Could be. I just tried the Nano at 20 watts and after 2.5 seconds it was too hot. It still vapes good at lower wattage. I'll try the 1.2 ohm coil later and see if it makes a difference.
Aspire Atlantis vs Kanger Subtank vs Eleaf Melo - Not liking Atlantis coils
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Strange I am on my 9th Atlantis coil and have not had a bad one yet. I've primed every one the same way and they all seem to work the same. I'd like to hear how people like the Melo coils in the Atlantis. I saw a review for the melo and the reviewer was actually using an Atlantis coil in the melo and said she liked it better.
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Maybe I got unlucky with the last two. I just cleaned out the Atlantis and looked at the coil. There's little black specks all over the inside and on top of the screen. I assume it's the ceramic material people've been complaining about? It's only a week old and used lightly. I used the first coil twice as long and didn't see any specs.
If eleaf's coils do ok I don't think I'm going back to any Aspire product even if they change to all cotton. You're not supposed to sell these on ebay so now I have a bunch of extra coils I'll never use. Oh well.
No, it's not...it's little pieces of burnt cotton, the layer that actually touches the coil is a strip of thin cotton, and it eventually burns.
That makes sense. I'm beginning to think these coils should be used at lower watts which I'll do from now on. I've found the ST does great at around 12-13w. Youtube reviewers are cranking them up to crazy levels.
Just be sure it's really going down to 12-13 watts. If your device doesn't have voltage step down, it's likely actually firing the 0.5 ohm coil somewhere between 21-25 watts. If you're talking about the 1.2 ohm coil, never mind.
Actually, if you're talking about the 1.2 ohm coil and using a device that doesn't have true voltage step down, the lowest it will fire is somewhere between 12-15 watts.
As a side note, I get the best life out of the original ST and Atlantis heads by ramping them up in wattage gradually (and of course, soaking the hell out of them before firing them the first time). I prefer to run them at the high end of their wattage range, but I'll spend several minutes working up to that.
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Just be sure it's really going down to 12-13 watts. If your device doesn't have voltage step down, it's likely actually firing the 0.5 ohm coil somewhere between 21-25 watts. If you're talking about the 1.2 ohm coil, never mind.
Actually, if you're talking about the 1.2 ohm coil and using a device that doesn't have true voltage step down, the lowest it will fire is somewhere between 12-15 watts.
As a side note, I get the best life out of the original ST and Atlantis heads by ramping them up in wattage gradually (and of course, soaking the hell out of them before firing them the first time). I prefer to run them at the high end of their wattage range, but I'll spend several minutes working up to that.
Yeah I meant the .5 ohm coil. I'm using a 30 watt istick for sub ohm coils currently. I just read that someone tested it and it won't go below 4 volts.
I tried my current Atlantis coil at the 4 volt reading on the istick,, 27 watts, and after 5 seconds I got that burnt taste. I then set it down to 2.7 volts, 12 watts, and didn't get the burnt taste.
So it seems to be going below 4 volts unless I'm not understanding something. Don't have anything to officially test it with.
Looks like that iStick 30w fires down as low as 2 volts. So, volts squared divided by resistance gives you wattage. That means you can actually go down to about 8 watts (2*2/0.5=8). So yeah, you're really running at 12 watts, most likely, if it does step down.
Which is way too freaking low a power setting for an Atlantis. If you've already smoked the head, you'll never get rid of that burnt taste at higher wattage, you're just masking it for now by barely providing any power to the coil. Try a new head, soak it, let it saturate, primer puff it several times, then start at around 20w and work your way up about half a watt every few puffs.
Which is way too freaking low a power setting for an Atlantis. If you've already smoked the head, you'll never get rid of that burnt taste at higher wattage, you're just masking it for now by barely providing any power to the coil. Try a new head, soak it, let it saturate, primer puff it several times, then start at around 20w and work your way up about half a watt every few puffs.
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The .5 ohm Melo coils arrived and were tested in the Atlantis
First impression is that the shell is almost identical to the Atlantis shells aside from a finer-tooth finger grip, and the four juice holes that absorb the liquid are lower. The threads are the same and the o-ring is in the same position. The hole position is definitely an improvement since it allows the juice to run lower in the tank while still being in contact with the holes. They're not obstructed by anything.
It also seems to absorb more liquid since the coil is a little smaller in diameter and more tightly wound, so it has more wicking material inside. After squirting some inside to prime it, I gave a few primer puffs. The liquid in the tank went down quite a bit, showing how much was being absorbed. It took a little longer than the Atlantis coils for the bubbles to stop when doing primer puffs.
After letting it sit 15 more minutes I finally fired it up at 20 watts. Great flavor, crazy vapor production. I appears to produce more vapor than the original coils. It's only been a couple hours but so far I'm impressed. I'll see if it's still going strong at the end of the day. If so, no more Aspire coils.
First impression is that the shell is almost identical to the Atlantis shells aside from a finer-tooth finger grip, and the four juice holes that absorb the liquid are lower. The threads are the same and the o-ring is in the same position. The hole position is definitely an improvement since it allows the juice to run lower in the tank while still being in contact with the holes. They're not obstructed by anything.
It also seems to absorb more liquid since the coil is a little smaller in diameter and more tightly wound, so it has more wicking material inside. After squirting some inside to prime it, I gave a few primer puffs. The liquid in the tank went down quite a bit, showing how much was being absorbed. It took a little longer than the Atlantis coils for the bubbles to stop when doing primer puffs.
After letting it sit 15 more minutes I finally fired it up at 20 watts. Great flavor, crazy vapor production. I appears to produce more vapor than the original coils. It's only been a couple hours but so far I'm impressed. I'll see if it's still going strong at the end of the day. If so, no more Aspire coils.
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After going through 4ml it's still vaping like a champ. So far I think it outperforms the Subtank OCC coils. Definitely more vapor. I'd have to see some reviews on a new Atlantis coil and a lower price to try it.
Like many of you I own an Atlantis (2 actually) and a subtank mini. I too have had very inconsistent Aspire coils. My first 10 coils averaged about 3 days lifespan each (15-25ml). My newest 5 pack (it may be the new OC) I am getting over a week of life, and I rotate between 2 heads each tank: one in the tank and the other gets a thorough soaking in near boiling water then 24-48 hours drying time. I love the wide open airflow of the Atlantis, and when I have a good consistent coil its fantastic.
I bought a ST mini because I liked the included rebuild deck and I really wanted to compare it to the Atlantis. The flavor is ever so slightly better than the Atlantis, but I don't care as much for the Kanger airflow adjustment... it whistles more than the Aspire. I also find that even at the same wattage and comparing the same juice in both the Atlantis and the Kanger, the ST runs much hotter. I have to turn the wattage down 5-10 W to match the temp on the Atlantis. I've toasted a few OCC coils by changing over to the ST after using the Atlantis at 25-30 W and forgetting to dial wattage down! Also that damn drip tip gets way too hot if you take a long lung hit, so I got a sweet pyrex tip. The OCC's are much easier to re-wick and rebuild than the Atlantis coils, if you want to do that.
I have no experience with the melo or it's coils, but when I find a steal on them I will try them.
If only I could fit the Kanger OCC in my Atlantis, then I'd have the perfect airflow with a long lasting cotton coil! But that wont work, so I'll wait for the current supply of non-cotton Atlantis coils to disappear and then get the new Aspire cottons and try them.
Happy Vapes Y'all!!
I bought a ST mini because I liked the included rebuild deck and I really wanted to compare it to the Atlantis. The flavor is ever so slightly better than the Atlantis, but I don't care as much for the Kanger airflow adjustment... it whistles more than the Aspire. I also find that even at the same wattage and comparing the same juice in both the Atlantis and the Kanger, the ST runs much hotter. I have to turn the wattage down 5-10 W to match the temp on the Atlantis. I've toasted a few OCC coils by changing over to the ST after using the Atlantis at 25-30 W and forgetting to dial wattage down! Also that damn drip tip gets way too hot if you take a long lung hit, so I got a sweet pyrex tip. The OCC's are much easier to re-wick and rebuild than the Atlantis coils, if you want to do that.
I have no experience with the melo or it's coils, but when I find a steal on them I will try them.
If only I could fit the Kanger OCC in my Atlantis, then I'd have the perfect airflow with a long lasting cotton coil! But that wont work, so I'll wait for the current supply of non-cotton Atlantis coils to disappear and then get the new Aspire cottons and try them.
Happy Vapes Y'all!!
I can't tell much difference in airflow between the ST and Atlantis. I have the Nano which looks about the same as the Mini as far as flow goes. I only use the biggest air hole and cut it off to the point where I like the flow. The only issue I have with the OCC coil is that it doesn't seem to wick as fast as the Melo if you chain vape. Take a couple big vapes and I usually have to cover the air hole and puff to make the bubbles come up. And yeah, that hot drip tip. Probably worse on the Nano due to the size. I ordered a longer tip that should be here today.
I think I'm set with tanks now. Atlantis/Melo combo for sub ohm, and Nano with 1.2 coils on a smaller mod.
I agree that the OCC wicks slower... I sometimes chainvape and I've burnt the coils after 2-3 consecutive lung hits and forgetting to prime. Mouth to lung isn't an issue for me. I think the OCC could benefit from slightly larger wick holes, but I vape 80%+ VG pretty exclusively.
I was thinking the OCC coils should have four holes. Not sure if that's possible with the current design without flooding. I imagine that or larger holes will be the "new and improved" coil so I'm not stocking up on too many right now. I searched a few forums and people are complaining about the wicking issue and coming up with "fixes" like pushing the cotton in and loosening up the tank. Shouldn't have to do that.
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They simply cant go to 4 holes using a horizontal coil design, it would flood!
Kanger also cant create a coil that works well with all VG/PG mixes, most likely they build them to work best with a 50/50 of 60/40 mix.
With thicker high VG juice you might try re-wicking new stock coils with a looser wick of Japanese cotton, I think some of my re-wicks are too tight with cotton. So I'm going to try a lil less and see! I vape 80% VG and up!
I'm using a Melo on my iStick 30W and also notice that at about 27W the flavor is much better. I'm still playing with it, as I'm new to these (previously just used my Aspire Nauti mini and the popping and crackling had me nervous LOL - such a newb)
I only have a Kanger Subtank Mini and I absolutely love it. I haven't had any issues with it in the month I have had it. It was a toss up between this and the Atlantis when I was searching, I hadn't yet heard of the MELO but I kept seeing a lot of negative complaints about the Atlantis coils. In the Atlantis's defense, aside from the coil inconsistencies, I have heard it is a great tank and becomes even better, even if marginally when using MELO coils with it. I actually haven't seen anything negative about MELO except for that some people seem a little nit picky in comparing it's airflow adapter to the MELO's airflow adapter. I can't say enough good things about the Kanger Subtank Mini and it's coils. There is definitely a very noticeable difference between the 0.5Ohm and 1.2Ohm coils and I prefer the 0.5Ohm coils by far. However, if I was going to choose between the Atlantis and the MELO, I would hands down pick the MELO over the Atlantis. It has better coils, it holds a little more liquid and it's cheaper, I also prefer the look of the MELO over the Atlantis, I have always found the raised lip where the drip tip plugs into ascetically unappealing in the Nautilus/Atlantis tanks, especially when trying to use your collection of drip tips on it. The MELO has a flat top like the Kanger Subtanks, so any drip tip you throw on it will look great, as long as it fits.
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