Aspire Nautilus has a Chromed Brass chimney.

[Guzz]

Fiberglass, if that filler indeed is made out of fiberglass as their initial lab report states, is only marginally better for inhalaltion than asbestos.

I just found this tutorial for rebuilding nautilus coils, and the picture is a bit disconcerting, really:

And Aspire coils are not easy to clean and impossible to dry burn.

So yes, I agree with you that's it's easy to overthink things and worry too much; OTOH, I'd rather use coils that are easy to open, inspect, clean and dry burn. Or build my own. I like clean coils and wicks.

That coil has been used with a juice that is excessively sweetened or dark coloring. I have a flavor that will do that on anyone's coil (even dripping). It's caramelized. Not much you can do about, but quit using that flavor or change out coils more frequently.

Sadly it's my favorite flavor that does that. I've finally decided today to stop using it and change to my second flavor for my ADV that won't gunk up my coils. With the price of the Atlantis coils I think it's in my best financial interest to do so. My secondary flavor I've run through over 60ml on one Atlantis coil and it's still going strong. But with my "gunky" flavor, I only got about 20 ml of juice usage on a new Atlantis coil (I pushed to 30 ml but it marginal at best).

FYI: I keep coils matched with my flavors. Change flavor, swap out coil and keep coil with flavor. Go back to flavor, put back in the matched coil.

 

[Guzz]

or do without aspire bvcs

It's a free market. You can do what you please! You aren't forced to use what you don't want to. There are so many products to choose from out there! Different designs, different hardware, different wicking material, different batteries, etc. the choice is yours as to what you want to do.

You can go back to the Aspire BDC's if you want to. They aren't going to stop making them, from what I've gathered. Contrary to what others have said.

 

[Racehorse]

It's a free market. You can do what you please!

They aren't going to stop making them, from what I've gathered. Contrary to what others have said.

Perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of this topic. And perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of a lot of topics here.

Topics of THIS SORT aren't about the free market, it's about vapers-helping-vapers.......and vapers taking things apart, exploring vaping technologies, etc.

If everyone was like you then we would not have discovered certain mods that were being sold not long ago that had ZERO venting. Thankfully, a vaper and reviewer got on it right away and showed some experiments (with air compressor) showing how there was no venting in the mod. The mod was recalled, and fixed.

See, despite that you believe "you can buy whatever you want and avoid the rest cuz it's a free market" --- there are conscientious people here who do NOT want any fellow vaper to purchase an unvented, dangerous mod and get their face blown off.

And, if somebody doesn't post about it, that could have very well happened.

There seemed to be some *worrisome* aspects to the Nautilus Mini and Nautilus as well as the Aspire Bottom Vertical Coils.

So please, don't make this into a *political* case or economics lesson .... that is not what posters were doing here, and this is not the appropriate topic in which to give your particular slant on free market economies.

 

[drunkenbatman]

Does anyone know the specific rules about proposing on the forum? Because I kind of love the post above me, and if I like it then I should put a ring on it.

More succinctly: ditto.

 

[Katya]

Perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of this topic. And perhaps you misunderstand the purpose of a lot of topics here.

Topics of THIS SORT aren't about the free market, it's about vapers-helping-vapers.......and vapers taking things apart, exploring vaping technologies, etc.

If everyone was like you then we would not have discovered certain mods that were being sold not long ago that had ZERO venting. Thankfully, a vaper and reviewer got on it right away and showed some experiments (with air compressor) showing how there was no venting in the mod. The mod was recalled, and fixed.

See, despite that you believe "you can buy whatever you want and avoid the rest cuz it's a free market" --- there are conscientious people here who do NOT want any fellow vaper to purchase an unvented, dangerous mod and get their face blown off.

And, if somebody doesn't post about it, that could have very well happened.

There seemed to be some *worrisome* aspects to the Nautilus Mini and Nautilus as well as the Aspire Bottom Vertical Coils.

So please, don't make this into a *political* case or economics lesson .... that is not what posters were doing here, and this is not the appropriate topic in which to give your particular slant on free market economies.

Thank you, Racehorse...

 

[Katya]

It's a free market. You can do what you please! You aren't forced to use what you don't want to. There are so many products to choose from out there! Different designs, different hardware, different wicking material, different batteries, etc. the choice is yours as to what you want to do.

My friend Tibs is very well aware of the fact that it is a free market. Besides, she's been vaping for 5 years.

Please read Racehorse's post.

 

[Racehorse]

I was chatting with the owner of WorldOfVape, extremely friendly guy, his take on this whole plated brass chimney thing is that it's become an overblown internet meme and is not nearly as big a concern as people are making it out to be

That is one point of view.

If he is not a scientist, or even a materials expert, then his statement is no different than any other you read on forums......I respect all opinions, and the right for people to have them. But that does not turn an opinion into verifiable truth.

I would have to know his entire background before I knew whether or not to give credence/credibility to his *opinion*.

Everyone has to decide what the perceived and/or proven risks are, and everyone has to decide which ones they are willing to take.

Dismissing out of hand, anybody's concerns as a "meme" doesn't really work for me. I need more to go on.

 

[jb0nez]

And how many scientists or materials experts have been posting on this thread? I see wild speculation about the dangers of this chromed chimney, but no referenced facts. I need more to go on.
Your point is quite apt... This thread is full of opinions. One more to add to the stack.

That is one point of view.

If he is not a scientist, or even a materials expert, then his statement is no different than any other you read on forums......I respect all opinions, and the right for people to have them. But that does not turn an opinion into verifiable truth.

I would have to know his entire background before I knew whether or not to give credence/credibility to his *opinion*.

Everyone has to decide what the perceived and/or proven risks are, and everyone has to decide which ones they are willing to take.

Dismissing out of hand, anybody's concerns as a "meme" doesn't really work for me. I need more to go on.

 

[Katya]

I need more to go on.

Then look it up. Ask an expert. Help us figure it out.

That's what this forum is all about.

This industry is not regulated. We have to figure it all out by ourselves. It's a process. Nobody knows for sure what is and what isn't safe when it comes to vaping. Thank God we have researchers like Dr. Farsalinos who just completed a study about diacetyl in eliquids and is now looking into possible dangers of high temperature vaping, so in vogue nowadays. But we were first warned about potential dangers of diacetyl and other diketones by our own resident chemists (Kurt and DVap.) When a certain nicotine vendor started selling nicotine base that was much more potent than is should have been, we sent samples to Kurt for testing and he confirmed that there was a problem. The bad batch was recalled and the vendor learned a very important lesson. We have modders who alerted us about dangers of unvented mods. We have battery experts who tell us which batteries and chargers are safe to use and which should be avoided.

Like I said earlier, I'm not overly concerned about the chromed brass in our gear--I don't know enough on the subject. But I know that brass can contain lead, and that verdigris is a poison. I'm much more concerned about fiberglass in Aspire coils and I'm grateful to those members who brought my attention to it. The more I read on the subject, the more concerned I am, and so I decided that I won't be using those coils. Other vapers continue to use them--it's their choice. I just want information. People get angry when they are lied to. Aspire lied about the chimney--initially, and still has not come clean about the wicking material they are using in their coils--and we've been asking since September 2014.

ETA: Here's the latest official statement from Aspire (from Feb. 2) on the subject of their BVC coils.

Aspire Support: •View topic - Organic Cotton Coils for the Atlantis

"Dear Customer,
For the details about our product,please refer to:Aspire Support: •View topic - Aspire official statement on Atlantis coils material
Doubts and fears are due to the lack of cognition. Due to the unfamiliar and unknown on the ceramic fiber used in Atlantis atomizer, Aspire R&D team has been researching to use the organic cotton which is widely accepted by people instead of our present material on the premise of maintaining the optimal performance and stability of our products to meet customers attention and requirements.
If any information,our marketing department will post on our website,please pay attention to our website.
Have a nice day!"

 

[tiburonfirst]

lol - so they have no idea what they were using? and still don't know? but sold it anyhow?

i shall do without aspire

 

[Katya]

lol - so they have no idea what they were using? and still don't know? but sold it anyhow?

i shall do without aspire

Lack of cognition is a bad thing.

 

[tiburonfirst]

Lack of cognition is a bad thing.

at least the r&d team is researching organic cotton now!

 

[Racehorse]

What about the K1?

Aspire - Aspire K1 Glassomizer

Drip tip is SS, I see nothing about what chamber, etc. is made of. I like this size, why I'm asking.

 

[WickedWicks]

What about the chimneys of the t-sleeve and hollowed-out replacement tanks? And what are the coil heads made of?

Sorry if this has been answered before.

 

[brickman7]

When I read "unvented mod", I was hitting my Innokin MVP 20W and started looking it over and I didn't see a battery vent anywhere on the thing. Is this device safe? I can't get to my Smok xPro m65 and I can't recall if it is vented or not. Are these vents absolutely essential for my safety? I never thought about it and I know what assuming does. Could someone enlighten me on this subject? I've learned a lot in my short 57 years, but I can damn sure learn a lot more! I'm definitely not too dumb to ask!!

Thanks!

 

[10x sugar]

On the MVP's the charging ports on the bottom act as the vent holes.

I can't recall ever hearing of an MVP venting although anything is possible.

The MVP is a solid, quality, device with a long track record (for the vaping industry that is).

 

[Manycats]

I have my Aspire Nautilus for about a year. Likewise, I would like to throw mine in the trash. It has been so finicky and problematic for me. It was working fine until I had to add e-juice. It hasn't worked since. It does seem to go through a lot of coils. Can anyone help?

 

[tiburonfirst]

i don't think this thread will get you any answers but there should be plenty addressing possible performance problems with the nautilus