable mod-makers include teslacigs, Vapresso, Voopoo, aspire, and several others. You could look into a DNA mod, but it will be pricier and unless you plan on using TC, perhaps not worth the money you'd spend on such a mod.

Best of luck and I hope you can find either a kit, or a setup that you think you will enjoy. You really are going to need a two battery (external battery) mod to really turn to sub0hm, as otherwise your battery life will be poor. For information and batteries you could go here: Mooch's blog | E-Cigarette Forum

It will tell you what batteries are authentic, safe for you wattage, and good vendors. You'll also need a good external charger, which need not be ultra pricy.

Best of luck,

Anna

 

[Adrian Monk]

yes, thank you very very much for your answers and for explanation, but the thing is, that I´m looking for the kit which have built in battery, I know it wont perform great clouds like the ones with 2 batteries, but still, i´m finding that with built in battery, and I wanted to know about some kit which is best in that category, that´s why I was considering tarot nano, so if you could recommend something good with built in battery but still thank you so much

 

[stols001]

That's going to get kind of tough if you want to seriously sub0hm. What kind of resistance are you looking for? There's the smokstick I guess, if you want more of a tube style mod but it's fixed wattage, which you may not be into. I just think it may be difficult to find an internal battery mod that will support the resistance you may want, honestly. You're going to very seriously limit your choices, although I think Innoken makes some internal mods that support a reasonable wattage. You could check them out. If you want an internal battery mod for all day and supporting fairly high wattage, I'm not sure how achievable that is.

When you say "Sub0hm" what sort of resistance are you meaning? I mean, 0.5 is technically sub0hm, but quite different from say, a 0.15 resistance, etc. So where do you want to be at? Also, is there a reason you want an internal battery mod? I really think you'd be better suited to purchase a reliable, removable two battery mod setup. I know the startup costs are higher, you just very much limit your options with a USB charge, internal battery setup, and how long it will last is also going to depend on your wattage, unfortunately.

Good luck,

Anna

 

[madstabber]

Myvaporstore has the revenger go kit that would not only suit your needs but is also a good mod and tank.
Vaporesso Revenger Go with NRG Tank Starter Kit - 5000mAh

 

[madstabber]

Here one that a little cheaper but also has a nice 5000mah internal battery and a tank that can chuck clouds.
Eleaf iStick QC 200W with Melo 300 Sub-Ohm Starter Kit

 

[ExtremeDooty]

You should take a look at the eGo Mega Twist. It has an internal battery and you can adjust the wattage between 5-30 watts. It actually does pretty well making clouds.
Joyetech eGo Mega Twist Plus Starter Kit

I'm not sure why you are so insistent about an internal battery, but if you're looking for something small that you can charge with a wall charger, you could consider a Vaporesso Target Pro. It runs on a single external battery, but if you use a wall charger you'd never have to take the battery out. It does really well with flavor and cloud making. You would also have a lot more options should you change your mind about your vaping needs. The ceramic coils last a long time as well.

 

[Adrian Monk]

thank you very much for your answers again, and special thanks to you madstabber, I´m really interested in that revenger go kit, and I´m looking for ressistance like beetween 0,15 to 0,5 ohm, and why I want built in battery ? because it is more comfortable for me, like I just recharge it with USB cable, and as I heard you have to pretty much take care of batteries, and also it sounds easier and safer to just have one which is built in

 

[hambone0424]

One of the smok kits with the prince is your best option i hear the coils are best out of the smok bunch i like the look of the x priv no built in battery though

 

[dom qp]

Tarot nano is a MTL vape. It maxes out at 40w as well. Cloud chasers generally use giant 3 battery mods not itty bitty things like the tarot.

You could in theory build a mid power coil the tarot would fire but you’d get like 3 vapes out of it before you needed to recharge

I used the Tarot Nano tank as a DTL tank exclusively. Kind of surprised to see some people consider it MTL.

Edit: Just tried it out with max airflow as a sanity check. It's definitely DTL.

It also maxes out at 80W, not 40W.

Changing up the tank you can get decent clouds from such a small device.

MVP4 is a 100W boxmod with a built in 4500 mah battery:
Innokin MVP4 4500mAh 100W TC Box Mod

As far as I know, it also has real passthrough; meaning you can vape while it's charging.

I'd pick up that and a crown 3. Should work pretty much like a 2x 18650 mod.

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi and welcome. I don't like or use fixed battery mods, so I don't have any advice for you

 

[bombastinator]

I used the Tarot Nano tank as a DTL tank exclusively. Kind of surprised to see some people consider it MTL.

Edit: Just tried it out with max airflow as a sanity check. It's definitely DTL.

It also maxes out at 80W, not 40W.

Changing up the tank you can get decent clouds from such a small device:



MVP4 is a 100W boxmod with a built in 4500 mah battery:
Innokin MVP4 4500mAh 100W TC Box Mod

As far as I know, it also has real passthrough; meaning you can vape while it's charging.

I'd pick up that and a crown 3. Should work pretty much like a 2x 18650 mod.

Apparently I am conflating the nano and the mini

 

[Adrian Monk]

One of the smok kits with the prince is your best option i hear the coils are best out of the smok bunch i like the look of the x priv no built in battery though

I looked into that smok stick prince and yea well, it looks like something i´m looking for, and it is a bit cheaper than the others because of it don´t have TC or any display with many options right ? thanks for this suggestion

 

[Eskie]

If you insist on an internal battery the Eleaf 200W mod is fine for powering just about anything you could use for clouds. Top it with a Prince or other Smok offering and you'll be able to fog up a room.

 

[BrotherBob]

I looked into that smok stick prince and yea well, it looks like something i´m looking for, and it is a bit cheaper than the others because of it don´t have TC or any display with many options right ? thanks for this suggestion

Welcome and glad you joined.
Wishing you luck, just be careful and safe.
Might like to read:
http://best-e-cigarette-guide.com/e...cigarettes/sub-ohm-vaping-perks-and-problems/
What is Sub Ohm Vaping? Our Sub Ohm Vaping Guide & Tips
https://spinfuel.com/sub-ohm-vaping/http://www.discountvapers.com/battery-safety/
Care and Use of 510, eGo and Variable Voltage Batteries
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blog-entry/7-information-resources-for-your-first-rba.4454/
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/ecf-sub-ohm-advisory.562106/