Asking for professional help with DIY..

[pinellaspete]

You need to cut the amount of flavoring you are adding.

You need to add an acid to your mix.

3 drops per 5ml of one of the following acids:

Concentrated Lemon juice (Citric Acid)
Apple Cider Vinegar
Malic Acid

The acids will make the flavors more pronounced and cut the sharpness from tobacco flavors. They also act as preservatives so you flavor won't fade over time.

Adding an acid to your juice produces a complex chemical reaction that preserves the flavor and shelf life of your juice.

 

[cricque]

First of all I am not a professional at all, just been mixing alot and reading these forums way too much

I stopped using %, since this just made me go nuts. Besides on heavily concentrated stuff like vapingzone flavors, for 5 ml this is sometimes very hard to measure. 5 ml usually is my test sample. Then I switched to the following. I make some 11mg mix of PG/VG, and just add drops. Add a drop, shake, test on a dripper. When I am close i let it steep. This worked out good for me. But every vendor has different bottles etc. So drop size might change amongst vendors and on small batches 2 big drops is not the same as 2 very tiny drops

So recently I got me some glass bottles (10ml )all with the same droppers (which are very slow ones), and I put my flavors in those bottles. This saves me the pain of measurement and worrying about the size of the drops, since those will all be the same. If I make something now I can revert it to percentages. And for alot of stuff I am not anywhere near the percentages the vendros prescribe, I am usually way below that. When I get new flavors in, i still test them from the bottle they came from, since some flavors you might not like etc

Anyway for me the drops is way easier, you can easily revert to percentages if you want and make a good calculation for larger batches, you can't overdo flavor by adding a drop. After a while you will start to know if a flavor is weak or not and just go with 2 or 4 drop increments.


And like mentioned in other posts you need some type of acid. If you just want a small kick in something, champagne flavor (not the real stuff) might also do the trick

 

[graffinfected]

thank you cricque.. good advice.. and yes i knew about the acid.. thanks very much for the advice people..

 

[AbominableVap3Man]

I remember seeing or hearing something about an e-juice sweetner that you can add. Does any one know which company or companies make it?

 

[graffinfected]

i know that from TPA you can use their sweetener,EM,you can also use their cotton candy.. some people say that they use the cotton candy for sweetener.. which i can understand because in my case, i cant taste anything remotely close to cotton candy in that flavor.. im going to try the lorann cotton candy but i think i have read somewhere on this forum thats its the same deal... for some reason i dont get that cotton candy taste i know and love.. theres other company's that sell sweetener, but its just basicly sucrolose... (i believe thats how you spell it).

 

[bivie]

Those DIYers who decide to not use sucralose, often use liquid Stevia such as this:

https://www.supplementwarehouse.com/viewitem.asp?idproduct=167439

 

[~Sue~Feb2012]

Great thread Graf, I've been learning alot here! I've done a lot of trial and errors too. I still have to try the lemon or ACV. I have tons of Capellas, TPA and recently a bunch of Vapingzones concentrated flavors. I'm having the best results so far with VZ. I use 5ml bottles of 18 mg VG base nic and added 3 drops of the concentrated flavors. Many were great without steeping and some got better in a week or so. I also tried adding 10% PG to my nic base and that seems to bring more flavor pop too. I can't go higher than 20% PG because it's irritating to me, but does seem to enhance some flavors. For sweetening, I use sucralose from TPA and also make my own ethyl maltol sweetener with PG/VG mix and VG/everclear mix. Each type of sweetener tastes different and adds sometimes unusual dimensions to flavors I have a lot of vendor premade ejucies that are awful but instead of throwing them out I've learned to "fix" them with my DIY stuff and make them vapeable LOL
Good luck! This is a fascinating journey isn't it!!