Aspire Atlantis for newbie?

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Rucerius

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Ok, this is my first thread (although I have popped in on a few others).
I'm currently quite happy with my eGo using Aspire BDC clearomisers and am not planning on upgrading in the near future. On another forum I saw someone asking about ways to stop smoking and a few people suggested switching to ecigs with various setups. One person was insisting that the Aspire Atlantis with the Sub Ohm battery was perfectly fine for a newbie and that the starter sets being sold are garbage.

Their actual statement was:
If you plan on getting into vaping skip the BS eGo setups.

Get an aspire atlantis and the sub-ohm battery for it and call it a day. I'm dead serious. if you start with one of those cheap-o setups you are just flushing money down the drain because as you learn more about vaping you WILL upgrade. I promise.

My question to you folks is, would you ever recommend this setup for someone who has never vaped before?
 

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The person saying the Atlantis is the only way to go is Full Of BS. Myself and hundreds of others managed some how without the All Mighty Atlantis. Do what works for you, the atlantis is just the latest Hype product.
My advice learn to walk and then if you choose to you may run.
Personally, I just don't get it, Sub-Ohm Clearo, Really
 

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Not without providing them resources to understand battery safety. I would be suspicious of anyone using the phrase "sub-ohm battery," whatever that means?

Nowadays the whole sub-ohm phenomenon isn't that big of a deal as you can build higher resistances and power them with the new generation of higher wattage regulated mods, getting an arguably superior vape.

In my opinion, the aspire atlantis addresses that sector of the market that thinks, "Oh, I read about sub-ohming on the internet so it must be awesome--here's my $40!"
 

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I absolutely do not agree. The Atlantis is pretty much a "safer" intro to cloud chasing than building your own coils and using mech mods or high-powered vv/vw mods. Do people who smoke cigarettes chase clouds? I didn't, and I doubt that I would have switched if that was the first option presented to me. My friends that have recently started vaping (and still smoke occasionally) can't handle hitting my setups. It's a progression, which many if not most people choose not to partake in at all.
 

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The Atlantis is absolutley groundbreaking in my humble opinion.

It is not the know all be all of vaping. There are Rebuildable tanks and drippers that totally crush the atlantis. There are other devices on the market that give a great vaping experience. Nautilus and the istick mini is a very popular choice right now.

That being said... If I could go back to the time when I tried to quit smoking and the Atlantis was available... I would have bought one immediatley.

I am currently vaping Jerry Juice on my Atlantis using the aspire CF SUB battery designed for it. It gives me clouds of satisfying favor, great flavor and its completely plug and play. I dont have to set wattage, voltage, havent had a leak or a gurgle yet.

When I am in the office I use the smallest airflow setting and a nautilus drip tip for less vapor but a little more pronounced flavor. When I am outside in the smoking are I have it wide open with the large drip tip it came with for nice clouds of vapor.

The only reason I still use my nautilus is because I only have a limited supply of 6mg juice. If I vape my 12mg juice in the Atlantis I get light headed from the nicotine because of the amount of vapor it gives off.

This is just my personal opinion. I really enjoy it to the point of not wanting to bother with anything else for vaping. I have let a few guys try it out here and have had to write down the name Atlantis and CF SUB battery 3 or 4 times now for those dying to get one.

I have the kanger subtank coming, I have a kayfun, some drippers and a Lemo drop... I am not replacing any of them... But as far as my day to day, carry it with me plug and play tank and battery the Atlantis is it.

You will not be dissapointed with its performance, you may need to find a good deal on juice.... It does go through it at an alarming rate.

Very satisfying vape... best plug and play vape I have ever even come close to.
 

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I would not recommend that at all! The Atlantis requires a mod with sub ohm capabillities which can kind of be dangerous when using home built coils which I know you probably dont plan to but honestly the amount of vapor it produces is way way over the top. The Atlantis I feel is more for hobbyist and t.b.h. you might be there in a couple of months but for me personally its not an every day vape deal. For newbies starting out I would recommend building a stable system first. That simply put is a system where you can pick up a vape when you need it and vape which is more complicated than it sounds. You may have to purchase more than one mod so you have one charging and one ready or pick up extra batteries for a system that uses removable batteries. You can of course achieve this on the types of mods that would fire an Atlantis but its so much easier just starting out small and getting use to things and moving on from there... vaping sort of follows a natural progression but you really dont know what route your going to go until your really involved with it.
 

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I wouldn't recommend the Atlantis for a beginner. My reasoning is that it's not cheap and they will have have to buy a battery device specifically to run it on, which can limit their choices. After all that, they might not like it. Not everyone is a fan of direct lung hits in the beginning (some never are) and the Atlantis performs poorly with mouth-to-lung inhales. The Must Have Hot Toy in vaping changes all the time.

To put it gently, the person who posted that is a nimrod. I could just as easily say...here it comes..."just get a P-- you will end up with one anyway." No one can predict what another person will discover is their vaping nirvana.
 
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I suspect that the rationale behind a 'starter kit' is to introduce the idea of vaping to someone cheaply and easily so they can see if it's likely to work for them. As such it's an easy way to get someone up and running but on it's own is not sufficient in the medium to long term (given they generally consist of 2 small batteries and 2 plastic cleros).

All that being said. I have the Atlantis and sub ohm battery and I see no reason why a new vaper couldn't operate it, it's just a tank with an ego battery in reality.
 

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I would not recommend that at all! The Atlantis requires a mod with sub ohm capabillities which can kind of be dangerous when using home built coils which I know you probably dont plan to but honestly the amount of vapor it produces is way way over the top. .

Ummmm... Aspire built a protected battery for the Atlantis with sub ohm capabilities that will not fire if the ohms drop below 0.5.

You need zero knowledge to use an ATlantis with a CF SUb and are at no more risk than using an ego.

It is my daily driver and my last daily driver was a nautilus. It produces a lot of vapor, but isnt restricted to hobbiests. Its a simple plug and play set up that gives a great vape, period. Lets not confuse this with sub ohm vaping with a mech mod, there are no coils to warp, nothing to calculate. This is easier to use than an ego twist.

How is this not ok for someone new to vaping? I would have loved to been able to skip wasting money on egos and low end tanks.

It is certainly a better idea than a 1st day vaper walking out of a shop with a mech and dripper.
 
Hi! Newbie here, saw this post, and figured I would throw down my two cents.
I consider myself a very experienced vaper, and I work part time at a B&M shop - here is my experience with how the Atlantis fits into the starter category.

There are people who will come into the shop wanting an atlantis right out of the gate - I had one customer last week who had watched a lot of videos online about dripping, rebuilding, etc - he came in looking to get set up with a mech, dripper, wick, wire, etc. He had never so much as owned any gear - he had used a friend's dripper a couple of times, but that's about it. He wanted big flavor and big vapor. The one thing he had going for him, at least, was that he was a non-smoker - just wanted the flavor and the experience. Once he saw an RDA up close, and realized that online videos tend to benefit from zooming the camera in, he started to realize that he may be getting ready to bite off more than he could chew (I will never refuse to sell something to anybody, unless they are minors. If they are going way too deep way too fast, I will talk to them about the pros and cons as I demonstrate the product, educating them to the point of making their own decisions). He started to ask himself if he really could handle starting that far up the ladder. Where do I go from there, though? For someone looking for flavor and clouds, a Nautilus is very good for flavor, but may still leave them wanting, particularly given the fact that he has taken some pulls off a big-boy vape. The Sub-Ohm battery was a natural choice for him, as it gives him the ability to try building at his leisure, with some low-res protection (he was turned off by the size/shape of box mods).
That's where the Atlantis and Sub-Tank come into play - they are a bridge between the traditional starter kits, and the hobby-side gear (as I call it).

On the other side of the coin, I have upgraded people from their Aerotank/Nautilus to the Atlantis/Subtank, and that first pull is, well, almost funny. One guy was insistent that his 18mg would work just fine with no ill effects. He ended up buying the 18, as well as a couple of bottles of 0 to cut it down after just about hacking up a lung. People have been everything from pleasantly surprised, to wondering if they will really be able to use their new equipment.

If you are considering the Atlantis, take some time to really consider what it is that you are looking for. There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking a couple of steps back (I still use my Nautilus Mini on a very regular basis), and you may find yourself never actually moving into the world of sub-ohm devices.
 

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I suspect that the rationale behind a 'starter kit' is to introduce the idea of vaping to someone cheaply and easily so they can see if it's likely to work for them. As such it's an easy way to get someone up and running but on it's own is not sufficient in the medium to long term (given they generally consist of 2 small batteries and 2 plastic cleros).

All that being said. I have the Atlantis and sub ohm battery and I see no reason why a new vaper couldn't operate it, it's just a tank with an ego battery in reality.

I don't think the question was if a beginner could operate it, but whether or not it was a good choice.
 

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Start out "easy" and less expensive (note, I didn't say cheap), make sure vaping is for you (which it is for most that try it). Some stay with that for years and some then start the search for the best vape experience, a lot depends on how deep your pockets. Should you embrace "the hobby" and want to step up, the Atlantis is but one choice, a very good one for those of us unable or unwilling to go the building route. And should you chose to join that ultimate vape search, the benefits of whichever route you take will seem far more significant and fulfilling. Don't sweat the expense of starting out easy.....you just made your purchase of backups "in advance".
 

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I think its not a good choice if you never smoke a cigarette before.

Why would anyone right out the gate want that much vapor as a non smoker?

I was a heavy smoker and I felt like my face was going to cave in I had to suck so hard on an ego/CE4 to get any vapor or flavor.

But if you want a very reliable set up with coils that you can get a week out of ( I have been getting closer to 2 weeks ) and a nice easy draw... the Atlantis isnt a bad choice.

Heck my first brick an mortar ego kit had 2 batteries, 2 CE4s and 2 15ml bottle of juice for 100$ and didnt last me more than a week before I moved up to an MVP/Protank set up...

This is just my opinion of the Atlantis being a great set up. Its kinda like a great big wonderful ego/CE4 all over again. Fill, vape, repeat.
 

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For myself, perhaps one day I will step up to the Atlantis/SubOhm but for now I'm quite happy with my "starter". I've been lurking these forums and learning quite a bit and I wouldn't recommend anyone start out with expensive equipment with no experience.

The person saying the Atlantis is the only way to go is Full Of BS. Myself and hundreds of others managed some how without the All Mighty Atlantis. Do what works for you, the atlantis is just the latest Hype product.
My advice learn to walk and then if you choose to you may run.
Personally, I just don't get it, Sub-Ohm Clearo, Really

This was my feeling as well, the Atlantis isn't intended for someone who has never vaped before (and may not even like it).

Not without providing them resources to understand battery safety. I would be suspicious of anyone using the phrase "sub-ohm battery," whatever that means?

Nowadays the whole sub-ohm phenomenon isn't that big of a deal as you can build higher resistances and power them with the new generation of higher wattage regulated mods, getting an arguably superior vape.

In my opinion, the aspire atlantis addresses that sector of the market that thinks, "Oh, I read about sub-ohming on the internet so it must be awesome--here's my $40!"
The "sub-ohm battery" is what Aspire calls their battery designed to work with the Atlantis.
 
I can't believe the number of aspire haters out there. I got ripped off on my first purchase (ego kit ) which I got little satisfaction from and quickly moved up through the Spinners then an Evic with a nautilus. In the mean time I tried a mech mod outfit and found it a complete waste of time. I smoked for 42 years and was convinced vaping was for me after the first tug. Had the Atlantis and partner sub ohm battery been available at the time I would have been very grateful to some one turning me on to it rather than wasting time and money on less satisfying equipment. It's nothing more than an ego on steroids. Get one and you'll never need anything else.
 

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I can't believe the number of aspire haters out there. I got ripped off on my first purchase (ego kit ) which I got little satisfaction from and quickly moved up through the Spinners then an Evic with a nautilus. In the mean time I tried a mech mod outfit and found it a complete waste of time. I smoked for 42 years and was convinced vaping was for me after the first tug. Had the Atlantis and partner sub ohm battery been available at the time I would have been very grateful to some one turning me on to it rather than wasting time and money on less satisfying equipment. It's nothing more than an ego on steroids. Get one and you'll never need anything else.

I feel the almost the same way! Get one any you will never need anything else... nah... More like vape one and you wont want anything else... as in you wont ever pick up another ego or plastic clearo tank. You more than likely wont want to fuss with a leaking kayfun. For me this is the absolute bottom line lowest vaping experience I want anymore. I will still play around with drippers, and I may pull out my kanger aero mega and MVP for a long road trip ( I wouldnt be able to see the road through the Atlantis vapor clouds ).

I used low end starter kits because I was desperate to quit smoking. I would have gladly payed a little more for a quality set up. As a noob vaper I dont know where else you can get a better vape right out the gate and not need to learn ohms law and how to build coils.
 

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I'm a newb and I just upgraded to an Atlantis and I love it! I could care less about the marketing hype or popularity, and I'm too new to this scene to be an elitist vape equipment snob.

I've been vaping on and off over the last year on friends rigs and finally bough a rig of my own about 3 weeks ago wanting to kick cigs for good. It was an ego batt with an Aspire BDC tank. It gave good flav, but the batt needed to be charged several times per day. Coming off cigs, what sucked for me was... sucking that damn thing to get a decent hit! Like sucking a fresh milkshake out of a constricted straw. I also hated the small tank and having to refill it so often. SO 1 week into vaping I went back to that shop wanting better airflown and capacity and I got a deal on Kanger aerotank v1 with airflow adjustment thinking that would solve both issues I had. I was wrong! Still too constricted for me!

5 days ago, I knew I needed to upgrade the batt/mod; I wanted variable voltage and a longer lasting batt. I ended up visiting another shop and sitting and talking to the owner during the middle of a weekday. I told him my issues with my setup and walked out 2+ hours later with a new rig. My wife wants the old one, so no real loss. I got an ipv mini mod and the Atlantis tank. Best flowing tank I've ever tried! I love it! I not into cloud forming, but I love the adjustability of the airflow on this tank.

So, the Atlantis is good for a beginner like myself who doesn't want to suck so much as puff easily! Its big and holds a lot of juice, disassembly and cleaning are easy and so is coil replacement. As a rule of thumb, if trying a new juice I'll start at 10 watts and work my way up, until I like the taste and flav. Usually 20-25W for my thick high VG content stuff. I'll also experiment with the airflow when trying new juice.
 
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Hey Rucerius!

I'm brand new to vaping, as in a few weeks solid now and no cigs or chew!!!! Feeling great about it too... My first vape expeience was with Vuse Solo ecigs from the gas station, once I saw that I could cut back on tobacco with just those, I was stoked! I ordered a starter kit that had Kanger T3S tanks and some 900mah batteries and went at it and was very happy indeed-- got me completely off ALL tobacco!!! Being so overwhelmed and happy I ran out to a local vape shop to look for my next step... The guy showed me the Atlantis tank and the Aspire sub-ohm battery setup and I bought it.

I may have ruined the first head/coil cause I just filled the tank, let it sit for about an hour and started vaping-- this burned the silica filler material around the coil and gave a burnt taste... I replaced the head with the spare it came with after priming it really well with ejuice-- drops directly into the filler material around the edges beneath the screen, a drop or two down the middle actually onto the coil, and a couple drops into the wicking material around the sides through the holes. After prepping the head I screwed it into the tank side, filled it with juice and let it sit for a bit.

My results have been EXACTLY what I had hoped vaping would be!!! I get good strong flavorful clean hits that provide everything I want or need! I love this set up... Think about being a new vaper in terms of what you're comfortable with-- How big and powerful of a hit do YOU need to be satisfied enough not to go back to tobacco? While the starter kit DID get me off tobacco, this Aspire sub-ohm battery with the Atlantis tank puts me in the frame of mind that I WILL NEVER RETURN TO CIGARETTES OR CHEWING TOBACCO, EVER!!! The vaping beats the pants off of any other means of nicotine delivery, IMO...

Good luck and keep us posted on your progress!
 
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